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18th club, whose next?

Jamberoo

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Brisbane Broncos draw bigger crowds than the Brisbane Lions.

Brisbane Lions are an AwFuL club.

West Coast Eagles don't draw that much more than the Broncos, FWIW. Last year the Eagles drew 42,251 to their games.


Broncos drew 33k, despite having to shift games to the lowly Gabba due to the soccer.


In what universe is an average of 33k not a big crowd?

It's more than four times larger than the tiny crowds Hull KR draw at their shithole ground.



The Titans have been a disaster on the field for the bulk of their history.

You would have to be dumb to not see why I'm singling out the Storm. It's the only RL club in the world that was parachuted to the top of its respective league by the game's stakeholder so that it enjoyed sustained on field success. The club's fanbase has never had a bad season that made them question their support. Despite this, their attendances have been horrible in Australia's second largest city until the last few years.

The Melbourne Victory A-League team were generating larger crowds than the Melbourne Storm until COVID-19!

When the Lions went on a golden run 20 years ago they pulled 30k+ fans through the gate in a city half size of Melbourne. It proves Melbourne isn't a sports mad city that gets behind all of its teams. The fact News Ltd rigged the competition to keep the Storm on top proves how little faith they had in the Melbourne public supporting a rugby league team. The fact News Ltd made the ARLC fund an extra $30m into the Storm for five years after selling the club proves they know it is built on a very shaky foundation that will collapse when the shit hits the fan. There's no way News Ltd would have invested that much in the club if it thought there was a large fanbase willing to support them through thick and thin.

In 2010 the Storm fans threw a tantrum because they didn't get to play finals.

What happens when they get the spoon?
Please explain how the Lions getting big crowds 20 years ago proves that Melbourne is not a sports mad city?
 
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Please explain how the Lions getting big crowds 20 years ago proves that Melbourne is not a sports mad city?
If Lions can draw 30k in a city that doesn't give a f**k about fumbleball then Storm should be pulling 45k at Docklands. Brisbane's population is half the size of Melbourne and was smaller 20 years ago.

Victorians smugly gloat about Melbourne being the "sports capital of the world". If they're going to talk the talk then they need to walk the walk.

It would help if Melbourne produced athletes that excel in international competition. It's been 40 years since they produced tennis player that won a grand slam. They host the F1 but don't have any decent drivers. Suck at swimming. Haven't had a track star in decades.
 
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Canard

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If Lions can draw 30k in a city that doesn't give a f**k about fumbleball then Storm should be pulling 45k at Docklands. Brisbane's population is half the size of Melbourne and was smaller 20 years ago.

Victorians smugly gloat about Melbourne being the "sports capital of the world". If they're going to talk the talk then they need to walk the walk.

It would help if Melbourne produced athletes that excel in international competition. It's been 40 years since they produced tennis player that won a grand slam. They host the F1 but don't have any decent drivers. Suck at swimming. Haven't had a track star in decades.
Deranged lunatic ramblings
 

Jamberoo

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If Lions can draw 30k in a city that doesn't give a f**k about fumbleball then Storm should be pulling 45k at Docklands. Brisbane's population is half the size of Melbourne and was smaller 20 years ago.

Victorians smugly gloat about Melbourne being the "sports capital of the world". If they're going to talk the talk then they need to walk the walk.

It would help if Melbourne produced athletes that excel in international competition. It's been 40 years since they produced tennis player that won a grand slam. They host the F1 but don't have any decent drivers. Suck at swimming. Haven't had a track star in decades.
I agree with you - AFL is Brisbane is much, much bigger than NRL in Melbourne. Still, I am not sure that Melbourne’s lack of interest in RL is indicative of anything other than a lack of interest in RL.

In regards to your other points:
- swimming is not really a thing here compared to Queensland. Too cold.
- AFL is all consuming in the southern states - reckon both Pat Cash and Leyton Hewitt would rather have been AFL players than tennis champions.
- Basketball is the only sport that we play more than AFL.

When Melbourne is spoken of as the ‘Sports Capital of the World’, is is due to the massive sporting events the city hosts, not the achievements of our athletes. You know that
 
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I agree with you - AFL is Brisbane is much, much bigger than NRL in Melbourne. Still, I am not sure that Melbourne’s lack of interest in RL is indicative of anything other than a lack of interest in RL.

Which is why the ARLC has been reluctant to expand into Perth. The Storm were parachuted to the top of the NRL ladder from day one by News Ltd. There's nothing more that the NRL/ARLC could have done to rally the Melbourne public behind the Storm.

@Perth Red blames everything on the ARLC for not spending $3m on grassroots development, but that's a bullshit copout excuse and he knows it. Fans gravitate towards successful teams. People don't give a f**k about how many development officers are in the region. The average Broncos fan wouldn't know about development officers in Brisbane.

No club in Australian sport has been more successful than the Storm since 1998. The fact it has taken them so long to grow their fanbase, despite having everything rigged in their favour, proves it is very difficult to grow a game in a saturated market that has a cultish following for a rival competitor. All of the shit Perth Red says won't change the fact rugby league has virtually no presence in the inner suburbs of Melbourne and is only appealing to the city's Polynesian residents.

It's foolish for people to think Perth will succeed where Melbourne has failed. The game might have a larger footprint in Perth than Melbourne, but it's still a rusted on fumbleball market with two well established AwFuL. The Perth media will always provide more coverage to the Eagles and Dockers. Local businesses will throw more money at the Eagles and Dockers. The average person in Perth will never place an RL team ahead of the Eagles or Dockers.

93k packed the MCG for Origin in 1994. About one-tenth of that followed the Storm in their first 10 seasons.

In regards to your other points:
- swimming is not really a thing here compared to Queensland. Too cold.
- AFL is all consuming in the southern states - reckon both Pat Cash and Leyton Hewitt would rather have been AFL players than tennis champions.
- Basketball is the only sport that we play more than AFL.

When Melbourne is spoken of as the ‘Sports Capital of the World’, is is due to the massive sporting events the city hosts, not the achievements of our athletes. You know that

The only reason Melbourne has these events is because Jeff Kennett paid a fortune for them. He did it to draw tourists to Melbourne and get one over Sydney. I fail to see how a government using major sporting events to draw money from tourism makes it the sports capial of the world. The fact it threw the Commonwealth Games under the bus has really hurt their claim to that title.
 

Canard

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This is likely why Melbourne is considered a sports town

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The Broncos would be just below Hawthorn, on that list.

And the Dolphins "the so called second biggest RL club in the world" are nowhere.

Even, yesterday playing there biggest drawing club outside the Broncos, they only could get low 30,000s.
 

mongoose

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If Lions can draw 30k in a city that doesn't give a f**k about fumbleball then Storm should be pulling 45k at Docklands. Brisbane's population is half the size of Melbourne and was smaller 20 years ago.

Victorians smugly gloat about Melbourne being the "sports capital of the world". If they're going to talk the talk then they need to walk the walk.

It would help if Melbourne produced athletes that excel in international competition. It's been 40 years since they produced tennis player that won a grand slam. They host the F1 but don't have any decent drivers. Suck at swimming. Haven't had a track star in decades.
f**k you're an angry little merkin lol
 

mongoose

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I agree with you - AFL is Brisbane is much, much bigger than NRL in Melbourne. Still, I am not sure that Melbourne’s lack of interest in RL is indicative of anything other than a lack of interest in RL.

In regards to your other points:
- swimming is not really a thing here compared to Queensland. Too cold.
- AFL is all consuming in the southern states - reckon both Pat Cash and Leyton Hewitt would rather have been AFL players than tennis champions.
- Basketball is the only sport that we play more than AFL.

When Melbourne is spoken of as the ‘Sports Capital of the World’, is is due to the massive sporting events the city hosts, not the achievements of our athletes. You know that
The Storm have 9 very well supported AFL clubs to compete with. The Lions have 2 NRL clubs and a Super Rugby club to compete with...
 

Perth Red

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Storm top 5 in: attendances, memberships, social media, Roy Morgan polls for supporter base, tv audience.

Yeh Storm have a real problem in fanbase numbers lol Melbourne such a waste of time.

Donkey is on crack, his irrational hatred of the NRL's ONLY successful expansion team because they are based in a city he has an irrational hatred of is really quite sad for a so called RL fan.
 

Wb1234

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Storm top 5 in: attendances, memberships, social media, Roy Morgan polls for supporter base, tv audience.

Yeh Storm have a real problem in fanbase numbers lol Melbourne such a waste of time.

Donkey is on crack, his irrational hatred of the NRL's ONLY successful expansion team because they are based in a city he has an irrational hatred of is really quite sad for a so called RL fan.
Where do the storm rank in terms of attendances in Melbourne ?

the sporting capital of the world

hahaha
 

Perth Red

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Where do the storm rank in terms of attendances in Melbourne ?

the sporting capital of the world

hahaha
Does it matter? In the world of NRL they rank higher than most clubs whove had a 50-100 year head start on them.

I could ask why Sydney NRl clubs struggle to crack 20k, some 15k, when Sydney, Melbourne and Perth AFL clubs can crack 30-40k? Itd be just as irrelevant.
 

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