18th club, whose next?

[Wb1234]

Does it matter? In the world of NRL they rank higher than most clubs whove had a 50-100 year head start on them.

I could ask why Sydney NRl clubs struggle to crack 20k, some 15k, when Sydney, Melbourne and Perth AFL clubs can crack 30-40k? Itd be just as irrelevant.

Cause there’s nothing to do in Melbourne

 

[Perth Red]

Cause there’s nothing to do in Melbourne

and swans? and perth teams? Nothing to do there either?
Its the dumbest retort to attendance debate ever by the way. Almost as dumb as AFL is better watched at the the ground nonsense.

 

[Jamberoo]

Which is why the ARLC has been reluctant to expand into Perth. The Storm were parachuted to the top of the NRL ladder from day one by News Ltd. There's nothing more that the NRL/ARLC could have done to rally the Melbourne public behind the Storm.

@Perth Red blames everything on the ARLC for not spending $3m on grassroots development, but that's a bullshit copout excuse and he knows it. Fans gravitate towards successful teams. People don't give a f**k about how many development officers are in the region. The average Broncos fan wouldn't know about development officers in Brisbane.

No club in Australian sport has been more successful than the Storm since 1998. The fact it has taken them so long to grow their fanbase, despite having everything rigged in their favour, proves it is very difficult to grow a game in a saturated market that has a cultish following for a rival competitor. All of the shit Perth Red says won't change the fact rugby league has virtually no presence in the inner suburbs of Melbourne and is only appealing to the city's Polynesian residents.

It's foolish for people to think Perth will succeed where Melbourne has failed. The game might have a larger footprint in Perth than Melbourne, but it's still a rusted on fumbleball market with two well established AwFuL. The Perth media will always provide more coverage to the Eagles and Dockers. Local businesses will throw more money at the Eagles and Dockers. The average person in Perth will never place an RL team ahead of the Eagles or Dockers.

93k packed the MCG for Origin in 1994. About one-tenth of that followed the Storm in their first 10 seasons.



The only reason Melbourne has these events is because Jeff Kennett paid a fortune for them. He did it to draw tourists to Melbourne and get one over Sydney. I fail to see how a government using major sporting events to draw money from tourism makes it the sports capial of the world. The fact it threw the Commonwealth Games under the bus has really hurt their claim to that title.

Don’t disagree with you about Storm, but even though they might never be as big as the smallest AFL team, does not mean that they are not worthwhile in the NRL. Perth is just under half the size of Melbourne but it will gain more traction there as there is less competition.

And the Grand Prix is the only event Kennett paid for - it was stolen from Adelaide. We already had the Australian Open, Melbourne Cup, etc. Those events would not be as successful in Sydney. Melbourne’s events are all near the CBD and we have a very good rail and road system to service these events. As we are always reminded when talking about the relatively small size of NRL crowds - Sydneysiders don’t like to travel across town.

Brisbane should use the Olympics to try to push themselves well clear of Perth and Adelaide as the third market for major sporting and cultural events. But the pushback on building new infrastructure indicates that perhaps they don’t want it. You would never have anyone protesting in Melbourne about building or upgrading stadia.

 

[Wb1234]

and swans? and perth teams? Nothing to do there either?
Its the dumbest retort to attendance debate ever by the way. Almost as dumb as AFL is better watched at the the ground nonsense.

Afl is better watched nowhere

it’s an abomination

the people who follow it are cultists

wait till they play in america and see what they say about it

 

[Jamberoo]

and swans? and perth teams? Nothing to do there either?
Its the dumbest retort to attendance debate ever by the way. Almost as dumb as AFL is better watched at the the ground nonsense.

Maybe in summer

Cause there’s nothing to do in Melbourne

The only thing Sydney has over Melbourne for things to do is surf beaches. No doubt frequented by many potential RL fans over winter instead of going to the footy.

 

[Wb1234]

Maybe in summer

The only thing Sydney has over Melbourne for things to do is surf beaches. No doubt frequented by many potential RL fans over winter instead of going to the footy.

Weather
Home of rugby league
Pacific highway out of Melbourne
Harbour

we even have parra river to match the Yarra

 

[Maximus]

Where do the storm rank in terms of attendances in Melbourne ?

the sporting capital of the world

hahaha

Umm if they are highly ranked in NRL, but still low ranked in Melbourne as a whole, wouldn't that indicate that attendances in Melbourne as a whole are quite high?

 

[mongoose]

Umm if they are highly ranked in NRL, but still low ranked in Melbourne as a whole, wouldn't that indicate that attendances in Melbourne as a whole are quite high?

yeah he punched himself in the balls with that comment...

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

The Storm have 9 very well supported AFL clubs to compete with. The Lions have 2 NRL clubs and a Super Rugby club to compete with...

If you're going to make comments like this then don't whinge when people say Brisbane 3 will harm the Lions. You're saying the Storm have more competition to contend with, yet whenever anyone says we should create more competition for the Lions you and the Soapdodger say it hasn't stopped the Swans. Neither of you are consistent with your logic.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Storm top 5 in: attendances, memberships, social media, Roy Morgan polls for supporter base, tv audience.

Yeh Storm have a real problem in fanbase numbers lol Melbourne such a waste of time.

Donkey is on crack, his irrational hatred of the NRL's ONLY successful expansion team because they are based in a city he has an irrational hatred of is really quite sad for a so called RL fan.

You're the f**khead who ridiculed the Broncos' crowds, despite them being bigger than every other rugby league club in the world!

You constantly bring up the attendances for the Swans and Eagles.

You didn't even know that the Knights won a premiership in 2001 and 1997. Nor did you know the Cowboys have made three grand finals.

You're not a rugby league fan. You're a special kind of stupid and a stereotypical whinging Pom.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Does it matter? In the world of NRL they rank higher than most clubs whove had a 50-100 year head start on them.

I could ask why Sydney NRl clubs struggle to crack 20k, some 15k, when Sydney, Melbourne and Perth AFL clubs can crack 30-40k? Itd be just as irrelevant.

You've been bragging about the Swans, Lions and Eagles for years, but crack the shits when anyone mentions the Storm's poor crowds.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Don’t disagree with you about Storm, but even though they might never be as big as the smallest AFL team, does not mean that they are not worthwhile in the NRL. Perth is just under half the size of Melbourne but it will gain more traction there as there is less competition.

And the Grand Prix is the only event Kennett paid for - it was stolen from Adelaide. We already had the Australian Open, Melbourne Cup, etc. Those events would not be as successful in Sydney. Melbourne’s events are all near the CBD and we have a very good rail and road system to service these events. As we are always reminded when talking about the relatively small size of NRL crowds - Sydneysiders don’t like to travel across town.

Brisbane should use the Olympics to try to push themselves well clear of Perth and Adelaide as the third market for major sporting and cultural events. But the pushback on building new infrastructure indicates that perhaps they don’t want it. You would never have anyone protesting in Melbourne about building or upgrading stadia.

I'm disappointed with the Queensland Gov for its poor handling of the Olympics.

The Brisbane bid was based on not having to build much infrastructure.

Palaszczuk undermined the bid by sucking up to fumbleball with the unnecessary Gabba rebuild.

The F1 was better in Adelaide.

The Australian Open should be indoors in Brisbane. The hot dry winds from the desert that smother Melbourne in January is horrible for a tennis tournament. Temperatures regularly reach 40 degrees.

 

[Perth Red]

You've been bragging about the Swans, Lions and Eagles for years, but crack the shits when anyone mentions the Storm's poor crowds.

Storms crowds, in context of NRL, are not poor. Its a shame that NRL doesnt attract more fans but it is what it is. If it was as popular for attendances as AFL then Broncos would avg 45k and Storm 30k, but it isnt. Storm more than pull their weight when it comes to supporter base.

 

[Perth Red]

I'm disappointed with the Queensland Gov for its poor handling of the Olympics.

The Brisbane bid was based on not having to build much infrastructure.

Palaszczuk undermined the bid by sucking up to fumbleball with the unnecessary Gabba rebuild.

The F1 was better in Adelaide.

The Australian Open should be indoors in Brisbane. The hot dry winds from the desert that smother Melbourne in January is horrible for a tennis tournament. Temperatures regularly reach 40 degrees.

Brisbane did a sht job hosting the RLWC final. I hope they can do a better job with the Olympics.

 

[Perth Red]

If you're going to make comments like this then don't whinge when people say Brisbane 3 will harm the Lions. You're saying the Storm have more competition to contend with, yet whenever anyone says we should create more competition for the Lions you and the Soapdodger say it hasn't stopped the Swans. Neither of you are consistent with your logic.

Lions crowd avg was highest last year than for over a decade, so much for the Dolphins taking their fans!
Didn't lions get more at the weekend than the Dolphins got?
Hmm Brisbane3 clearly not worth the effort if AFL impact is your motivation.

 

[Canard]

I'm disappointed with the Queensland Gov for its poor handling of the Olympics.

The Brisbane bid was based on not having to build much infrastructure.

Palaszczuk undermined the bid by sucking up to fumbleball with the unnecessary Gabba rebuild.

The F1 was better in Adelaide.

The Australian Open should be indoors in Brisbane. The hot dry winds from the desert that smother Melbourne in January is horrible for a tennis tournament. Temperatures regularly reach 40 degrees.

There are three indoor courts at Melbourne Park, you pelican.

No Grand Slam in the world can match it.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Storms crowds, in context of NRL, are not poor. Its a shame that NRL doesnt attract more fans but it is what it is. If it was as popular for attendances as AFL then Broncos would avg 45k and Storm 30k, but it isnt. Storm more than pull their weight when it comes to supporter base.

You use crowds to beat down on rugby league in Brisbane and Sydney whenever you want to push your pro-Perth agenda. If you want to talk about poor crowds then look at Hull KR.

Storm's attendances are shit for a team that's been camped inside the top 4 over the bulk of their existence. That's an inconvenient fact you choose to skirt around.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Brisbane did a sht job hosting the RLWC final. I hope they can do a better job with the Olympics.

It didn't help that Australia was playing a pub team from England.

 

[Canard]

Storm's attendances are shit for a team that's been camped inside the top 4 over the bulk of their existence. That's an inconvenient fact you choose to skirt around.

Not in comparison to literally every team in the NRL whose name doesn't rhyme with Noncos.

 

[Perth Red]

It didn't help that Australia was playing a pub team from England.

Bit of a sht city really, I can see why they dont get many sports events in Brisbane. When they do get one they cant even build a suitable stadium for it lol.