2008 Crowd Watch - Final Totals in Post #3778

[NK Arsenal]

This is what else can be done

• Less night footy - the highest drawing sports competitions in the world (AFL, NFL and EPL) have the majority of games on afternoons to get big crowds and a few "blockbuster" games at night. Look at Arsenal in the EPL - everytime they play they get a sell out of 60k+ at the Emirates on a Saturday/Sunday afternoon and get the same crowd figure for say, a Champions League or FA Cup match on a Wednesday/Tuesday night
• More advertising - most people here wouldn't know that their team is playing if it wasn't for the internet. Bombard newspapers, TV, radio etc with news about an upcoming RL match
• Have a country round where we take games to the bush and other areas such as Darwin, Cairns, Perth, Wellington, Port Moresby etc
• Cheaper tickets - with petrol prices and interest rates rising by the day, a family of four simply would not be able to go to the footy cause it would cost a fair bit. The AFL have acknowledged this and look how cheap the ticket prices are. I had a look at AFL ticket prices the other day and for some game it costed $3 for an U6 and $7 for an U16. No wonder they get such good crowds ffs
• Let kids who play RL get in for free - It would entice parents to have their kid play RL and entice parents to go to the footy with them.

OK, that's just a few suggestions but there is still a lot more the NRL can do instead of capitalising on TV ratings.

 

[Timmah]

You could get off your ass and go to some games too

 

[NK Arsenal]

When I get a job ffs :lol:

Hopefully I get my Ps this week so I can be a pizza boy ;-)

 

[scottyeel]

13,065 at Parramatta

That's not too bad cosidering the weather, looked to be a lot of tigers supporters there too.

 

[yakstorm]

Hopefully it means a good crowd at the Double Header next week. Manly need the win to stay in the hunt for the minor premiership and a home final, Wests Tigers and Eels both need the win to stay in the hunt for the finals, Bulldogs... well lets hope their members turn up...

 

[Timmah]

The story so far
NRL Crowd Figures & Comparisons after Round Twenty-Three


Round 1 - March 14-17
SOU v SYD - 29,386 @ ANZ
GCO v NQL - 26,974 @ Skilled
PAR v BUL - 25,065 @ ANZ
MAN v CRO - 15,424 @ Brookvale
NWC v CAN - 17,233 @ EAS
BRI v PEN - 31,250 @ Suncorp
WES v STG - 18,211 @ SFS
MEL v NZW - 20,084 @ Telstra Dome
Total: 183,627
Avg: 22,953
2007 - Total 185,051 Avg 23,131 (8 matches)
2006 - Total 161,713 Avg 23,101 (7 matches)
2005 - Total 159,614 Avg 22,802 (7 matches)

Round 2 - March 21-24
SOU v BUL - 21,839 @ ANZ
SYD v BRI - 18,724 @ SFS
PEN v CAN - 7,503 @ CUA
NWC v MAN - 18,117 @ EAS
NQL v WES - 20,655 @ DFS
NZW v PAR - 15,250 @ MSS
MEL v CRO - 10,720 @ OPS
STG v GCO - 10,521 @ WIN
Total: 123,332
Avg: 15,417
2007 - Total 124,964 Avg 15,620 (8 matches)
2006 - Total 121,369 Avg 17,338 (7 matches)
2005 - Total 110,428 Avg 15,775 (7 matches)


Round 3 - March 28-31
BRI v NQL - 50,612 @ Suncorp
PAR v NWC - 15,176 @ Parramatta
SYD v MEL - 12,137 @ SFS
CAN v STG - 14,440 @ Canberra
GCO v CRO - 19,050 @ Skilled
PEN v SOU - 10,839 @ CUA
BUL v WES - 21,057 @ ANZ
MAN v NZW - 10,175 @ Brookvale
Total: 153,486
Avg: 19,186
2007 - Total 123,456 Avg 15,432 (8 matches)
2006 - Total 126,039 Avg 18,005 (7 matches)
2005 - Total 116,244 Avg 16,606 (7 matches)


Round 4 - April 4-7
BUL v SYD - 36,526 @ ANZ
MEL v BRI - 13,831 @ OPS
STG v CRO - 15,318 @ ANZ
GCO v CAN - 17,381 @ Skilled
NQL v PAR - 19,231 @ DFS
NZW v NWC - 11,518 @ MSS
MAN v SOU - 14,426 @ Brookvale
WES v PEN - 11,898 @ CSS
Total: 140,129
Avg: 17,516
2007 - Total 148,330 Avg 18,541 (8 matches)
2006 - Total 103,791 Avg 14,827 (7 matches)
2005 - Total 105,979 Avg 15,139 (7 matches)


Round 5 - April 11-14
PAR v GCO - 13,321 @ Parramatta
MEL v MAN - 13,632 @ OPS
STG v NQL - 11,639 @ WIN
PEN v SYD - 16,924 @ CUA
NZW v BUL - 15,912 @ MSS
CAN v WES - 12,240 @ Canberra
NWC v BRI - 21,614 @ EAS
SOU v CRO - 12,988 @ CSS
Total: 118,270
Avg: 14,784
2007 - Total 158,721 Avg 19,840 (8 matches)
2006 - Total 105,083 Avg 15,011 (7 matches)
2005 - Total 127,840 Avg 18,262 (7 matches)



Round 6 (Heritage Round) - April 18-21
PAR v MAN - 14,025 @ Parramatta
GCO v BRI - 27,176 @ Skilled
BUL v STG - 14,767 @ ANZ
CRO v PEN - 13,852 @ Toyota
NQL v NZW - 20,554 @ DFS
SYD v NWC - 14,176 @ Bluetongue
WES v SOU - 19,122 @ the SCG
CAN v MEL - 15,550 @ Canberra
Total: 139,222
Avg: 17,403
2007 - Total 98,127 Avg 16,354 (6 matches)
2006 - Total 114,633 Avg 16,376 (7 matches)
2005 - Total 120,750 Avg 17,250 (7 matches)


Round 7 (ANZAC Day weekend) - April 25-27
STG v SYD - 21,596 @ ANZ
BRI v SOU - 34,112 @ Suncorp
MAN v BUL - 15,229 @ Brookvale
NQL v MEL - 24,053 @ DFS
GCO v NZW - 25,310 @ Skilled
CRO v WES - 17,241 @ Toyota
BYES: CAN, NWC, PAR, PEN
Total: 137,541
Avg: 22,924 (6 matches)
2007 - Total 143,750 Avg 17,968 (8 matches)
2006 - Total 117,124 Avg 16,732 (7 matches)
2005 - Total 136,237 Avg 19,462 (7 matches)


City v Country - May 2
CIT v COU - 11,365 @ Wollongong
2007 - 8,149 @ Coffs
2006 - 11,423 @ Dubbo
2005 - 8,553 @ Lismore


Round 8 (City v Country weekend) - May 3 & 4
NWC v GCO - 21,280 @ EAS
PEN v PAR - 18,724 @ CUA
WES v BRI - 11,177 @ ANZ
NZW v CAN - 7,358 @ MSS
SOU v NQL - 9,818 @ ANZ
BYES: BUL, STG, SYD, MEL, MAN, CRO
Total: 68,357
Avg: 13,671 (5 matches)
2007 - Total 127,010 Avg 15,876 (8 matches)
2006 - Total 109,180 Avg 15,597 (7 matches)
2005 - Total 127,743 Avg 18,249 (7 matches)


Australia v New Zealand - May 9
AUS v NZL - 34,571 @ SCG
2007 - 35,241 @ Suncorp
2006 - 44,191 @ Suncorp
2005 - 40,317 @ Suncorp



Round 9 (Centenary Test weekend) - May 10-12
SYD v CAN - 10,257 @ SFS
BUL v PEN - 10,241 @ ANZ
NQL v CRO - 17,065 @ DFS
BRI v MAN - 27,469 @ Suncorp
PAR v STG - 16,313 @ ANZ
MEL v NWC - 10,624 @ Olympic
BYES: SOU, GCO, NZW, WES
Total: 91,969
Avg: 15,328 (6 matches)
2007 - Total 109,731 Avg 13,716 (8 matches)
2006 - Total 111,486 Avg 15,926 (7 matches)
2005 - Total 100,857 Avg 14,408 (7 matches)


Round 10 (Origin One players ineligible) - May 16-19
GCO v BUL - 22,676 @ Skilled
PAR v SYD - 16,211 @ Parramatta
CRO v BRI - 13,431 @ Toyota
MAN v NQL - 9,343 @ Bluetongue
STG v MEL - 6,881 @ ANZ
PEN v NZW - 9,450 @ CUA
NWC v WES - 20,154 @ EAS
CAN v SOU - 11,115 @ Canberra
Total: 109,261
Avg: 13,657 (8 matches)
2007 - Total 67,780 Avg 11,296 (6 matches)
2006 - Total 94,282 Avg 13,468 (7 matches)
2005 - Total 96,558 Avg 13,794 (7 matches)


State of Origin Game I - May 21
NSW v QLD - 67,620 @ ANZ
2007 - 52,498 @ Suncorp
2006 - 72,773 @ ANZ
2005 - 52,484 @ Suncorp


Round 11 - May 23-26
MAN v STG - 12,058 @ Brookvale
SOU v MEL - 8,761 @ Bluetongue
NZW v SYD - 11,922 @ MSS
WES v GCO - 17,493 @ Leichhardt
BUL v CRO - 9,289 @ ANZ
BYES: NWC, NQL, PAR, PEN, BRI, CAN
Total: 59,523
Avg: 11,904 (5 matches)
2007 - Total 131,628 Avg 16,453 (8 matches)
2006 - Total 78,497 Avg 13,082 (6 matches)
2005 - Total 85,785 Avg 14,297 (6 matches)



Round 12 - May 30-June 2
BRI v PAR - 25,564 @ Suncorp
CAN v MAN - 13,120 @ Canberra
MEL v BUL - 12,251 @ Olympic
NQL v PEN - 16,553 @ DFS
NWC v NZW - 15,489 @ EAS
SOU v STG - 12,978 @ ANZ
CRO v GCO - 8,214 @ Toyota
SYD v WES - 15,204 @ SFS
Total: 119,373
Avg: 14,921 (8 matches)
2007 - Total 110,107 Avg 13,763 (8 matches)
2006 - Total 114,809 Avg 16,401 (7 matches)
2005 - Total 103,965 Avg 14,852 (7 matches)


Round 13 - June 6-9
NZW v SOU - 13,129 @ MSS
STG v BRI - 11,432 @ WIN
BUL v NWC - 9,565 @ ANZ
PAR v CAN - 10,195 @ Parramatta
WES v NQL - 10,488 @ Campbelltown
PEN v CRO - 10,543 @ CUA
MAN v SYD - 13,842 @ Brookvale
GCO v MEL - 19,409 @ Skilled
Total: 98,603
Avg: 12,325 (8 matches)
2007 - Total 52,744 Avg 8,790 (6 matches)
2006 - Total 74,112 Avg 10,587 (7 matches)
2005 - Total 122,089 Avg 17,441 (7 matches)


State of Origin Game II - June 11
QLD v NSW - 52,416 @ Suncorp
2007 - 76,924 @ ANZ
2006 - 52,468 @ Suncorp
2005 - 82,389 @ ANZ


Round 14 - June 13-16
SYD v PEN - 9,724 @ SFS
CRO v NZW - 9,023 @ Toyota
CAN v BRI - 11,157 @ Canberra
WES v PAR - 22,107 @ ANZ
NQL v NWC - 14,234 @ DFS
BYES: BUL, STG, SOU, MEL, MAN, GCO
Total: 66,245
Avg: 13,249 (5 matches)
2007 - Total 84,976 Avg 10,622 (8 matches)
2006 - Total 70,811 Avg 10,115 (7 matches)
2005 - Total 74,079 Avg 12,346 (6 matches)


Round 15 - June 20-23
STG v PEN - 9,032 @ ANZ
BRI v WES - 27,864 @ Suncorp
BUL v CAN - 9,845 @ ANZ
MEL v NQL - 10,880 @ Olympic
NZW v MAN - 7,141 @ Mt Smart
NWC v SYD - 19,543 @ EAS
CRO v PAR - 17,547 @ Toyota
SOU v GCO - 9,827 @ ANZ
Total: 111,679
Avg: 13,960 (8 matches)
2007 - Total 115,084 Avg 14,385 (8 matches)
2006 - Total 103,879 Avg 14,839 (7 matches)
2005 - Total 107,499 Avg 15,357 (7 matches)


Round 16 - June 27-30
SYD v BUL - 9,271 @ SFS
PEN v BRI - 9,963 @ CUA
GCO v STG - 26,453 @ Skilled
MAN v NWC - 13,798 @ Bluetongue
NQL v SOU - 15,631 @ Dairy Farmers
WES v NZW - 15,027 @ Leichhardt
PAR v MEL - 12,597 @ Parramatta
CAN v CRO - 9,136 @ Canberra
Total: 111,876
Avg: 13,985 (8 matches)
2007 - Total 87,759 Avg 14,626 (6 matches)
2006 - Total 92,551 Avg 13,221 (7 matches)
2005 - Total 82,002 Avg 11,714 (7 matches)


Round 17 - July 4-7
GCO v MAN - 21,374 @ Skilled
NWC v STG - 22,348 @ EAS
PAR v PEN - 14,012 @ Parramatta
MEL v CAN - 11,719 @ Olympic
BUL v SOU - 15,662 @ ANZ
BYES: BRI, NQL, SYD, CRO, WES, NZW
Total: 85,115
Avg: 17,023 (5 matches)
2007 - Total 131,219 Avg 16,402 (8 matches)
2006 - Total 96,711 Avg 16,118 (6 matches)
2005 - Total 107,962 Avg 15,423 (7 matches)


Round 18 - July 11-14
PEN v NWC - 10,029 @ CUA
SYD v GCO - 10,762 @ SFS
NZW v NQL - 7,722 @ MSS
CRO v MAN - 18,217 @ Toyota
SOU v PAR - 17,897 @ ANZ
STG v CAN - 14,040 @ WIN
BRI v BUL - 37,683 @ Suncorp
WES v MEL - 16,653 @ Campbelltown
Total: 133,003
Avg: 16,625 (8 matches)
2007 - Total 106,698 Avg 13,337 (8 matches)
2006 - Total 88,853 Avg 12,693 (7 matches)
2005 - Total 84,506 Avg 12,072 (7 matches)


Round 19 - July 18-21
MAN v PAR - 18,970 @ Brookvale
NQL v BRI - 22,048 @ DFS
GCO v PEN - 17,759 @ Skilled
CRO v NWC - 10,112 @ Toyota
BUL v NZW - 12,973 @ ANZ
SOU v WES - 21,818 @ ANZ
CAN v SYD - 13,417 @ Canberra
MEL v STG - 9,335 @ Olympic
Total: 126,432
Avg: 15,804 (8 matches)
2007 - Total 105,780 Avg 13,222 (8 matches)
2006 - Total 88,464 Avg 12,367 (7 matches)
2005 - Total 124,318 Avg 17,759 (7 matches)



Round 20 - July 25-28
BRI v CRO - 27,905 @ Suncorp
PAR v NQL - 7,253 @ Parramatta
CAN v GCO - 8,700 @ Canberra
PEN v WES - 14,075 @ CUA
NZW v MEL - 8,700 @ MSS
NWC v SOU - 23,182 @ EAS
SYD v MAN - 22,681 @ SFS
STG v BUL - 7,802 @ ANZ
Total: 120,298
Avg: 15,037 (8 matches)
2007 - Total 122,544 Avg 15,318 (8 matches)
2006 - Total 114,900 Avg 16,414 (7 matches)
2005 - Total 130,775 Avg 18,682 (7 matches)




Round 21 - August 1-4
MAN v PEN - 7,862 @ Brookvale
MEL v GCO - 9,400 @ Olympic
CRO v STG - 18,256 @ Toyota
NQL v SYD - 14,061 @ DFS
SOU v NZW - 9,276 @ ANZ
WES v BUL - 16,121 @ ANZ
BRI v CAN - 28,103 @ Suncorp
NWC v PAR - 16,435 @ EAS
Total: 119,514
Avg: 14,939 (8 matches)
2007 - Total 142,406 Avg 17,800 (8 matches)
2006 - Total 101,838 Avg 14,548 (7 matches)
2005 - Total 125,499 Avg 17,928 (7 matches)



Round 22 - August 8-11
MAN v MEL - 18,442 @ Brookvale
STG v WES - 14,207 @ WIN
NZW v BRI - 13,007 @ Mt Smart
BUL v NQL - 8,549 @ Suncorp
CRO v SOU - 12,618 @ Toyota
CAN v PEN - 6,500 @ Canberra
SYD v PAR - 12,468 @ SFS
GCO v NWC - 15,136 @ Skilled
Total: 100,927
Avg: 12,615 (8 matches)
2007 - Total 127,908 Avg 15,988 (8 matches)
2006 - Total 97,341 Avg 13,905 (7 matches)
2005 - Total 109,904 Avg 15,700 (7 matches)



Round 23 - August 15-18
BRI v STG - 33,237 @ Suncorp
MEL v SYD - 13,335 @ Olympic
NZW v CRO - 10,417 @ Mt Smart
PEN v BUL - 7,841 @ CUA
NQL v GCO - 17,605 @ DFS
CAN v NWC - 12,206 @ Canberra
SOU v MAN - 11,114 @ ANZ
PAR v WES - 13,065 @ Parramatta
Total: 118,820
Avg: 14,853 (8 matches)
2007 - Total 130,428 Avg 16,303 (8 matches)
2006 - Total 144,953 Avg 20,707 (7 matches)
2005 - Total 143,245 Avg 20,463 (7 matches)


BELOW TOTALS DO NOT INCLUDE REP MATCHES

Season
TOTAL 2,636,602
AVERAGE 15,694 (168 matches @ 7.3 matches/rnd)
After 23 rounds in 2007 - Total 2,736,201 Avg 15,547 (176mts @ 7.65m/rnd)
After 23 rounds in 2006 - Total 2,432,599 Avg 15,299 (159mts @ 6.91m/rnd)
After 23 rounds in 2005 - Total 2,480,010 Avg 15,598 (159mts @ 6.91m/rnd)

 

[bartman]

Those season averages are all remarkably close for the past four years - all within 395 people.

Maybe that's just the level at which the game naturally sits/draws in terms of live crowds, under the current set-up with the high amount of winter night games, and Fox contract/gametimes/coverage? It would be nice if it was 20,000 average per game, but presumably the NRL/Fox arrangements are more important to those in control than getting the crowd levels slowly increasing.

 

[Knightmare]

This is what else can be done

• Less night footy - the highest drawing sports competitions in the world (AFL, NFL and EPL) have the majority of games on afternoons to get big crowds and a few "blockbuster" games at night. Look at Arsenal in the EPL - everytime they play they get a sell out of 60k+ at the Emirates on a Saturday/Sunday afternoon and get the same crowd figure for say, a Champions League or FA Cup match on a Wednesday/Tuesday night
• More advertising - most people here wouldn't know that their team is playing if it wasn't for the internet. Bombard newspapers, TV, radio etc with news about an upcoming RL match
• Have a country round where we take games to the bush and other areas such as Darwin, Cairns, Perth, Wellington, Port Moresby etc
• Cheaper tickets - with petrol prices and interest rates rising by the day, a family of four simply would not be able to go to the footy cause it would cost a fair bit. The AFL have acknowledged this and look how cheap the ticket prices are. I had a look at AFL ticket prices the other day and for some game it costed $3 for an U6 and $7 for an U16. No wonder they get such good crowds ffs
• Let kids who play RL get in for free - It would entice parents to have their kid play RL and entice parents to go to the footy with them.

OK, that's just a few suggestions but there is still a lot more the NRL can do instead of capitalising on TV ratings.

Great ideas NK but you're forgetting the one vital point:

News Ltd. wouldn't make any $$$ out of this.

So for the meantime, it's in the 'No way' basket.

 

[bazza]

Those season averages are all remarkably close for the past four years - all within 395 people.

Maybe that's just the level at which the game naturally sits/draws in terms of live crowds, under the current set-up with the high amount of winter night games, and Fox contract/gametimes/coverage? It would be nice if it was 20,000 average per game, but presumably the NRL/Fox arrangements are more important to those in control than getting the crowd levels slowly increasing.

I think they only way that we will see a decent increase without new stadiums/better transport/better scheduling/better weather is if season ticket holder numbers increase

Season ticket holders will go to games no matter what the time or weather. And if they don't go to the match, the club still has some money

 

[Brutus]

When was the last time you saw an ad on free-to-air trying to get people to the games? Rugby league's presence on free-to-air during the ad breaks is virtually non-existent.

All the ads are on Fox Sports on the cheap and preaching to the converted.

The NRL's cost minimisation strategy continues to hurt our game, while News LTD reaps the profits.

 

[bobmar28]

This is what ive thought, if the clubs are making around 100k each home game then why are ticket prices so freaking expensive.

Adults should be around the 15-20 and Children at about 8 or so, more people will turn up, i dont understand....one thing they need to address is ticket prices.

I have read a comment on this forum a few months ago that AFL kids tickets are $3, maybe that's how they get big crowds.

 

[Simo]

Hopefully it means a good crowd at the Double Header next week. Manly need the win to stay in the hunt for the minor premiership and a home final, Wests Tigers and Eels both need the win to stay in the hunt for the finals, Bulldogs... well lets hope their members turn up...

I must have missed this report, what is this double header you speak off?

 

[Day of Rockening]

I have read a comment on this forum a few months ago that AFL kids tickets are $3, maybe that's how they get big crowds.

it certainly helps

 

[Ice777]

I have read a comment on this forum a few months ago that AFL kids tickets are $3, maybe that's how they get big crowds.

It wouldn't make a great deal of difference if they were $3 or 3 times that the AFL would still get crowds. The fact is that a much higher percentage of people down here just love watching their team play live at the ground as opposed to watching them on tv. It's the way it's always been and always will be.

 

[bartman]

I must have missed this report, what is this double header you speak off?

Wests v Manly @ ANZ on Saturday 5:30pm followed by Bulldogs v Parra @ 7:30pm.

Even though it's an away game Parra Season ticket holders get in free, and a double header for the price on none (plus the teams good form) should get a few blue and gold fans there that outherwise would have just watched on Fox.

 

[NK Arsenal]

Wests v Manly @ ANZ on Saturday 5:30pm followed by Bulldogs v Parra @ 7:30pm.

Even though it's an away game Parra Season ticket holders get in free, and a double header for the price on none (plus the teams good form) should get a few blue and gold fans there that outherwise would have just watched on Fox.

Why can't the NRL do that the same for every game?

It would entice fans to travel to away games.

 

[NK Arsenal]

Great ideas NK but you're forgetting the one vital point:

News Ltd. wouldn't make any $$$ out of this.

So for the meantime, it's in the 'No way' basket.

Oh yeah forgot about that

 

[Simo]

Wests v Manly @ ANZ on Saturday 5:30pm followed by Bulldogs v Parra @ 7:30pm.

Even though it's an away game Parra Season ticket holders get in free, and a double header for the price on none (plus the teams good form) should get a few blue and gold fans there that outherwise would have just watched on Fox.

great idea, hopefully a decent crowd turns out.

 

[Timmah]

Why can't the NRL do that the same for every game?

It would entice fans to travel to away games.

Bulldogs, Tigers, Eels, Dragons and Rabbitohs STH's all get into their corresponding away matches at ANZ free of charge. Has been the case for a number of years...

 

[NK Arsenal]

so its done at ANZ aye..


do the same for every venue around the country!