2013 Bundy Cup

[Ram Man]

Very strange that these 2 players wouldnt aim to play in a stronger competition, with both been very capable, especially with Groom aiming to play for Fiji at the World Cup and enjoying a fair amount of success with Asquith over the last 2 seasons.
Money talks!
Valley will blitz the Manly A Grade comp, going to be a very weak competition it seems

Dont really think it matters where Groomy plays I am reasonbly certain there are no better Fijian halfbacks out there and lets face it, a stronger comp means tougher games and more risk of injury. Stevens is a bit hit and miss for me having played against him for a few years, but Groom can still have a heavy influence on a game.

Manly A Grade is in deep trouble as I have said many times and it aint getting any better!

 

[Rugby League 2010]

With those sort of players leaving cabra i highly doubt it would be the same team as last year. Those are some big losses for cabra. Roland do you know the ins and outs for all bundy teams?

Some big losses for Cabra ??????

 

[milton]

joker or ram man do you know the final make up of teams in the manly comp this year

 

[Roland]

Blacktown Workers

Blacktown have targeted mainly younger players from other Penrith A Grade sides together with a couple of experienced players.

Gains

Zoram Watene (wests Magpies), Blake McLean (BNRU), Silippi Tuigmala (Auburn), Eddie To'o, Todd Sartor, Luke McKenna (St Clair), Josh Allison, Peter Ngaulife (Quakers Hill), Paul Lolesio (St Marys), Lota Fiaalii (Colyton)

Losses

Billy King, Robbie Mate (Mounties), Jake Lewis (Cabra)

 

[Ram Man]

joker or ram man do you know the final make up of teams in the manly comp this year

If past seasons are anything to go by, which is a given with this competition and how it is run, you will not know the final make up of the comp until probably a week before the season starts. They couldnt even put out a draw last season...it as a six team comp and we were basically told week to week who we were playing.
Add to that they made some last minute decisions last year about 3 days before the comp started regarding the make up of the competition. Avalon were slated to play A Grade last year but at the last minute, they were put into the reserve grade competition and acted as reserves for Manly Cove.

 

[Roland]

Wenty Sydney Shield (plus Francis Tuigmala, Nathan Waters, Brent Rae Miller, Ben Taia and Matthew Place) beat Parra NYC 5 tries to 3.

In the mixed grade trial Mounties beat Wenty 30-20. Tuigmala, Waters and a couple others backed up for this game.

 

[Roland]

Wenty

Gains

Francis Tuigmala, Marc Russell (Balamain Ryde Eastwood), Karl Filiga (St Johns) and Brent Rae Miller and Ben Taia are back after a few years away.

Losses

Brad Lupi (North Sydney), Lancen Joudo (Mounties)

 

[Stagger eel]

Wenty Sydney Shield (plus Francis Tuigmala, Nathan Waters, Brent Rae Miller, Ben Taia and Matthew Place) beat Parra NYC 5 tries to 3.

In the mixed grade trial Mounties beat Wenty 30-20. Tuigmala, Waters and a couple others backed up for this game.

Nathan or brendon waters?? ...

If you watched the game who were the standouts?

 

[Roland]

Nathan or brendon waters?? ...

If you watched the game who were the standouts?

Yeah thats a blooper, Brendon for Wenty, Nathan for Tigers.

Tuigmala went well in the first game and that would be expected.

In the second game I could identify a lot of the Mounties but besides Tuigmala and Waters the only wenty players I knew were Danny Howard, Matt Hunt and Charlie Herekotukukuku, so a little hard to pick out the standouts.

 

[Stagger eel]

no worries mate..thanks for your help anyway

 

[Roland]

The Bulldogs beat Newtown 36-14 today at Belmore after leading 22-4 at half time. If the team lists were correct the Bulldogs had their second tier players on in the first half and 12 regular NRL players in the second half.

On the other hand there were 10 that have played for Cabra on for Newtown in the second half. So well done Cabra a 14-10 loss to the Bulldogs NRL is not a bad result.

 

[Roland]

The Bulldogs beat Newtown 36-14 today at Belmore after leading 22-4 at half time. If the team lists were correct the Bulldogs had their second tier players on in the first half and 12 regular NRL players in the second half.

On the other hand there were 10 that have played for Cabra on for Newtown in the second half. So well done Cabra a 14-10 loss to the Bulldogs NRL is not a bad result.

Ha Ha Just checked the Newtown site - League Unlimited had the teams around the wrong way, so Cabra lost 22-4 to the Bulldogs State Cup team in the first half.

 

[Roland]

ROUND 1
APRIL - 5th, 6th, 7th
Wentworthville
v
Mounties

​

Cabramatta
v
Guildford

Auburn
v
Western Suburbs
Windsor
v
Kingsgrove

​

The Entrance
v
Burwood/Nth Ryde
Blacktown
v
Asquith

​

 

[Roland]

Western Suburbs and their history in the Metropolitan Cup



When Western Suburbs run onto the field for their first match in the Ron Massey Cup in 2013, they will become only the second club to have played in all 3 levels of senior NSWRL competitions (the other being Newtown).

The Magpies have played at the elite level - NSWRL 1908-1994, ARL 1995-1997, NRL 1998-99, second tier level - NSWRL First Division 2000-2002, NSWRL Premier League 2003-2007, NSW Cup 2008-2012 and the third tier level - Metropolitan Cup 1990-92, 1998-2000, Ron Massey Cup 2013 -

This is not the first time that Western Suburbs have played at the third tier level. The Metropolitan Cup was revived in 1990 primarily to cater for the needs of the larger junior clubs such as Ryde-Eastwood, Wentworthville etc. A team from Western Suburbs also entered a team and they played all home matches at Orana Park (now Campbelltown Stadium) and were the only Sydney district football club to do so (Newtown joined the Metropolitan Cup in 1991).

Wests first coach in 1990 was a true Wests man, John Jacobs who coached junior reps and eventually reserve grade for Wests in the mid 1980's under Ken Gentle. Players such as Andrew Willis and Bronko Djura played for Wests that year as did future Western Suburbs NSW Cup trainer, Darren Moon.

In 1991 & 1992 the side was captained by another great Wests man, Alan Fallah who also did the coaching alongisde the fearless John Bilbija. In 1992, the team also had the legendary Trevor Cogger playing for them.

Whilst the sides were competitive, they could not compete against the big money spending clubs such as Ryde-Eastwood, Wentworthville, Guildford and the likes and at times struggled. The team gave young locals an opportunity to play at a higher level with the chance to push for selection for higher honours such as reserve grade or even first grade down the track.

After 1992, Wests pulled out of the competition however in 1998 they would return.

In 1998, a Western Suburbs team from the old district entered a team in the Metropolitan Cup and played all their home games at Concord Oval. The side was funded by Wests Ashfield and acted as a feeder club to the Western Suburbs side in the newly established NSW First Division competition. Wests coach in 1998 and 99 was former Magpie first grader and lower grade coach, Brian Cook with another former Magpie first grader, Mick Pinkerton was assistant. In 2000 yet another former Magpie first grader, Mick Liubinskas took over as first grade coach.

Again, Wests struggled in the years 1998-2000 due to being unable to compete against the bigger spending clubs such as Ryde-Eastwood (who ironically had used Lidcombe Oval as their home ground with the competition began) and eventually funding ceased after the 2000 season and Wests dropped out of the competition (which later became the Jim Beam Cup and Bundaberg Red Cup).

In 2013, Western Suburbs will be again coached by a former Magpie player, Leo Epifania who is no stranger to the competition having played in the inaugural Metropolitan Cup season in 1990 for the now defunct Bankstown Greyhounds (their home ground being adjacent to the Greyhound Social Club at Yagoona) - a side coach by former Western Suburbs first grade coach in 1986-87, Steve Ghosn and Guildford.

 

[Roland]

Here is the full draw - extracted from the Wests site

ROUND 1 APRIL - 5th, 6th, 7th
Wentworthville v Mounties
Cabramatta v Guildford
Auburn v Western Suburbs
Windsor v Kingsgrove
Blacktown v Asquith
The Entrance v Burwood/Nth Ryde

ROUND 2 APRIL - 12th, 13th, 14th
Mounties v Burwood/Nth Ryde
Asquith v The Entrance
Blacktown v Kingsgrove
Wests Magpies v Windsor
Guildford v Auburn
Wentworthville v Cabramatta

ROUND 3 APRIL - 19th, 20th, 21st
Mounties v Cabramatta
Wentworthville v Auburn
Windsor v Guildford
Blacktown v Wests Magpies
The Entrance v Kingsgrove
Burwood Nth Ryde v Asquith

ROUND 4 APRIL - 26th, 27th, 28th
Mounties v Asquith
Kingsgrove v Burwood Nth Ryde
Wests Magpies v The Entrance
Guildford v Blacktown
Windsor v Wentworthville
Cabramatta v Auburn

ROUND 5 MAY - 3rd, 4th, 5th
Auburn v Mounties
Windsor v Cabramatta
Blacktown v Wentworthville
The Entrance v Guildford
Burwood v Wests Magpies
Asquith v Kingsgrove

ROUND 6 MAY - 10th, 11th, 12th
Kingsgrove v Mounties
Wests Magpies v Asquith
Guildford v Burwood Nth Ryde
The Entrance v Wentworthville
Cabramatta v Blacktown
Auburn v Windsor

ROUND 7 MAY - 17th, 18th, 19th
Mounties v Windsor
Blacktown v Auburn
The Entrance v Cabramatta
Burwood Nth Ryde v Wentworthville
Asquith v Guildford
Kingsgrove v Wests Magpies

ROUND 8 MAY - 24th, 25th, 26th
Mounties v Wests Magpies
Guildford v Kingsgrove
Wentworthville v Asquith
Cabramatta v Burwood Nth Ryde
Auburn v The Entrance
Blacktown v Windsor

ROUND 9 MAY-JUNE - 31st, 1st, 2nd
Blacktown v Mounties
The Entrance v Windsor
Burwood Nth Ryde v Auburn
Asquith v Cabramatta
Kingsgrove v Wentworthville
Wests Magpies v Guildford

ROUND 10 JUNE - 7th, 8th, 9th
Guildford v Mounties
Wentworthville v Wests Magpies
Cabramatta v Kingsgrove
Auburn v Asquith
Windsor v Burwood Nth Ryde
Blacktown v The Entrance

ROUND 11 JUNE - 14th, 15th, 16th
The Entrance v Mounties
Burwood Nth Ryde v Blacktown
Windsor v Asquith
Kingsgrove v Auburn
Wests Magpies v Cabramatta
Guildford v Wentworthville

ROUND 12 JUNE - 21st, 22nd, 23rd
Mounties v Wentworthville
Guildford v Cabramatta
Wests Magpies v Auburn
Kingsgrove v Windsor
Asquith v Blacktown
Burwood/Nth Ryde v The Entrance

ROUND 13 JUNE - 28th, 29th, 30th
Burwood/Nth Ryde v Mounties
The Entrance v Asquith
Kingsgrove v Blacktown
Windsor v Western Suburbs
Auburn v Guildford
Cabramatta v Wentworthville

ROUND 14 JULY - 5th, 6th, 7th
Cabramatta v Mounties
Auburn v Wentworthville
Guildford v Windsor
Wests Magpies v Blacktown
Kingsgrove v The Entrance
Asquith v Burwood Nth Ryde

ROUND 15 JULY - 12th, 13th, 14th
Asquith v Mounties
Burwood Nth Ryde v Kingsgrove
The Entrance v Wests Magpies
Blacktown v Guildford
Wentworthville v Windsor
Auburn v Cabramatta

ROUND 16 JULY - 19th, 20th, 21st
Mounties v Auburn
Cabramatta v Windsor
Wentworthville v Blacktown
Guildford v The Entrance
Wests Magpies v Burwood Nth Ryde
Kingsgrove v Asquith

ROUND 17 JULY - 26th, 27th, 28th
Mounties v Kingsgrove
Asquith v Wests Magpies
Burwood Nth Ryde v Guildford
Wentworthville v The Entrance
Blacktown v Cabramatta
Windsor v Auburn

ROUND 18 AUGUST - 2nd, 3rd, 4th
Windsor v Mounties
Auburn v Blacktown
Cabramatta v The Entrance
Wentworthville v Burwood Nth Ryde
Guildford v Asquith
Wests Magpies v Kingsgrove

ROUND 19 AUGUST - 9th, 10th, 11th
Wests Magpies v Mounties
Kingsgrove v Guildford
Asquith v Wentworthville
Burwood Nth Ryde v Cabramatta
The Entrance v Auburn
Windsor v Blacktown

ROUND 20 AUGUST - 16th, 17th, 18th
Mounties v Kingsgrove
Windsor v The Entrance
Auburn v Burwood Nth Ryde
Cabramatta v Asquith
Wentworthville v Blacktown
Guildford v Wests Magpies

ROUND 21 AUGUST - 23rd, 24th, 25th
Mounties v Guildford
Wests Magpies v Wentworthville
Kingsgrove v Cabramatta
Asquith v Auburn
Burwood Nth Ryde v Windsor
The Entrance v Blacktown

ROUND 22 AUGUST-SEPTEMBER - 30th, 31st, 1st
Mounties v The Entrance
Blacktown v Burwood Nth Ryde
Asquith v Windsor
Auburn v Kingsgrove
Cabramatta v Wests Magpies
Wentworthville v Guildford

FINALS WEEK ONE SEPTEMBER - 6th, 7th, 8th

FINALS WEEK TWO SEPTEMBER - 13th, 14th, 15th

FINALS WEEK THREE SEPTEMBER - 20th, 21st, 22nd

GRAND FINAL SEPTEMBER 27th, 28th, 29th

 

[Scott Gourley's Lovechild]

Are Wests playing out of Campbelltown, Ashfield, or somewhere else?

 

[Roland]

I believe that Wests are trying to align some games with Wests Tigers at Campbelltown but other games may be played at their training base in Warwick Farm, not far from Cabra.

 

[st george dragons]

good to see the draw up for the season. Good to see the Magpies back in their own entity.

Also got a question on home grounds - where will the Kingsgrove Colts be playing at? Will it be at Beverly Hills Park? And will they play a game or two at Hurstville Oval (i think that's what happend in 2011)?

 

[Sydney Knight]

good to see the draw up for the season. Good to see the Magpies back in their own entity.

Also got a question on home grounds - where will the Kingsgrove Colts be playing at? Will it be at Beverly Hills Park? And will they play a game or two at Hurstville Oval (i think that's what happend in 2011)?

Hope they can play somewhere other than Beverley Hills Park. That is not even fit for u/6s

 

[Shrek]

Hope they can play somewhere other than Beverley Hills Park. That is not even fit for u/6s

Agreed, went to watch a game last year and the field was disguisting. I dont know how they even let games be played there. Hopefully they do something bout it this year. Also hope wests play their games out at campbelltown stadium. Looking forward to seeing some cracking games this year.