2012 NSW soo side..

[Joker's Wild]

Beau Scott is a must imo. His defence in the middle was sorely missed in game 3 last series and I believe he provides good balance when combined with guys like Lewis, Watmough and Bird

Im not sold on Galloway. I think he could easily be replaced by Douglas, Snowden or even Bailey. I think bull has unfinished business in SOO

 

[typicalfan]

He was pretty bad in Game 3 2010.

With that said, he's never stood out in this arena either and as RWB (awesome initials - but for different reasons) said if the front row is so bad how is it that the likes of Beau Scott, Greg Bird, Paul Gallen & Anthony Watmough have played under the same backrow and stood up.

Because they are also great backrowers. Luke Lewis played pretty impressively game 2 last year alongside these backrowers. I don't think there is any doubt that QLD hold a significant edge up front. That could change if Mannah and Merrin develop well but they are still very young.

I suppose Game 2 last year really is forgotten about.

 

[Fordy20]

Beau Scott is a must imo. His defence in the middle was sorely missed in game 3 last series and I believe he provides good balance when combined with guys like Lewis, Watmough and Bird

Im not sold on Galloway. I think he could easily be replaced by Douglas, Snowden or even Bailey. I think bull has unfinished business in SOO

Fair call on Beau Scott. His defence and aggression is why he's in my primary team list.

Galloway hasn't really been given an opportunity to impress at SOO and he deserves more than 10 minutes before being tossed onto the Origin scrap heap, particularly since blokes like Cross, Kite, White, Merrin, Weyman and Poore (who replaced Galloway after he was injured in 2010) have all had more game time before being shown the door. If Galloway had been given a decent run and shown nothing, I would probably replace him with Luke Douglas, Aiden Tolman or Tim Grant. I'd be leaning more toward Luke Douglas given how consistent he's been at club level for so long.

 

[RHCP]

These are the players that I think should be certainties:

Jarryd Hayne
Aku Uate
Todd Carney
Mitchell Pearce
Paul Gallen
Tom Learoyd-Lahrs
Beau Scott
Greg Bird
Anthony Watmough
Luke Lewis

I wholeheartedly agree on everybody except Todd Carney.

 

[Big Pete]

I've already addressed game 2 and while he did a couple of good things, it wasn't up to his standards.

 

[Springs]

Beau Scott is average. Don't see how he should be considered a certainty.

 

[timka4]

I'm not sure on Galloway's stats, but too me in the 4nations this year he was solid at best. I guess we don't have many choices. I wouldn't be against his selection for the first couple of games, but if he doesn't fire for those 2 games, I'd swap him out. If Douglas has a great start at the Titans I wouldn't really be hesitating to be putting him in, he reminds me a bit of Matt Scott, but longer minutes.

 

[Springs]

hindmarsh??!!!

Yep. If people include average players like Beau Scott and considering less than average players like Creagh and Waterhouse have been first choice picks before then I'm going to be bias too.

And then comes Greg Bird, a player who will make mistakes all game, miss what was it? 9 tackles in a game?! Start fights and sook about every decision against him then try and milk a penalty in every tackle with that stupid face he has which somehow equates to 'aggression', and then he makes 1 line break and people call him our best player of the last few years. Not to mention his club form has been average as well. He shouldn't be anywhere near the side, f**k he shouldn't even be in the game.

I could just imagine the outcry if players like Harrison, Myles and Johnson were ever picked for NSW. Workhorses that do nothing special but never give up, and in Origin they play better than any of our big attacking backrowers like Creagh, Watmough, Bird, Stewart etc have ever played.

 

[Springs]

If possible we could have a good enough prop rotation to put Gallen back at lock where he would be more effective.

Leoroyd-Lahrs, Mannah, Sims, Galloway and Tolman could all do a good enough job in my opinion. That's if they get more than 10 minutes like Stuart stupidly gave some of them last time.

 

[Allstar Knights]

Beau Scott is a much better Origin player than Hindmarsh - Runs harder, tackles harder and puts in 10x more aggression.

Hindmarsh has a higher workrate, but what does he offer in attack? Nothing. He's is a good club player, maybe better than Scott even, but he's just not what NSW need. Yes I know it's not all about attack, but Scott is also a brilliant defender.

Scott is a certainty for mine. He done an outstanding job in Game 2. He was putting all sorts of pressure on the QLD halves and stopping them getting it to their outside backs. He's not really known for his attack, but he was giving his all in his hitups and defended brilliantly.

 

[typicalfan]

I've already addressed game 2 and while he did a couple of good things, it wasn't up to his standards.

He was the third best on field behind Gallen and Scott. The moment he came on the field he made a difference. Maybe you should watch it again.

 

[timka4]

Yep. If people include average players like Beau Scott and considering less than average players like Creagh and Waterhouse have been first choice picks before then I'm going to be bias too.

And then comes Greg Bird, a player who will make mistakes all game, miss what was it? 9 tackles in a game?! Start fights and sook about every decision against him then try and milk a penalty in every tackle with that stupid face he has which somehow equates to 'aggression', and then he makes 1 line break and people call him our best player of the last few years. Not to mention his club form has been average as well. He shouldn't be anywhere near the side, f**k he shouldn't even be in the game.

I could just imagine the outcry if players like Harrison, Myles and Johnson were ever picked for NSW. Workhorses that do nothing special but never give up, and in Origin they play better than any of our big attacking backrowers like Creagh, Watmough, Bird, Stewart etc have ever played.

Watmough and Bird prove every year that they are great players for NSW. I didn't seem to notice all of these errors and penalties from Bird when I recently watched the series. Watmough is prone to a mistake, but god there will always be mistakes made by forwards.
Watmough does do the hard work, he looks abit flashy but that's just the way he runs. Look at his stats, I'm pretty sure he made more metres then Myles and Harrison starting from the bench. He always makes a good 20-30 tackles as well.

Bird to me is a mixture between hard work and a ball player. He has a great balance between the two skill sets, much like Lewis.

 

[jbl31649]

Choc does have errors, but he makes up for it. He is getting better a controlling those mistakes. The best thing Ricky can do is clearly state his role.

We Choc get frustrated, he starts getting involved in the attack to much and at the wrong time.

Both him and Bird have great leg strength seems find them busting tackles more then some of the bigger blokes.

In saying that Beau Scott should be in the side, you always need a defensive work horse, especially at the start.

My starters:
Scott, Lewis, Bird

First rotation:
Scott, Bird for the Manly combo of Choc and Stewart.

Keep Lewis out there the whole match.

Gallen and TLL starting Props
Tariq and Galloway/Mannah on the rotation. Thats with Gidley at Hooker, Chances are he'll be Captain Bench again, so we'll have to lose a forward again.

 

[THE CHAMP]

Yep. If people include average players like Beau Scott and considering less than average players like Creagh and Waterhouse have been first choice picks before then I'm going to be bias too.

And then comes Greg Bird, a player who will make mistakes all game, miss what was it? 9 tackles in a game?! Start fights and sook about every decision against him then try and milk a penalty in every tackle with that stupid face he has which somehow equates to 'aggression', and then he makes 1 line break and people call him our best player of the last few years. Not to mention his club form has been average as well. He shouldn't be anywhere near the side, f**k he shouldn't even be in the game.

I could just imagine the outcry if players like Harrison, Myles and Johnson were ever picked for NSW. Workhorses that do nothing special but never give up, and in Origin they play better than any of our big attacking backrowers like Creagh, Watmough, Bird, Stewart etc have ever played.

Well shit...........this is a great response. I think you know as well as i do there is no chance of Hindy getting picked tho. The point you make in your last paragraph is something ive been trying to explain to some other much less intelligent posters. Maybe you have a better chance.

Nsw may have a better backrow on paper but once the game has kicked off this has been proven to be incorrect over the last few series. This is a fact, those who disagree are docile, geniused or a combination of the two.

 

[THE CHAMP]

Choc does have errors, but he makes up for it. He is getting better a controlling those mistakes. The best thing Ricky can do is clearly state his role.

We Choc get frustrated, he starts getting involved in the attack to much and at the wrong time.

Both him and Bird have great leg strength seems find them busting tackles more then some of the bigger blokes.

In saying that Beau Scott should be in the side, you always need a defensive work horse, especially at the start.

My starters:
Scott, Lewis, Bird

First rotation:
Scott, Bird for the Manly combo of Choc and Stewart.

Keep Lewis out there the whole match.

Gallen and TLL starting Props
Tariq and Galloway/Mannah on the rotation. Thats with Gidley at Hooker, Chances are he'll be Captain Bench again, so we'll have to lose a forward again.

Hard to argue with any of this. Maybe just i little on the small side. No real hit up specialists among them. What im talking about is hard straight running which is required of backrowers in SOO. Not so much in club football.

 

[Allstar Knights]

Hard to argue with any of this. Maybe just i little on the small side. No real hit up specialists among them. What im talking about is hard straight running which is required of backrowers in SOO. Not so much in club football.

Watmough runs harder than most forwards in the game ffs.

Bird and Scott are the same when they pull on a blues jersey ...

Stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[RecordBreakingMaroons.]

I'm entirely happy for Scott to be in the NSW team.He has (admittedly amongst many other of his team-mates) kept the Maroons in the winners box for 2011.

Another great asset for QLD.I hope Stuart chooses him as a must have inclusion.

 

[Hutty1986]

I'm entirely happy for Scott to be in the NSW team.He has (admittedly amongst many other of his team-mates) kept the Maroons in the winners box for 2011.

Another great asset for QLD.I hope Stuart chooses him as a must have inclusion.

:lol::lol: Some of these posts are just priceless

 

[THE CHAMP]

Watmough runs harder than most forwards in the game ffs.

Bird and Scott are the same when they pull on a blues jersey ...

Stop embarrassing yourself.

Maybe i need to clarify. What i mean by straight is hard and straight at the opposition forwards not the sideline followed by a step and meek surrender in the tackle.
Watmough does this consistently.

 

[THE CHAMP]

:lol::lol: Some of these posts are just priceless

Exactly shitty1986 "watmough runs harder than most forwards in the game" is priceless. So is all the Lewis and Scott loving.