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2013/14 UEFA Champions League

Helmet Man

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Jeezus surely Modric has to be the one of the world's best midfielder this season. He just such an unbelievable player. What a performance by him.
 

saint.nick

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For a moment there I thought you were replying to me and I'm like 'wtf?' - then I realised we posted at the same time and you were replying to twizzle :lol:

Well at least you didn't have to get into another debate about whether English is your second language or not...
 
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Agreed. All Atletico need to do is score and Chelsea will be up against it. They won't know what to do when forced to move away from 10-0-0
 

saint.nick

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Another case of Chelsea fans just buying into Mourinho balls deep, yet they probably don't even know what they're buying into sometimes :lol: Chelsea need a win, Atletico need a draw (as long as it's not scoreless)...but nah, that's still the optimum result- Chelsea's win! Well done :sarcasm:
 
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Agreed. All Atletico need to do is score and Chelsea will be up against it. They won't know what to do when forced to move away from 10-0-0

Typical Mourinho really. The last time one of his teams played real football against equal opposition he got slaughtered 5-0
 
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Haffa

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:lol: What is "real football" We're trying to get to the final of the Champions League. 0-0 in Madrid means we might yet do so.

Our most creative player (Hazard) was injured. So was our most in-form goal-scorer (Eto'o). Our most penetrative full-back (Ivanovic) was suspended. In addition to this, we lost our first-choice goalkeeper after 18 minutes, and our captain and central defender after 70.
Meanwhile, we found ourselves playing away from home against the best team in Spain, who have, by way of attacking options, Diego Costa and Raul Garcia and who, when that doesn't work, can call on David Villa as a sub. It seems to me entirely reasonable in these circumstances (and not forgetting that this is a tie designed to take place over at least 180 minutes, with a further serving at Stamford Bridge still to come) to send out a team to stifle the obvious threat.

We left with the honour of having achieved something that only Real Madrid and Barcelona have managed this season: a clean sheet against Atletico Madrid.
 

Haffa

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Agreed. All Atletico need to do is score and Chelsea will be up against it. They won't know what to do when forced to move away from 10-0-0
Like last round against PSG? Or the time before against Gala? Were they got the result at home. How exactly did the famous barca go last round?
 

saint.nick

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:lol: What is "real football" We're trying to get to the final of the Champions League. 0-0 in Madrid means we might yet do so.

Our most creative player (Hazard) was injured. So was our most in-form goal-scorer (Eto'o). Our most penetrative full-back (Ivanovic) was suspended. In addition to this, we lost our first-choice goalkeeper after 18 minutes, and our captain and central defender after 70.
Meanwhile, we found ourselves playing away from home against the best team in Spain, who have, by way of attacking options, Diego Costa and Raul Garcia and who, when that doesn't work, can call on David Villa as a sub. It seems to me entirely reasonable in these circumstances (and not forgetting that this is a tie designed to take place over at least 180 minutes, with a further serving at Stamford Bridge still to come) to send out a team to stifle the obvious threat.

We left with the honour of having achieved something that only Real Madrid and Barcelona have managed this season: a clean sheet against Atletico Madrid.

You'd have a point about what an 'honour' it is if it weren't one leg of a two leg tie, and that it then earnt you a league point. It hasn't. Despite all the injuries you braved in the first leg and etc, the fact is Chelsea go into the second leg a little disadvantaged, despite being at home.
You'd have a much better argument however if you still managed to nab an away goal that you can now just sit back and defend at home, while not really calling on that supposed stifled attacked. But that would have been okay, because again, you have an away goal.

Of course, your ability to make the champions league final from here is still very possible, but IMO it's even more possible for Atletico. You speak about the great attacking options they have, and if you now put that up against your weakened attack at the Bridge, we know who is more likely to score. Not only that, Atletico have a very formidable defence at least on par with yours.

All I'm trying to say is that getting a 0-0 result in the away leg is not a 'win', no matter how Chelsea fans and Mourinho will try to spin it. All it does is leave open two ways for Ateltico's stronger attack to win the tie, while it only leaves one avenue for Chelsea, apart from going to penalties.
 

Jimbo

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You'd have a much better argument however if you still managed to nab an away goal that you can now just sit back and defend at home

After which you'd probably criticise Chelsea for playing defensively...

All I'm trying to say is that getting a 0-0 result in the away leg is not a 'win', no matter how Chelsea fans and Mourinho will try to spin it. All it does is leave open two ways for Ateltico's stronger attack to win the tie, while it only leaves one avenue for Chelsea, apart from going to penalties.

I don't recall saying that it was a win

I recall saying it was 'job done'

i.e. objectives for Leg 1 have been met
 

saint.nick

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'Job done' sounds like,
'Yes! This is what we wanted! Advantage Chelsea!'
If you met your objective, then it's a pretty shit and negative objective if you ask me.

You have no evidence I'd criticise Chelsea for that, otherwise, please show me.

Okay Haffa, tell me why you are not at least a bit disadvantaged. And please explain why drawing 0-0 in the away leg is a better result for Chelsea. Atletico now have a chance to score an away goal, you don't.
 

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