18th club, whose next?

[Perth Red]

Who comes in as Team 20?

Perth or Adelaide you'd think

Nrl or afl?
nrl: I think Perths inclusion and in what order is very determina t on what the wa govt is offering. If it isnsubstantial, and Vlandys has made comment they are “100% behind a club “ then they will either come in club 18 or 19 depending on decision on png. They won’t want to risk that WA funding by waiting 10 years. If it’s not substantial then I do t think we’ll see club 19 or 20 thought about for many many years to come.


sadly Adelaide is too far for a small minded and short sighted game like ours, I mean why would you want the countries 5th biggest city in the comp?

afl: I think it will likely be canberra tbh. Bit like brisabne 3 for nrl a perth 3 club would probably be bigger but they have a national strategy And either canberra or Darwin achieves that strategy better than another club in perth or Adelaide that isnt needed.we have to remember how coined they are about to become. They could literally fully fund two new clubs fully themselves and barely notice with the revenue they will generate from 2025 onwards and having paid off marvel and raking the profits from that assett.

 

[Colk]

I think Perths inclusion and in what order is very determina t on what the wa govt is offering. If it isnsubstantial, and Vlandys has made comment they are “100% behind a club “ then they will either come in club 18 or 19 depending on decision on png. They won’t want to risk that WA funding by waiting 10 years. If it’s not substantial then I do t think we’ll see club 19 or 20 thought about for many many years to come.


sadly Adelaide is too far for a small minded and short sighted game like ours, I mean why would you want the countries 5th biggest city in the comp?

He is talking about fumbleball,

 

[Gobsmacked]

IF, and I can’t see it for Probably 15-20 years if ever, then it would play at optus be based in northern suburbs and have some generic name. Problem with the theory of third club here is dockers still have growing to do and eagles fanbase is very strong in the northern suburbs. There simply isn’t the need for a third club. Bit like brisbane and nrl.

Obviously you don't know Brisbane, it's much bigger than Perth and that's without Ipswich, Logan and Northern suburbs. I bet you didn't realise that Redcliffe isn't even actually part of Brisbane and it's measured population..
I consider it Brisbane along with Ipswich ect, the same as Parramatta is Sydney.
But Brisbane could easily host 4 successful clubs- easily. And I'm not advocating for it, the Dolphins deserve 10 to 20 years without another rival.
And I'd probably be comfortable with 2 super clubs to be fair.
But it will likely have a 3rd at some point for sure.

 

[Canard]

That is fine for the figure but that Michelle Bishop who has no skin in the game anymore. Also said they were in.

Reporters always want to be the first to break a story, often they jump the gun and get it wrong in doing.

Remember she said the announcement was "soon" and the team would be playing in 2025.

 

[Perth Red]

Obviously you don't know Brisbane, it's much bigger than Perth and that's without Ipswich, Logan and Northern suburbs. I bet you didn't realise that Redcliffe isn't even actually part of Brisbane and it's measured population..
I consider it Brisbane along with Ipswich ect, the same as Parramatta is Sydney.
But Brisbane could easily host 4 successful clubs- easily. And I'm not advocating for it, the Dolphins deserve 10 to 20 years without another rival.
And I'd probably be comfortable with 2 super clubs to be fair.
But it will likely have a 3rd at some point for sure.

I’m sure it will but broncos haven’t ever come close to selling out so it’s not like there is big demand that can’t be met with the two existing clubs. Whilst it’s still a long wait to get an eagles ticketed membership dockers have plenty of capacity still. Can’t see either club allowing a third in. Not till perth gets to 3.5mill that’s predicted anyway.

 

[Gobsmacked]

Reporters always want to be the first to break a story, often they jump the gun and get it wrong in doing.

Remember she said the announcement was "soon" and the team would be playing in 2025.

Marape wanted a team in 2025. come to think of it, I don't think he was even taking himself seriously.

 

[Iamback]

Reporters always want to be the first to break a story, often they jump the gun and get it wrong in doing.

Remember she said the announcement was "soon" and the team would be playing in 2025.

I remember that, she left her role by then.

So there was zero in it to generate likes etc so someone must of given her the tip.

There doesn't seem to be any mail of any other location doing the rounds

 

[Canard]

Redcliffe isn't even actually part of Brisbane and it's measured population..

That's hilariously irrelevant.

People don't support teams based on census data. It's 20 odd kilometres from the Brisbane CBD and they play games at Lang Park.

 

[Canard]

I remember that, she left her role by then.

So there was zero in it to generate likes etc so someone must of given her the tip.

There doesn't seem to be any mail of any other location doing the rounds

Well the info she reported, as of today's date, was mostly wrong

 

[Gobsmacked]

I’m sure it will but broncos haven’t ever come close to selling out so it’s not like there is big demand that can’t be met with the two existing clubs. Whilst it’s still a long wait to get an eagles ticketed membership dockers have plenty of capacity still. Can’t see either club allowing a third in. Not till perth gets to 3.5mill that’s predicted anyway.

You're still using crowds? Rugby league is a television sport, always has been. I prefer watching it on TV.
Has f**k all to do with it. And the Broncos sell out vs Cowboys and Dolphins... only actually builds a case for another team...

 

[Gobsmacked]

That's hilariously irrelevant.

People don't support teams based on census data. It's 20 odd kilometres from the Brisbane CBD and they play games at Lang Park.

Irrelevant?
Yeah... if it's to support an argument that you just made up..
Learn to read dude.

 

[Perth Red]

You're still using crowds? Rugby league is a television sport, always has been. I prefer watching it on TV.
Has f**k all to do with it. And the Broncos sell out vs Cowboys and Dolphins... only actually builds a case for another team...

Maybe they should be campaigning for a bigger stadium rather than an unneeded club then?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

There’s been enough talk to suggest it’s a very real possibility png is next. it’s big risk for the nrl and in many ways nice not to see the traditional conservatism of the sport dictate decisions.

It’s also hard to see nrl turning down what the wa govt is offering if it is substantial for the game.

Tigers are an easy in but unlikely to be favoured choice as they will want to give dolphins at least a few years to establish.

Nz2 is a wildcard as only just starting to put together a case for inclusion.

id say it’s likely to be either png or Perth club 18, govt offers and risk determinant
perth club 19 if png is 18 and wa govt offer is too good to refuse
club 20 either nz2 or tigers depending on where things are at in ten - fifteen years.

if png is a no goer it’ll likely be perth club 18 then quite a while and tigers and nz2 19 and 20 probably 2033 onwards

2027 club 18
2030 club 19
2033 club 20.
possible timeline to a 20 club comp if png are a realistic choice

You're delusional.

What is the WA Gov offering?

How many local businesses are investing in a Perth-based team?

If you do not know the answer to these questions then you're not in a position to say Perth will be team 18 or 19.

Based on what VenuesWest said about an NRL team boosting tourism and providing local businesses with exposure on the east coast, the best bet for Perth is to pay an NRL team to take a few games to PRS.

Wests Tigers and Perth could benefit from working with one another.

 

[Gobsmacked]

Maybe they should be campaigning for a bigger stadium rather than an unneeded club then?

So if it doesn't sellout ( 52,000) the club is a failure.. if it sells out.. the stadium is a failure?
The AFL are lucky to have ya mate.

 

[Perth Red]

You're delusional.

What is the WA Gov offering?

How many local businesses are investing in a Perth-based team?

If you do not know the answer to these questions then you're not in a position to say Perth will be team 18 or 19.

Based on what VenuesWest said about an NRL team boosting tourism and providing local businesses with exposure on the east coast, the best bet for Perth is to pay an NRL team to take a few games to PRS.

Wests Tigers and Perth could benefit from working with one another.

I’m not delusional as I’m not claiming anything! No one knows what the wa govt is offering,hence why I said a decision on perth inclusion will largely hinge on what the wa govt is offering! If it’s too good for the nrl to ignore them perth will be either club 18 or 19. If it isnt then who knows what the nrl will decide.

Vlandys seemed impressed after his first conversation with the WA premier and did a 180 on his view of perth inclusion so it must have been something good!

 

[Perth Red]

So if it doesn't sellout ( 52,000) the club is a failure.. if it sells out.. the stadium is a failure?
The AFL are lucky to have ya mate.

If neither club are close to operating at full capacity then it shows another isn’t needed. For a couple of games a year when capacity is reached maybe a bigger stadium is a better option? The good people of Ipswich and Logan now have three seq clubs they can choose to support if they want to actively follow nrl.

 

[Gobsmacked]

I’m not delusional as I’m not claiming anything! No one knows what the wa govt is offering,hence why I said a decision on perth inclusion will largely hinge on what the wa govt is offering! If it’s too good for the nrl to ignore them perth will be either club 18 or 19. If it isnt then who knows what the nrl will decide.

seemed impressed after his first conversation with the premier and did a 180 on his view of perth inclusion so it must have been something good!

Perth and NZ2 are the next 2 teams.
Nobody knows who's next.
But I'd bet my left nut it's those 2

 

[Gobsmacked]

If neither club are close to operating at full capacity then it shows another isn’t needed. For a couple of games a year when capacity is reached maybe a bigger stadium is a better option? The good people of Ipswich and Logan now have three seq clubs they can choose to support if they want to actively follow nrl.

You're completely blind to anything that points away from a Perth team.
Completely blind.
It will be an interesting world for you once Perth gets a team..
Holy shit! Opportunity everywhere!

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I’m sure it will but broncos haven’t ever come close to selling out so it’s not like there is big demand that can’t be met with the two existing clubs. Whilst it’s still a long wait to get an eagles ticketed membership dockers have plenty of capacity still. Can’t see either club allowing a third in. Not till perth gets to 3.5mill that’s predicted anyway.

This is the one of the dumbest arguments you've presented in your case against Brisbane 3.

Why would the Broncos need to draw 50k to every match at Lang Park when the average for the 15 non-Brisbane clubs is 18,301, with that figure inflated by Magic Round?

The Broncos averaged 36k at Lang Park last year. That's twice the average of the non-Brisbane clubs.

Dolphins averaged 32k at Lang Park.

Meanwhile, we've got the Storm averaging just 17k at MRS with a team that's been camped inside the top four over the bulk of their existence. You're happy with the Storm having such a low supporter base in a city of 5m and use it to argue for teams in Adelaide and Perth, which are both smaller than Brisbane.

There's no logic behind your posts. You just want a team in Perth "because" it's where you live.

You're still using crowds? Rugby league is a television sport, always has been. I prefer watching it on TV.
Has f**k all to do with it. And the Broncos sell out vs Cowboys and Dolphins... only actually builds a case for another team...

The Broncos vs Dolphins game and crowds for Broncos vs Cowboys at Lang Park provide a compelling argument for a third Brisbane team. @Perth Red is too stupid to realise that the only way the NRL will develop bigger crowds from an 18th team is via a third Brisbane team playing out of Lang Park.

Maybe they should be campaigning for a bigger stadium rather than an unneeded club then?

Are you talking about Dolphin Oval or Lang Park?

A Perth-based club is the very definition of "unneeded".

 

[Gobsmacked]

If neither club are close to operating at full capacity then it shows another isn’t needed. For a couple of games a year when capacity is reached maybe a bigger stadium is a better option? The good people of Ipswich and Logan now have three seq clubs they can choose to support if they want to actively follow nrl.

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