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20 team comp with talent coming from the US

Billythekid

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As gambling has become more widespread and acceptable in the US a culture has developed of people that will gamble on pretty much anything and everything. It's sort of like their equivalent of Pokies addicts.

It's totally plausible that the NRL could make not insignificant amounts of money out of the US sports betting market, especially if they can jag a partnership with one of the bigger bookies. Whether or not playing a game there is necessary, or helpful, in achieving that goal is a different question.
Even in Australia at local clubs and pubs i've seen people betting on CGI horse races because there wasn't anything else on. Having said that i'm not sure I really see much benefit in this move tbh, seems like a potentially expensive waste of time.

The best way to become relevant in other markets is to continue to grow. Sure the NFL has spent a lot of money attempting to expand its reach to other countries and in large part the only reason that has happened is because the NFL and the supwerbowl are a big f*cken deal. When Australians see an NFL game coming here we know it's a big ass sport and it's an event so we show up. I'm not sure the reverse is a remotely similar situation.
I thought Victoria was the 18th team, so it back to being PNG again?
When has Victoria ever been touted as a likely 18th team? Also i'd say very few consider PNG an actual viable expansion let alone a front runner.

I'd say the general consensus is that NZ2, Perth and Brisbane 2 will be fighting for the spot. Personally I see Perth as the favourite with the other 2 making up the next round of expansion.
 

Gobsmacked

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I'm so glad you negative f**ks aren't running the game 🤦‍♂️
You guys decided it was horse shit ect, never happen ect.. now cause it's happening you death ride it to justify your dumb stance on the issue previously..
It's plain as day . You're not champions for RL , rather champions for the first thought that runs through your skull...
Seriously, the games going to Vegas.
Forget your previous brain fart band wagon and enjoy the fact that this game is spreading it's wings!!
 
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Hugh jackman apparently.
So the nutcases from the ARLC and Sydney media think Hugh Jackman and Manly are in a better position to sell the game than the Murdochs and Broncos?

One of them is an average actor who supports a small Sydney club that makes f**k all money and plays at a shithole with a hill. The other owns a significant stake in the American media landscape and control the world's largest and most profitable rugby league club, based out of the best rugby league stadium in the world.

Americans will look up Manly and see they play at Brookvale Oval. There are high schools in America that have better facilities for their football teams.

Sending Manly to America will make our game look poor, irrelevant and low brow?
 

Perth Red

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So the nutcases from the ARLC and Sydney media think Hugh Jackman and Manly are in a better position to sell the game than the Murdochs and Broncos?

One of them is an average actor who supports a small Sydney club that makes f**k all money and plays at a shithole with a hill. The other owns a significant stake in the American media landscape and control the world's largest and most profitable rugby league club, based out of the best rugby league stadium in the world.

Americans will look up Manly and see they play at Brookvale Oval. There are high schools in America that have better facilities for their football teams.

Sending Manly to America will make our game look poor, irrelevant and low brow?
The Americans will have zero idea who or where manly, souths or brisbane are. It doesn't really matter who goes and plays tbh. 15k rattling around the 65k stadium will make sydney clubs feel at home.
 

Perth Red

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With licensing coming in any city in the world, in theory, has the opportunity to develop a club into an A class license and get automatic SL admission. The stark reality is RL is a small sport and the road is littered with expansion cities unable to sustain a SL club. Paris, London, Sheffield, Toronto, Wales, Gateshead, Toulouse etc. all fallen by the way side on the crumbling reality of good intentions.
I hope we go to 14 clubs and see London and Toulouse back in, they probably have the best chance of anyone of making it in SL.

For a comp that cant even get a club in 5 major cities, when there are only 5 major cities in the country, Im not sure Id be taking advice on expansion from the NRL or its fans lol
 
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The Americans will have zero idea who or where manly, souths or brisbane are. It doesn't really matter who goes and plays tbh. 15k rattling around the 65k stadium will make sydney clubs feel at home.
Brisbane is now an Olympic city. That alone is something that can be marketed to the American public. I can see the Queensland Gov using it as an opportunity to promote tourism. The Treasury Casino and Broncos Leagues Club could use it to promote their businesses to gamblers who want to holiday in Australia.

Melbourne is also an Olympic city.

Brisbane vs South Sydney

Melbourne vs Sydney

That's the two matches I'd take over there to make the NRL look like more than a Sydney suburban competition. If it gets the Queensland, NSW and Vic Govs involved then even better.

If we had a Perth team then we could have Brisbane vs Perth.
 

Gobsmacked

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The Americans will have zero idea who or where manly, souths or brisbane are. It doesn't really matter who goes and plays tbh. 15k rattling around the 65k stadium will make sydney clubs feel at home.
You're so good at being wrong.
Remember how you were saying the Dolphins didn't have enough time to build a competitive roster, or that the Broncos lost 10k in attendance because those fans had been taken by the Dolphins lol. There's been heaps I can't remember off the top of my head but..
This is right up there!
15k 🤣.. probably 20k will travel there from Australia for the occasion .. Australian, NZ expats from across the US will be another 20... it'll nearly sellout before they advertise..
It's an event city, people there attend everything.

Here's a prediction and you can hold me to it! It will sell out, be deemed an overwhelming success and become a permanent fixture. Not only that, other clubs will be banging on the door for inclusion.

Bookmark this post.
 

Perth Red

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You're so good at being wrong.
Remember how you were saying the Dolphins didn't have enough time to build a competitive roster, or that the Broncos lost 10k in attendance because those fans had been taken by the Dolphins lol. There's been heaps I can't remember off the top of my head but..
This is right up there!
15k 🤣.. probably 20k will travel there from Australia for the occasion .. Australian, NZ expats from across the US will be another 20... it'll nearly sellout before they advertise..
It's an event city, people there attend everything.

Here's a prediction and you can hold me to it! It will sell out, be deemed an overwhelming success and become a permanent fixture. Not only that, other clubs will be banging on the door for inclusion.

Bookmark this post.
will do lol.
 

Gobsmacked

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So the nutcases from the ARLC and Sydney media think Hugh Jackman and Manly are in a better position to sell the game than the Murdochs and Broncos?

One of them is an average actor who supports a small Sydney club that makes f**k all money and plays at a shithole with a hill. The other owns a significant stake in the American media landscape and control the world's largest and most profitable rugby league club, based out of the best rugby league stadium in the world.

Americans will look up Manly and see they play at Brookvale Oval. There are high schools in America that have better facilities for their football teams.

Sending Manly to America will make our game look poor, irrelevant and low brow?
I wonder if Americans know who plays Wolverine...
f**k you're dumb.
Can't believe out of curiosity I clicked " show ignored content " 🤦‍♂️
What a dunce.
 

Canard

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So the nutcases from the ARLC and Sydney media think Hugh Jackman and Manly are in a better position to sell the game than the Murdochs and Broncos?

One of them is an average actor who supports a small Sydney club that makes f**k all money and plays at a shithole with a hill. The other owns a significant stake in the American media landscape and control the world's largest and most profitable rugby league club, based out of the best rugby league stadium in the world.

Americans will look up Manly and see they play at Brookvale Oval. There are high schools in America that have better facilities for their football teams.

Sending Manly to America will make our game look poor, irrelevant and low brow?
There a myriad of reasons why going to Vegas is a bad idea (which I'm still convinced will not happen).

The finances, or lack thereof, home game venue will be irrelevant.

People do not support a team, or club, because of their financial reports.

Its also incredible that you think that the NRL will have such a cut through with Yanks, that they will be researching their capacity etc.
 
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I wonder if Americans know who plays Wolverine...
f**k you're dumb.
Can't believe out of curiosity I clicked " show ignored content " 🤦‍♂️
What a dunce.
Americans knowing that Hugh Jackman plays Wolverine doesn't disprove any of my points, does it?

The fact you think it does proves you're a simpleton.

The whole point of this exercise is to get the American gambling community interested in the NRL. American betting companies aren't going to invest in the NRL just because Hugh Jackman supports Manly. They'll look at Manly and think it's just a small and irrelevant game from a small and irrelevant market. The Murdochs have clout in the American media.
 

mongoose

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Even in Australia at local clubs and pubs i've seen people betting on CGI horse races because there wasn't anything else on. Having said that i'm not sure I really see much benefit in this move tbh, seems like a potentially expensive waste of time.

The best way to become relevant in other markets is to continue to grow. Sure the NFL has spent a lot of money attempting to expand its reach to other countries and in large part the only reason that has happened is because the NFL and the supwerbowl are a big f*cken deal. When Australians see an NFL game coming here we know it's a big ass sport and it's an event so we show up. I'm not sure the reverse is a remotely similar situation.

When has Victoria ever been touted as a likely 18th team? Also i'd say very few consider PNG an actual viable expansion let alone a front runner.

I'd say the general consensus is that NZ2, Perth and Brisbane 2 will be fighting for the spot. Personally I see Perth as the favourite with the other 2 making up the next round of expansion.

i have faith in Peter, he will make it happen :)
 
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There a myriad of reasons why going to Vegas is a bad idea (which I'm still convinced will not happen).

The finances, or lack thereof, home game venue will be irrelevant.

People do not support a team, or club, because of their financial reports.

Its also incredible that you think that the NRL will have such a cut through with Yanks, that they will be researching their capacity etc.

America's professional sports teams play out of large stadia with world class facilities, do they not?

That's what Americans view as the standard for professional sport. Anything below that will make them think it's low rate and not worth supporting. The only foreign leagues that are big in America are EPL and F1. Both are based out of world class stadia and sell out crowds.

If an American gambler does think about having a punt on a game or two then you can bet your arse they'll look up NRL.COM and YouTube to see a livestream of the game. They'll take one look at Brookvale and write off the NRL as a worthless game for hillbillies.

Americans won't have to research Brookvale's capacity to know it's a shithole. They'll see a livestream or a highlights video of a game at Brookvale and reach the same conclusion that everyone on here has.
 

mongoose

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I'm so glad you negative f**ks aren't running the game 🤦‍♂️
You guys decided it was horse shit ect, never happen ect.. now cause it's happening you death ride it to justify your dumb stance on the issue previously..
It's plain as day . You're not champions for RL , rather champions for the first thought that runs through your skull...
Seriously, the games going to Vegas.
Forget your previous brain fart band wagon and enjoy the fact that this game is spreading it's wings!!
aren't you the one who said rusted on AFL states will never support League and then you claimed to be an AFL fan?
 
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aren't you the one who said rusted on AFL states will never support League and then you claimed to be an AFL fan?
You won't get any sense out of @Gobsmacked. He is an idiot.

The bloke spent months arguing that NZ2 will kill the NZRU, even though people who've been involved with RL in NZ at the grassroots level for 30+ years pointed out the absurdity of his claim.

Yes, he has argued against a team in Perth because it's an AFL city, despite the fact the Storm are one of the largest NRL clubs and are based out of the home of AFL.

There's no logic to his posts.
 

Canard

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America's professional sports teams play out of large stadia with world class facilities, do they not?

That's what Americans view as the standard for professional sport. Anything below that will make them think it's low rate and not worth supporting. The only foreign leagues that are big in America are EPL and F1. Both are based out of world class stadia and sell out crowds.

If an American gambler does think about having a punt on a game or two then you can bet your arse they'll look up NRL.COM and YouTube to see a livestream of the game. They'll take one look at Brookvale and write off the NRL as a worthless game for hillbillies.

Americans won't have to research Brookvale's capacity to know it's a shithole. They'll see a livestream or a highlights video of a game at Brookvale and reach the same conclusion that everyone on here has.
The Raiders play in a state of the art stadium and average 61k per game, the Broncos and their home ground will seem just as pissant at the Sea Eagles.

Playing a game in Vegas would (if it happens) be just purely for the NRL admin and journos to have a junket overseas.
 
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The Raiders play in a state of the art stadium and average 61k per game, the Broncos and their home ground will seem just as pissant at the Sea Eagles.

Playing a game in Vegas would (if it happens) be just purely for the NRL admin and journos to have a junket overseas.
This is complete bullshit and you know it. Lang Park is a world class stadium that shits all over most NFL grounds. Broncos draw more than twice as many people than the Sea Eagles. Manly have been taking home games against the Broncos to Lang Park for years because it's more profitable than playing at Brookvale.

Broncos have drawn three massive crowds at Lang Park this year that rival NFL games.

I've seen NFL games played in front of half empty stadia.
 

Perth Red

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Why would Americans be inclined to bet on an NRL game anymore than one of the hundred other professional sports comps in the world? Many of which are much bigger and with more glamour to them?
Maybe if you could get americans interested in NRl and get the game watched by a reasonable portion of people on tv, but Union and soccer has invested a lot more over a lot longer time than one NRl game will do and have come up short.

The whole things sounds nearly as bonkers a pasifika team. Is it April 1st and groundhog day with all these batsht crazy things the commission keeps coming up with?
 
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