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18th club, whose next?

The Great Dane

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Brisbane Tigers are in the discussion because they have $135m worth of assets, a high performance training centre and a catchment that extends from Bulimba to Yarrabilba.
Easts' desperate attempts to grab onto any passer-by's coattails isn't the same as being in 'discussion'.

Nobody serious is talking about another Brisbane side at the moment. Nobody cares about their assets. Any club that wants access to "their" catchment can get it without it being necessary to enter a merger with the Tigers.
 

Perth Red

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No they couldn't, because they don't have reciprocal rights deals, or whatever you'd call this, with any of the Sydney sides, and there's no incentive for the Roosters, Rabbitohs, or any other Sydney side to give them to you when they would benefit more from simply selling those tickets directly to Bears away supporters themselves. You might be able to work something out if you sweetened the deal in some way, but that'd likely defeat the purpose from Perth/Bears point of view.

Giving tickets to "Sydney" members for games in Perth is an even stupider idea. The overwhelming majority would just go unused, and those are seats you could potentially be selling to people who might, you know, actually intend to attend the game. On the other side of that coin you say you'd travel yearly for a game in Sydney, and good for you, but I doubt that's representative of the average fan in Perth. Nor should they have to travel to Sydney for what is ostensibly a Perth/WA side's home game in the first place.

The Bears don't care about games at Allianz either. They want them at NSO, and they've been very clear that they'd ideally host more than one a season there. Sure they might, stress might, accept one match a NSO initially, but there'd inevitably be constant power struggles for more behind the scenes.

Finally, are you really so desperate that you'd willing allow the Bears to bend Perth over and have their way with you like that? Because that's just pitiful!

I'd go without forever rather than be used like that, and cease supporting the sport out of spite if they tried to force it upon me.
You clearly haven’t been following my position on this, I suggest you go back and catch up!

and we’ve seen ticket rights agreements like this in the past, not breaking any new ground with that idea. The game in perth thing is just a little bonus for those who’d want a weekend away and appeases the wa govt tourism dept. again it can be on a book your seat in advance basis so you aren’t leaving 5k seats empty just in case. You seem to just want to be negative as you don’t like the bears tbh.
 
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Easts' desperate attempts to grab onto any passer-by's coattails isn't the same as being in 'discussion'.

Nobody serious is talking about another Brisbane side at the moment. Nobody cares about their assets. Any club that wants access to "their" catchment can get it without it being necessary to enter a merger with the Tigers.

You don't consider Simon Fordham and Ben Ikin as "serious"?

They're the Head of Strategy for Wide World of Sport and the CEO of the Queensland Rugby League.

“We’re really committed to working with the NRL in growing the competition, and Queensland is a big part of that. We think there’s room for another team here in Queensland, and the Dolphins have been the perfect example.

“The more games we can get played featuring Queensland teams in Southeast Queensland, the better. The engagement in rugby league here is just next level, and the energy of the crowds has a material impact on the quality of the broadcasts that we make. It helps create atmosphere, it makes the commentary team rise, it makes the production team rise.”


Head of Strategy, Wide World of Sport, Simon Fordham


The Brisbane Tigers' NRL bid has received a huge boost with newly minted Queensland Rugby League CEO Ben Ikin declaring his organisation is behind their quest to become the competition's 18th team.

 

Wb1234

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Easts' desperate attempts to grab onto any passer-by's coattails isn't the same as being in 'discussion'.

Nobody serious is talking about another Brisbane side at the moment. Nobody cares about their assets. Any club that wants access to "their" catchment can get it without it being necessary to enter a merger with the Tigers.
Politis gould aren’t serious ?

channel nine and foxsports ?
 

MugaB

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haha ben ikin who just got pushed out of the broncos
And is suing PVL, all coz they want more cut of mula for grasroots that they aren't really investing in, and cutting out teams before they even exist aka Clydesdales, cows reserve, tits reserve. The same media mogul that poured a whole heap of shit on every player and person involved with RL with his mate the exonerated choker paul k..unt on the news owned nrl360, who has the regular bunch of tits of crawls, hooper and the ol buzzard, to really push their clickbait agenda.. that same dumb ikin
 

The Great Dane

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You clearly haven’t been following my position on this, I suggest you go back and catch up!

and we’ve seen ticket rights agreements like this in the past, not breaking any new ground with that idea. The game in perth thing is just a little bonus for those who’d want a weekend away and appeases the wa govt tourism dept. again it can be on a book your seat in advance basis so you aren’t leaving 5k seats empty just in case. You seem to just want to be negative as you don’t like the bears tbh.
There's never been a 'ticket rights agreement' anything like what you're proposing in the past. There's been short term, equitable, reciprocal rights deals between some clubs, and discounted ticket offers for other clubs members, but never, ever, has there been a deal that gave the right to one club to sell tickets to another's home games as part of a membership package. That's something else, an unrealistic, total bull shit fantasy, something else.

And I'm not being "negative", I'm just being realistic.

You're the one with the problem, you've become so desperate for an NRL side in Perth that you've abandoned all standards and stopped caring about the broader consequences. It's pitiful and gross.
 
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Wb1234

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There's never been a 'ticket rights agreement' anything like what you're proposing in the past. There's been short term, equitable, reciprocal rights deals between some clubs, and discounted ticket offers for other clubs members, but never, ever, has there been a deal that gave the right to one club to sell tickets to another's home games as part of a membership package. That's something else, an unrealistic, total bull shit fantasy, something else.

And I'm not being "negative", I'm just being realistic.

You're the one with the problem, you've become so desperate for an NRL side in Perth that you've abandoned all standards and stop caring about the broader consequences. It's pitiful and gross.
This is why I asked Perth red the question

at one time when south’s dragons parra and dogs shared homebush then they had a deal to let season ticket holders from those other clubs in for free when they visited
 

The Great Dane

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You don't consider Simon Fordham and Ben Ikin as "serious"?
Are you serious?
Politis gould aren’t serious ?

channel nine and foxsports ?
Politis was talking about a team in every state last time I heard him talk.

Besides, he, Gould, the broadcasters, all put their agenda and interests first, and have a massive blind spot when it comes to anything beyond the boarders of Sydney or that might be appealing to anybody under 50.

In other words, no, I don't take Politis particularly seriously on this issue, and I certainly don't take Gould, the broadcasters, or Ikin and Fordham (f**king lol) seriously at all.
 

The Great Dane

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This is why I asked Perth red the question

at one time when south’s dragons parra and dogs shared homebush then they had a deal to let season ticket holders from those other clubs in for free when they visited
Yeah, that'd be one of those 'short term, equitable, reciprocal rights deals between some clubs' I was talking about.
 

Wb1234

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Are you serious?

Politis was talking about a team in every state last time I heard him talk.

Besides, he, Gould, the broadcasters, all put their agenda and interests first, and have a massive blind spot when comes to anything outside of Sydney.

In other words, no, I don't take Politis particularly seriously on this issue, and I certainly don't take Gould, the broadcasters, or Ikin and Fordham (f**king lol) seriously at all.
So only you are the serious one lmao
 

The Great Dane

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So only you are the serious one lmao
I only take people who are reasonably objective and informed seriously.

None of the afore mentioned are objective, only a couple could be considered genuinely informed, and Ikin and the broadcasters and their employees have serious conflicts of interest.
 

Wb1234

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I only take people who are reasonably objective and informed seriously.

None of the afore mentioned are objective, only a couple could be considered genuinely informed, and Ikin and the broadcasters and their employees have serious conflicts of interest.
So when a broadcaster says they prefer another brisbane team we should ignore it because it’s for their own selfish interests

Got it

and how do people in Sydney like gould or polits benefit by more qld teams
 
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Are you serious?

Politis was talking about a team in every state last time I heard him talk.

Besides, he, Gould, the broadcasters, all put their agenda and interests first, and have a massive blind spot when it comes to anything beyond the boarders of Sydney or that might be appealing to anybody under 50.

In other words, no, I don't take Politis particularly seriously on this issue, and I certainly don't take Gould, the broadcasters, or Ikin and Fordham (f**king lol) seriously at all.

Whether you take them seriously or not is irrelevant.

The QRL gets to vote on issues such as expansion when they're brought before the ARLC. The QRL wants the Brisbane Tigers to be the 18th team.

You and mongoose have zero voting rights. That means the opinion of Ben Ikin and the QRL is worth more than yours.

The broadcasters have more influence over the game than you and I. Simon Fordham is the Head of Strategy for WWOS. He said Ch9 want another team in Brisbane.

Ch9 and QRL will have more influence over expansion than anyone on this board.. That means you were wrong when you said "no one serious" is pushing for a third Brisbane team.
 

mongoose

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So when a broadcaster says they prefer another brisbane team we should ignore it because it’s for their own selfish interests

Got it

and how do people in Sydney like gould or polits benefit by more qld teams
Did they actually say they prefer another Brisbane team? Didn't Fordham say something like 'we think there's room for another QLD team'? That isn't the same as "we think Brisbane 3 should be next!"
 

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