2009 NSW 16s and 18s Teams

[junior fan]

1. Jacob Gagan (Parra)
2. David Nofalouma (Wests)
3. Vai Toutai (Parra) / Samsoni Langi (Dogs) / Ryan Wilson (Penrith)
4. Pat Mata'uta-Leifi (Newcastle)
5. James Roberts (Souths)
6. Corey Mc Grady (G Coast) / Blake Jones (Illawarra)
7. Sean McGuiness (Parra)
8. Tai Tuivasa (Penrith)
9. Luke Vescio (Manly)
10. Jake Townsend (Wests)
11. Reece Davidson (Cronulla)
12. James Ralphs (Illawarra)
13. Reece Reegan (Penrtih)
14. Jakiel Fuimaono (W Academy)
15. Jeremy Maa (Newcastle)
16. David Minute (Dogs)
17.

Have to throw Ryan Wilson into the mix after a dominate performance today.

 

[lizziebra]

^ In regards to the team above.

Parra are killing the comp and only 3 are in it? Same with the Bulldogs.

They aren't dominating the comp for nothing. Instead there is names from Illawarra, Wests and Penrith.

Ryan Wilson? Reece Reegan? lol.

Agree about Fuimaono, he should be in the Penrith side and show them a thing or two about go forward.

 

[junior fan]

^ In regards to the team above.

Parra are killing the comp and only 3 are in it? Same with the Bulldogs.

They aren't dominating the comp for nothing. Instead there is names from Illawarra, Wests and Penrith.

Ryan Wilson? Reece Reegan? lol.

Agree about Fuimaono, he should be in the Penrith side and show them a thing or two about go forward.

In any state team there will generally be players from bottom teams. Penrith NRL team didnt perform too well last year but Petro still made origin sometimes its easier to be a standout in an average team than share the ball and spotlight in a good team. Also if PArra are the standout how come they arent coming first? how come they drew with Illawarra? doesnt that in someway indicate that Illawarra might have someone deserving of an origin spot if they can match a team "killing the comp"? 3 is a fair representation and this isnt neceaaarily who will get picked just my opinion on what Ive seen. Why dont you post your team? Parra's pack is a pack of no real standouts a couple of year young blokes who will be there most probably next year but all are very solid and do their job for the team. Parra strength is in its backs with NSW schoolboys in most positions. Gagan is a standout and should be named HM player of the year. Vai is playing outstanding and should get a gig. Because Todd Graham has missed so many games he wont get the gig at 5/8 although might well have should he played the full season. Sean McGuiness has been the best 7 and deserves a chance.

Bulldogs will probably also get Lani Latu either in the front row or on the bench.

How can you question Wests, they are 2 points behind Parra on the table. Assuming you havent seen many of the teams play except Parra or who they play.

 

[eats2win]

Josh Murray is definitely the form half this year. He is the only half that plays at the line and through the line. Its rare find in half backs as you get hit and most wont do it.Boy they score tries off him and he controls everything that happens on the field and has great short kicking game. Dont forget Pat his right side partner they are tearing teams apart

Jacob Miller has been unbelievable this season, better defender and quicker then Murray as well

 

[footyboy7]

I think it is better for the players in the Harold Matthews vying for a spot in the NSW U16s side, because they know who the opposition is and who is also a contender for a spot on the state team.
Which leads me to my next point. I think it is hard for both selectors and players when picking a NSW U18s side as there is two comps players can be chosen from(SG ball and Toyota Cup).

Does anyone else think this is unfair? or has any opinions whatsoever on this issue?

Also NSW 16s
Gagan
Roberts
Tautai(parra) or Langi(bulldogs)
Mata'atia
Nofalouma
McGrady(if classed as NSW)
McGuinness
Tuivasa
Vescio
Fuimaono(WSAS)
11
12
13

Regan (lock maybe)
Errington
Ma'a (2cd row maybe)
Minute(2cd row Maybe)

NSW U18s
Halves-
6. Alby Kelly of course
7. Murray, Seijka, Moylan(Playing at a really high standard for Penrith this year), Adrian Sezar(bulldogs, i think thats hes name)

 

[Rubber Toes]

Shame if your a great winger these days. It seems you are deemed to be a lesser player behind the 2nd & 3rd choice fullbacks or 3rd & 4th choice centres.

NSW rep sides should be the best NSW has.

 

[fortae]

I watched Jacob Miller play on Saturday and there's no doubt he is a classy player, but it took him a long time to impose himself on the game.

St.George had lost their halfback Kyle Mallyon as well as their point scoring machine of recent times Ashley Boney before the game ... Shaye Moran, the reserve halfback, out played Miller for most of the game, before going off injured ... and Miller brought them back into the game with some clever kicking, including an on purpose kick into the goal post pads and some better options in attack.

Kyle Stanley meanwhile is steadily improving and should probably be considered for the under 18s team.

 

[junior fan]

Shame if your a great winger these days. It seems you are deemed to be a lesser player behind the 2nd & 3rd choice fullbacks or 3rd & 4th choice centres.

NSW rep sides should be the best NSW has.

Dont think it is much of an issue in HM. Not many "specialist wingers" decent wingers in these age groups usually play in the centres or fullback as most teams get light on by the time they get out wide especially considering its the first taste of rep footy and priority in strength is given to the inside positions. Different by Ball as players become more specialised.

 

[junior fan]

So we are at the last round and i'll take a stab for the HM team first. Obviously with a possible v probable match anything could happen, but one thing should be certain that Gagan is HM player of the year. Think this probably represents the table fairly well with the top 2 teams fielding 4 a peice, Manly 2, Wests 2, Penrith 2 and Newcastle probably unlucky with 1. Mata'utia just hasnt been consistent enough from my perspective to get ahead of the others chosen but again a good game in possibles v probables could change that.

1. Jacob Gagan (Parra) First player chosen outstanding season. Enjoyed the move to FB and its freedom to involve himself at the right moments.
2. David Nofalouma (Wests) scored at least one try in every match he played, strong and can find the line.
3. Samsoni Langi (Dogs) One of dogs standouts. V strong and elusive
4. Jim Stewart (Manly) Has come on in leaps and bounds this year been Manly's best for last few weeks. Again very strong with pace.
5. James Roberts (Souths) Elusive, skillful unfortunate to be in a struggling Bunnies team.
6. Troy Errington (Parra) Been a revelation since moving to six complements McGuiness and keeps the backline firing.
7. Sean McGuiness (Parra) Not many 7's around but last years NSW CHS half is the pick of them good kicking game and organiser.
8. Tai Tuivasa (Penrith) Big and Skillful some of his tries have been all strength this season others amazing skill for a big man
9. Luke Vescio (Manly) Last years NSWCCC captain is Super quick and elusive. Great service, running game and organises better than anyone around the ruck
10. Jake Townsend (Wests) Hadnt heard of him prior to season but very impressed with his toughness and go forward.
11. David Minute (Dogs) Kept going from where he left off last season another reason for Dogs great performances.
12. Jeremy Maa (Newcastle) Big and skillful. His ability to offload in the tackle is unmatched in this comp.
13. Brendan Santi (Dogs) Another of the dogs backing up for HM again but uncomprimising player who brings plenty strong runner, great defender.
14. Jakiel Fuimaono (W Academy) Should of been in Penriths team. Again very skilful for a big fella but does the hard yards to.
15. Lelani Latu (Dogs) Another tall and damaging player who has come of age in his second HM season
16. Vai Toutai (Parra) As cover for the back line this guy is a beast.
17. Reece Reegan (Penrith) Last years Oz schoolboys lock brings versatility. Plays SR, Lock also played hooker for Penrith Ball and 6 and 7 this year for the Panthers.

 

[girvie]

Possible NSW Under-18s
1 Junior Roqica Wests
2 Moses Pangai North Qld
3 Matthew Wright Cronulla
4 Dylan Farrell South Sydney
5 Nathan Massey Canterbury
6 Albert Kelly Parramatta
7 Sam Williams Canberra
8 Boyd Cordner Sydney City
9 Cameron King St George Illawarra
10 Teni Waipouri Canterbury
11 Dominic Walsh Gold Coast
12 Jordan McLean Melbourne
13 Dale Finucane Canterbury

14 Jake Finn Newcastle
15 Kilifi Tia Kilifi Penrith
16 Ben Musilino St George
17 Ethan Cook Newcastle

Have Aaron Woods and William Hopoate played at all this year?


Possible NSW Under-16s Probables
1 Jacob Gagan Parramatta
2 Brendan Heather Penrith
3 David Nofalouma Western Suburbs
4 Simon Lienisch Canberra
5 Siua Lapuaho Canterbury
6 Troy Errington Parramatta
7 Luke Brooks Balmain
8 Tai Tuivasa Penrith
9 Adam Clydsdale Newcastle
10 Zac Wedesweiler Cronulla
11 David Minute Canterbury
12 Joseph Ualesi Parramatta
13 Brendan Santi Canterbury


Possible NSW Under-16s Possibles
1 James Roberts South Sydney
2 Clinton Gutherson Manly
3 Samisoni Langi Canterbury
4 Gordon Broome North Sydney
5 Vai Toutai Parramatta
6 Jaline Graham Canterbury
7 Mitchell Johnson Central Coast
8 Solomona Laula South Sydney
9 Luke Vescio Manly
10 David Klemmer Canterbury
11 James Ralphs Illawarra
12 Mitch Green Central Coast
13 Sonny Bristow Western Suburbs

 

[junior fan]

Possible NSW Under-18s
1 Junior Roqica Wests
2 Moses Pangai North Qld
3 Matthew Wright Cronulla
4 Dylan Farrell South Sydney
5 Nathan Massey Canterbury
6 Albert Kelly Parramatta
7 Sam Williams Canberra
8 Boyd Cordner Sydney City
9 Cameron King St George Illawarra
10 Teni Waipouri Canterbury
11 Dominic Walsh Gold Coast
12 Jordan McLean Melbourne
13 Dale Finucane Canterbury

14 Jake Finn Newcastle
15 Kilifi Tia Kilifi Penrith
16 Ben Musilino St George
17 Ethan Cook Newcastle

Have Aaron Woods and William Hopoate played at all this year?


Possible NSW Under-16s Probables
1 Jacob Gagan Parramatta
2 Brendan Heather Penrith
3 David Nofalouma Western Suburbs
4 Simon Lienisch Canberra
5 Siua Lapuaho Canterbury
6 Troy Errington Parramatta
7 Corey McGrady Gold Coast
8 Tai Tuivasa Penrith
9 Adam Clydsdale Newcastle
10 Zac Wedesweiler Cronulla
11 David Minute Canterbury
12 Joseph Ualesi Parramatta
13 Brendan Santi Canterbury


Possible NSW Under-16s Possibles
1 James Roberts South Sydney
2 Clinton Gutherson Manly
3 Samisoni Langi Canterbury
4 Gordon Broome North Sydney
5 Vai Toutai Parramatta
6 Jaline Graham Canterbury
7 Luke Brooks Balmain
8 Solomona Laula South Sydney
9 Luke Vescio Manly
10 David Klemmer Canterbury
11 James Ralphs Illawarra
12 Mitch Green Central Coast
13 Sonny Bristow Western Suburbs

Think you might find as I did in an earlier post that McGrady is a QLDer. He played for QLD in OZ schoolboys last year.

To answer your question Hoppa and Woods havent played yet. Hoppa has a shoulder injury and will be back soon not too sure bout Woods.

 

[girvie]

Think you might find as I did in an earlier post that McGrady is a QLDer. He played for QLD in OZ schoolboys last year.

To answer your question Hoppa and Woods havent played yet. Hoppa has a shoulder injury and will be back soon not too sure bout Woods.

Thanks. I edited the teams.

 

[Old Faithful]

These things are always difficult since you only see half the teams, and there is a natural bias to the teams higher in the ladder. There were many very very good players but in the past two weeks when we (Roosters) have played Parramatta in HM the absolute standout was Vai Toutai - he was extremely hard to handle, ran good lines, and had a controlled aggression about him - a couple of the other Parra lads are good and big but liable to fly off the handle. Seen lots of good backs/full backs and forwards but no standout #9's at all.

 

[juuniorfan]

Possible NSW Under-18s
1 Junior Roqica Wests
2 Moses Pangai North Qld
3 Matthew Wright Cronulla
4 Dylan Farrell South Sydney
5 Nathan Massey Canterbury
6 Albert Kelly Parramatta
7 Sam Williams Canberra
8 Boyd Cordner Sydney City
9 Cameron King St George Illawarra
10 Teni Waipouri Canterbury
11 Dominic Walsh Gold Coast
12 Jordan McLean Melbourne
13 Dale Finucane Canterbury

14 Jake Finn Newcastle
15 Kilifi Tia Kilifi Penrith
16 Ben Musilino St George
17 Ethan Cook Newcastle

Have Aaron Woods and William Hopoate played at all this year?

Boyd Cordner is a backrower and I think Teni is a Kiwi
Wow i totally forgot the likes of Dylan Farrel Sam Williams and Moses Pangai are still eligible for 18s

My side would be

1 Nathan massey
2 Ratu Tagive/William Hopoate
3 Matthew Wright
4 Junior Rogica
5 Moses Pangai
6 Albert Kelly
7 Josh Murray/Sam Williams/Jacob Miller/Liam Ayoub
8 Aaron Woods
9 Cameron King
10 Jake Finn
11 Boyd Cordner
12 Dominic Walsh
13 Dale Finucane

14 Ethan Cook
15 Jarrod Thompson
16 Rodney Moefaauo
17 Teni Waipouri (simply put him and rodney cause i cant think of any other frowers deserving of selection)

Geez there is alot of backrowers and no front rowers

 

[fortae]

I'm sticking with my team from March ... the game is exactly two months away and plenty can happen. It was mentioned last night that Hopoate will be back in the 20s this week. He'll be the fullback.

1. William Hopoate
2. Nathan Massey
3. Matthew Wright
4. Junior Roqica
5. Ratu Tagive

6. Albert Kelly
7. Joshua Murray

13. Chris Binge
12. Boyd Cordner
11. Jarrod Thompson
10. Aaron Woods
9. Cameron King
8. Jake Finn

14. Jack Stockwell
15. Moses Pangai
16. Dominic Walsh
17. Ben Picker

Prop is my main question mark. I don't know what's happening with Woods ... and Stockwell is only a rough chance. It may be someone that plays more under 20s in the next number of weeks.

Josh Ailaomai is the best under 18s prop in the under 20s at the moment but I'm guessing he's a NZer. I noticed Jordan McLean played well for Melbourne but I think he's more of a backrower.

Players like Dylan Farrell, Sam Williams, Kyle Stanley, Stuart Mills (injured?) may get a kick along by playing in the under 20s.

 

[juuniorfan]

Quote:
Originally Posted by fortae
1. William Hopoate
2. Nathan Massey
3. Matthew Wright
4. Junior Roqica
5. Ratu Tagive

6. Albert Kelly
7. Joshua Murray

13. Chris Binge
12. Boyd Cordner
11. Jarrod Thompson
10. Aaron Woods
9. Cameron King
8. Jake Finn

14. Jack Stockwell
15. Moses Pangai
16. Dominic Walsh
17. Ben Picker

Nathan Massey will get fullback spot before Hopoate. And I dont think Ratu Tagive will be around to much longer after SG ball.. Injuries.

Ethan cook will get picked.

 

[fortae]

Nathan Massey will get fullback spot before Hopoate. And I dont think Ratu Tagive will be around to much longer after SG ball.. Injuries.

Ethan cook will get picked.

Maybe, but there's no point changing the team with four or five weeks of football until the team is selected. That's going on last year selection date.

Hopoate will spend most of that time in the under 20s, which is an advantage.

 

[juuniorfan]

Maybe, but there's no point changing the team with four or five weeks of football until the team is selected. That's going on last year selection date.

Hopoate will spend most of that time in the under 20s, which is an advantage.

Well Jamal Idris spent most of last year up to selection playing twenties and didnt get picked.. So i dont think it makes much of a difference.. Plus considering sg ball will only last one week or two for the dogs, I think Nathan Massey will be playing 20's

 

[fortae]

Well Jamal Idris spent most of last year up to selection playing twenties and didnt get picked.. So i dont think it makes much of a difference.. Plus considering sg ball will only last one week or two for the dogs, I think Nathan Massey will be playing 20's

Idris played 6 under 20s games before selection ... Dugan and Croker played 7 games. You can't take much out of that. Idris was playing well beforehand, but last year was the first year Idris really started to stand out for rep teams with his Schoolboys selection. Dugan (ACT) and Croker (Australian Schoolboys) had been there before. You can say the same for Mata'utia and Wright. That's also a positive for Massey, because he was there last year.

Anyway I think these other elements will play a part ... enough that I wouldn't change my team right now.

 

[richies]

what about lachlan burr ?
good second rower with an offload for the dogs