20 team comp with talent coming from the US

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Why would Americans be inclined to bet on an NRL game anymore than one of the hundred other professional sports comps in the world? Many of which are much bigger and with more glamour to them?
Maybe if you could get americans interested in NRl and get the game watched by a reasonable portion of people on tv, but Union and soccer has invested a lot more over a lot longer time than one NRl game will do and have come up short.

The whole things sounds nearly as bonkers a pasifika team. Is it April 1st and groundhog day with all these batsht crazy things the commission keeps coming up with?

The only drawcard the NRL has over every other league from around the world is pokie dens.

"If you like to gamble and have a piss up while watching sport then come to Brisbane and Sydney. There's Leagues Clubs everywhere catering to pissheads and gambling addicts!"

 

[Iamback]

Like I said 19 hours difference. The F1 starts at 10pm local, which is 5pm here the next day.

So a 7pm Saturday kickoff in Vegas is 2pm Sunday here. A double header from 7 to 11pm in Vegas is 2 to 6pm here.

Yep the week before the comp starts. Have those 4 sides play on the Sunday in Round 2 and gets rid of jetlag fairly

 

[Iamback]

You're so good at being wrong.
Remember how you were saying the Dolphins didn't have enough time to build a competitive roster, or that the Broncos lost 10k in attendance because those fans had been taken by the Dolphins lol. There's been heaps I can't remember off the top of my head but..
This is right up there!
15k .. probably 20k will travel there from Australia for the occasion .. Australian, NZ expats from across the US will be another 20... it'll nearly sellout before they advertise..
It's an event city, people there attend everything.

Here's a prediction and you can hold me to it! It will sell out, be deemed an overwhelming success and become a permanent fixture. Not only that, other clubs will be banging on the door for inclusion.

Bookmark this post.

We saw Samoan RL support from the US, They will be in the next world cup. So it isn't as though there is zero knowledge of the game

 

[Wb1234]

With licensing coming in any city in the world, in theory, has the opportunity to develop a club into an A class license and get automatic SL admission. The stark reality is RL is a small sport and the road is littered with expansion cities unable to sustain a SL club. Paris, London, Sheffield, Toronto, Wales, Gateshead, Toulouse etc. all fallen by the way side on the crumbling reality of good intentions.
I hope we go to 14 clubs and see London and Toulouse back in, they probably have the best chance of anyone of making it in SL.

For a comp that cant even get a club in 5 major cities, when there are only 5 major cities in the country, Im not sure Id be taking advice on expansion from the NRL or its fans lol

For a fan of a comp with two teams in hull, and that killed off Toronto and let London wither the last thing an Aussie should do is listen to you

super league shouldn’t be wasting a spot on your club and you know it

 

[Canard]

This is complete bullshit and you know it. Lang Park is a world class stadium that shits all over most NFL grounds. Broncos draw more than twice as many people than the Sea Eagles. Manly have been taking home games against the Broncos to Lang Park for years because it's more profitable than playing at Brookvale.

Broncos have drawn three massive crowds at Lang Park this year that rival NFL games.

I've seen NFL games played in front of half empty stadia.

The NRL average crowd for 2022 was just shy of 70k. The Broncos don't draw crowds that rival NFL in any way, shape or form.

NFL per-game attendance makes big jump

The average NFL crowd grew by 3.25% to 69,442 per game in 2022, the second-largest figure in the last 19 years, according to an SBJ analysis of published box score attendance.

www.sportsbusinessjournal.com

Have you seen So Fi Stadium in LA?

SoFi Stadium - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Or Allegiant Stadium (home of the LV Raiders)

Allegiant Stadium - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Or Cowboys Stadium

AT&T Stadium - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The facilities and fan experience (not to mention ticket price) are light years ahead of anything offered at Suncorp or anywhere in the NRL. Suncorp is basically 3 decades old at this point and whilst great for NRL and Australia, you cant compare it to what they have.

 

[Canard]

For a fan of a comp with two teams in hull, and that killed off Toronto and let London wither the last thing an Aussie should do is listen to you

super league shouldn’t be wasting a spot on your club and you know it

Not one part of this post addresses the points raised, and makes any attempt to have a good faith discussion.

 

[taxidriver]

So let's unpack your latest optimism.
Firstly they aren't 1000 to 1. These are premium athletes at their physical peak in the best training facilities in the world, at the cutting edge of sport science .
Our 2 biggest stars went there just to tap into their science around recovery.
These are the biggest, fastest, most agile, strongest... the best f**king athletes in the world! You think..1000 to 1
And 1 to 2 years? ... yeah ! Outside of 6 and 7 what makes our game so good is it isn't complicated!!!
An already pro athlete learning 1 one the most basic sports is easy!
They play 1 of the most complicated, they will find it easy.

The next thing is, it isn't just players he's talking about. A couple of players that made a small impact at a college level trying their hands down under at a collision sports will spark interest from fans and broadcasters in the US .
Do you remember how many Australians turned in to watch Hayne?? Btm making the switch the other way- more complicated sport... at a later age .. and making it to the NFL.
Thank god we have PVD , otherwise we'd be stuck with some narrow minded Muppet.

the best athletes in the world with the aerobic capcity of an 80 year 3 pack a day smoker

 

[The Great Dane]

Even in Australia at local clubs and pubs i've seen people betting on CGI horse races because there wasn't anything else on. Having said that i'm not sure I really see much benefit in this move tbh, seems like a potentially expensive waste of time.

The best way to become relevant in other markets is to continue to grow. Sure the NFL has spent a lot of money attempting to expand its reach to other countries and in large part the only reason that has happened is because the NFL and the supwerbowl are a big f*cken deal. When Australians see an NFL game coming here we know it's a big ass sport and it's an event so we show up. I'm not sure the reverse is a remotely similar situation.

I don't necessarily disagree with what you are saying, but it's a moot point because it's obvious that PVL and the NRL's goal in this isn't to become relevant or to grow in the US. Their goal is simply to get the NRL under the nose of a percentage of gamblers in the US when there's little else to bet on.

And it's pretty low risk anyway. If it works out they've got a new revenue stream that's low effort. If it doesn't work out they'll still have bought themselves a bunch of publicity back home and gone on a nice little junket.

 

[The Great Dane]

The Americans will have zero idea who or where manly, souths or brisbane are. It doesn't really matter who goes and plays tbh. 15k rattling around the 65k stadium will make sydney clubs feel at home.

TBF the most persuasive marketing strategy is celebrity endorsement.

It would definitely have an impact if the NRL could get two A-list celebrities to help actively promote their product in the US.

The real question is can they actually get Russel Crowe, Hugh Jackman, and potentially others through their contacts, to do marketing material and a press tour to sell the NRL, and would they have time in their schedules to do it. I can see how Rusty would benefit from it, but I don't see what would be in it for Jackman.

 

[The Great Dane]

This is complete bullshit and you know it. Lang Park is a world class stadium that shits all over most NFL grounds.

You're not serious are you?

 

[Billythekid]

The NRL average crowd for 2022 was just shy of 70k. The Broncos don't draw crowds that rival NFL in any way, shape or form.

NFL per-game attendance makes big jump

The average NFL crowd grew by 3.25% to 69,442 per game in 2022, the second-largest figure in the last 19 years, according to an SBJ analysis of published box score attendance.

www.sportsbusinessjournal.com

Have you seen So Fi Stadium in LA?

SoFi Stadium - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Or Allegiant Stadium (home of the LV Raiders)

Allegiant Stadium - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Or Cowboys Stadium

AT&T Stadium - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The facilities and fan experience (not to mention ticket price) are light years ahead of anything offered at Suncorp or anywhere in the NRL. Suncorp is basically 3 decades old at this point and whilst great for NRL and Australia, you cant compare it to what they have.

I don’t think Suncorp is quite as good as those stadiums but if you can’t possibly believe it looks the same as brookvale. When watching a game at Suncorp (especially on TV) it absolutely looks like a modern stadium.

 

[The Great Dane]

Why would Americans be inclined to bet on an NRL game anymore than one of the hundred other professional sports comps in the world? Many of which are much bigger and with more glamour to them?

Because they're addicts that are only betting to get their fix.

They don't know anything about what they are betting on, nor do they care, they won't even necessarily know what sport they are betting on. It's just about gambling for the sake of gambling.

Every minute there're thousands of Americans (and people using American bookies) betting on tiny lower tier soccer competitions in countries that they can't even point to on a map, Indian cricket, Handball in Europe, even the AFL and NRL. What the NRL is trying to do is jag a partnership or two that makes them more prominent on some of those betting apps.

 

[Canard]

I don’t think Suncorp is quite as good as those stadiums but if you can’t possibly believe it looks the same as brookvale. When watching a game at Suncorp (especially on TV) it absolutely looks like a modern stadium.

I don't recall saying that it looks like Brookvale.

My point, is that it would be irrelevant what a clubs home ground is or looks like on TV.

Do people follow Liverpool because of the Kop??

 

[Canard]

Because they're addicts that are only betting to get their fix.

They don't know anything about what they are betting on, nor do they care, they won't even necessarily know what sport they are betting on. It's just about gambling for the sake of gambling.

Every minute there're thousands of Americans (and people using American bookies) betting on tiny lower tier soccer competitions in countries that they can't even point to on a map, Indian cricket, Handball in Europe, even the AFL and NRL. What the NRL is trying to do is jag a partnership or two that makes them more prominent on some of those betting apps.

Why not do that via online advertising and getting TV coverage OS.

This just looks like a junket for the boys.

 

[MugaB]

I wonder if Americans know who plays Wolverine...
f**k you're dumb.
Can't believe out of curiosity I clicked " show ignored content "
What a dunce.

He thought it was the major of logan

What a fkn potato

 

[Wb1234]

I don't necessarily disagree with what you are saying, but it's a moot point because it's obvious that PVL and the NRL's goal in this isn't to become relevant or to grow in the US. Their goal is simply to get the NRL under the nose of a percentage of gamblers in the US when there's little else to bet on.

And it's pretty low risk anyway. If it works out they've got a new revenue stream that's low effort. If it doesn't work out they'll still have bought themselves a bunch of publicity back home and gone on a nice little junket.

Vlandys said before his goal is 20 million pa in revenue to the nrl from the American gambling market

it’s funny other posters on here are questioning this when the guy is literally an expert on gambling markets

he took on the nsw industry and made them all pay much more for nsw racing

NSW racing industry lands funding boost in gambling tax shakeup

The NSW racing industry will receive a funding boost of at least $265 million as the government moves to hike the tax rate for the booming online gambling sector.

amp.smh.com.au

NSW Racing to Get A$265 Million from New Betting Tax

The NSW racing industry will benefit the most from the NSW betting tax hike. It is estimated the industry will get A$265 after the tax hike.

www.kruzey.com.au

 

[Gobsmacked]

aren't you the one who said rusted on AFL states will never support League and then you claimed to be an AFL fan?

Claimed to be an AFL?
Why would I claim that?
If you're going to try and discredit me, at least make it realistic

 

[Gobsmacked]

The Raiders play in a state of the art stadium and average 61k per game, the Broncos and their home ground will seem just as pissant at the Sea Eagles.

Playing a game in Vegas would (if it happens) be just purely for the NRL admin and journos to have a junket overseas.

What is a junket?

 

[Gobsmacked]

Why would Americans be inclined to bet on an NRL game anymore than one of the hundred other professional sports comps in the world? Many of which are much bigger and with more glamour to them?
Maybe if you could get americans interested in NRl and get the game watched by a reasonable portion of people on tv, but Union and soccer has invested a lot more over a lot longer time than one NRl game will do and have come up short.

The whole things sounds nearly as bonkers a pasifika team. Is it April 1st and groundhog day with all these batsht crazy things the commission keeps coming up with?

 

[docbrown]

Obviously you guys aren’t following one of the biggest viral sports stories at the moment regarding Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney buying a shit Welsh soccer club for a pittance. Nobody in the USA caress that they play in a minor league in front of tiny crowds in a shit stadium. The story is in how they promoted the club constantly and that’s what people latched onto. I’ve been following it for about two years now.

I wouldn’t have picked Manly but if the NRL can tee up Hugh Jackman then it becomes a story that markets itself. You don’t think he’d invite Ryan Reynolds as well to a once in a generation game in the states? And also Blake Lively? Same with Russell Crowe. I’ve been to G’Day USA events and the potential is there for this to become a big tourism centrepiece event with Australian government backing.