20 team comp with talent coming from the US

[The Great Dane]

This thread wouldn’t be legitimate without an overdose of your pessimism in it. Thanks for playing.

Reality doesn't change just because you don't like it.

Go and look into the history of sports leagues trying and failing to achieve what PVL is suggesting for yourself.

 

[Gobsmacked]

Reality doesn't change just because you don't like it.

Go and look into the history of sports leagues trying and failing to achieve what PVL is suggesting for yourself.

That's fine mate, just give up. That's why you're here and he's running the biggest Rugby comp in the world .

 

[stryker]

These are the biggest, fastest, most agile, strongest... the best f**king athletes in the world! You think..1000 to 1
And 1 to 2 years? ... yeah ! Outside of 6 and 7 what makes our game so good is it isn't complicated!!!
An already pro athlete learning 1 one the most basic sports is easy!
They play 1 of the most complicated, they will find it easy.

NRL is a simple game at its core, however there’s two areas these guys from the NFL will take time to overcome:
1. The collisions. No padding to protect you, no helmet to use as a battle ram. None of them are used to being belted over and over again and expected to get up and keep going….which leads me to my second point,
2. Endurance. NFL players have little need for endurance. Some defend, some attack. They run a play then stand around chin wagging, then run another play, chin wag some more…..rinse and repeat. It would be an extreme shock for them to learn they have to defend and attack, with very little break between transition from one to the other.

Interesting thought, but it won’t pay off unless they play a number of years in rugby league before coming over. Only get a few years out of the best ones.

 

[Billythekid]

Don’t want them

If you want to talk about dumb ideas for expansion then gws gcs and tasmania would be your best bet

dolphins
Nz2
Perth
And png

now that’s genuine expansion

Where is the argument lol? I’ve been arguing for expansion to Perth and NZ2 since I joined here 15+ years ago. How is that relevant here? Again you’re so desperate to make everything a battle between AFL and NRL that you’ve lost your marbles.

 

[Wb1234]

Where is the argument lol? I’ve been arguing for expansion to Perth and NZ2 since I joined here 15+ years ago. How is that relevant here? Again you’re so desperate to make everything a battle between AFL and NRL that you’ve lost your marbles.

So you’ve been arguing for them but when the arlc discusses them you say it’s a bad idea

ok got it

 

[Iamback]

Nothing wrong with targeting un-drafted college football players but why aren’t we targeting South African Union schoolboy talent like we do with NZ union schoolboy talent?

Economics, Not much money in SA.

Whether or not players come from it RL has for as long as I can remember chased the US $

They want a WC and an NRL game in the US, Any players are a bonus

 

[Pneuma]

Reality doesn't change just because you don't like it.

Go and look into the history of sports leagues trying and failing to achieve what PVL is suggesting for yourself.

Reality results from investigation and effort not from abject negativity.

 

[Pneuma]

So you’ve been arguing for them but when the arlc discusses them you say it’s a bad idea

ok got it

He is a negative expansionist. Likes the idea but hates any strategy for getting there. Few others here as well.

 

[Iamback]

NRL is a simple game at its core, however there’s two areas these guys from the NFL will take time to overcome:
1. The collisions. No padding to protect you, no helmet to use as a battle ram. None of them are used to being belted over and over again and expected to get up and keep going….which leads me to my second point,
2. Endurance. NFL players have little need for endurance. Some defend, some attack. They run a play then stand around chin wagging, then run another play, chin wag some more…..rinse and repeat. It would be an extreme shock for them to learn they have to defend and attack, with very little break between transition from one to the other.

Interesting thought, but it won’t pay off unless they play a number of years in rugby league before coming over. Only get a few years out of the best ones.

The US Rugby system is decent enough, Similar should be the aim for RL

 

[Billythekid]

So you’ve been arguing for them but when the arlc discusses them you say it’s a bad idea

ok got it

Show me where I said it’s a bad idea to expand? Christ reading comprehension is in short supply it seems.

 

[Billythekid]

He is a negative expansionist. Likes the idea but hates any strategy for getting there. Few others here as well.

Because the only way to expand is to try and poach failed NFL players. If anything you’re the one short changing the game if you think we need pie in the sky BS like that to expand.

 

[Wb1234]

Show me where I said it’s a bad idea to expand? Christ reading comprehension is in short supply it seems.

You said you’ve heard all this before and it’s just pie in the sky bs blah blah blah

 

[Billythekid]

You said you’ve heard all this before and it’s just pie in the sky bs blah blah blah

Yes and I was clearly talking about trying to poach US players who couldn’t make the NFL, hence the failure in reading comprehension.

 

[reanimate]

I'd concentrate on spending money in Australia, NZ, UK and the Pacific first, then after that Rugby Union would be a far better bet in terms of recruiting players who can both attack and defend and have stamina to last more then for short bursts.

Those without central national team contacts playing in the Currie Cup and NPC would be the best bet.

You could poach 100 players from rugby union worldwide that aren’t under national team contracts and in most cases double or triple their salaries and still keep to the salary cap. The NRL should view the $39 million combined salary cap for teams 18 to 20 as their warchest to raid union.

100%.

We have the ability to poach players from a very similar sport that instils in players all the basic skills you need to play our game. Players brought in from Union already know how to catch, pass and kick, already know how to tackle and already play in positions on the field that are often very similar to those in RL.

We haven’t tapped out our existing sources of RL talent and we’ve barely scratched the surface in terms of poaching talent from Union.

 

[Billythekid]

100%.

We have the ability to poach players from a very similar sport that instils in players all the basic skills you need to play our game. Players brought in from Union already know how to catch, pass and kick, already know how to tackle and already play in positions on the field that are often very similar to those in RL.

We haven’t tapped out our existing sources of RL talent and we’ve barely scratched the surface in terms of poaching talent from Union.

Not to mention the country to our north with a population of 10 million and rapidly expanding where rugby league is the number 1 game in town.

We can do so much more tapping into talent in NZ and Australia as well. We don’t need to try and chase US players.

 

[Gobsmacked]

NRL is a simple game at its core, however there’s two areas these guys from the NFL will take time to overcome:
1. The collisions. No padding to protect you, no helmet to use as a battle ram. None of them are used to being belted over and over again and expected to get up and keep going….which leads me to my second point,
2. Endurance. NFL players have little need for endurance. Some defend, some attack. They run a play then stand around chin wagging, then run another play, chin wag some more…..rinse and repeat. It would be an extreme shock for them to learn they have to defend and attack, with very little break between transition from one to the other.

Interesting thought, but it won’t pay off unless they play a number of years in rugby league before coming over. Only get a few years out of the best ones.

All good points! And I appreciate your contribution. You're right to a degree but not are thier attributes that of speed and strength ect.. they are used to dedicating themselves to a physical goal so of all the people to learn the game..these are not just the most physically suited but mentally also. So they would be literally the quickest imaginable from all angles.

Do you take into account that their previous skill set might give them some extra advantages? Short sprints for example.

 

[Wb1234]

Yes and I was clearly talking about trying to poach US players who couldn’t make the NFL, hence the failure in reading comprehension.

If that’s the case then I apologise

 

[Perth Red]

100%.

We have the ability to poach players from a very similar sport that instils in players all the basic skills you need to play our game. Players brought in from Union already know how to catch, pass and kick, already know how to tackle and already play in positions on the field that are often very similar to those in RL.

We haven’t tapped out our existing sources of RL talent and we’ve barely scratched the surface in terms of poaching talent from Union.

When you think about great players like Martin offiah, Jonathan Davies etc who switched straight into first grade from union Im staggered we don’t raid union for snr talent constantly if we have a player development depth problem.

 

[Perth Red]

Not to mention the country to our north with a population of 10 million and rapidly expanding where rugby league is the number 1 game in town.

We can do so much more tapping into talent in NZ and Australia as well. We don’t need to try and chase US players.

If the arlc funded vic and wa $2mill more a year, nzrl $10million and pngrl $5million we’d have more new talent coming through then we knew what to do with. Throw in some elite systems and academies in regional nsw and qlnd and 22 clubs wouldn’t be a problem.

 

[Wb1234]

When you think about great players like Martin offiah, Jonathan Davies etc who switched straight into first grade from union Im staggered we don’t raid union for snr talent constantly if we have a player development depth problem.

Money