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2015 ODI WORLD CUP discussion thread

hineyrulz

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They had to take the gamble on Harry, it's a World Cup at home. Derpaty and Maxderrrrrrp as the spinning options. Oh dear!!
 

Twizzle

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Harry isn't fit atm but he'd probabaly be OK soon enough, like a week or so.

His knee is f**ked and its down to bone on bone and no cartilage, so at the end of a series he plays on pain killers. He was spent in the last day of the test match.

He was left out of the WC squad so he could play in the Ashes.
 

ek999

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Harris has played barely any short form cricket in the past couple of years and there are concerns on how his body will hold up with all the cricket to be played this year so it is understandable to leave him out.

I can't figure out why people would want Zampa or Boyce in the team over Doherty other than the fact that Australian's love leggies more then offies. Neither of them are anywhere near as good as Doherty
 

Pete Cash

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My tickets have arrived. Some cheapies for a big group of me and my friends to go to England v Afghanistan so I can boo the English and quarter final tickets. Too sweet.
 

Mr Angry

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I think is out of Us, NZ and RSA.

India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka all look solid.

The rest no chance.
 

Timbo

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South Africa's batting is too brittle IMO. Rely way too much on de Villiers, Amla and du Plessis - and Faf is pretty hot and cold.
 

WaznTheGreat

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Quinton de Kock is a future star and JP Duminy is a good solid batsmen,David Miller is a bit like Glenn Maxwell in which he hasn't lived up to his potential yet,he may come good,those 3 gonna have to have a great tourney to help out the main 3 you mentioned.
 

vvvrulz

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I think is out of Us, NZ and RSA.

India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka all look solid.

The rest no chance.

Recent from confirms that Australia, NZ and South Africa are easily the favourites.

I don't think India and Sri Lanka have a hope at all
 

shiznit

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Have the Kiwis beaten RSA recently ?
Not in the last 12 months or so...

I don't remember how long ago it was but I think we won the ODI series on the last tour of South Africa.

Edit- yeah just checked... It was nearly exactly 2 years ago.
 
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JJ

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Generally great players win world cups and RSA have more of them than anyone.

They could well fail again but nobody else has the same quality.
 

undertaker

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Too bad Brad Hogg isn't the specialist spinner in our World Cup squad. Even at 44, last night he showed that he's still got it and can bowl in a pressure situation. The difference to the likes of Maxwell and Doherty is that Hogg has the variation to trouble top tier batsmen
 

jargan83

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Super Over to decide the World Cup in the event of a tied final.

COMMON sense has finally prevailed at the International Cricket Council, with the board overturning a farcical situation, which could have resulted in dual-World Cup winners on Australian soil.

An 11th hour decision by ICC powerbrokers has amended the game conditions to include the allowance for a super over should the final finish in a tie.

It means there will be a definitive winner of the World Cup, which kicks off in Melbourne on February 14.

Under the original conditions set out for the tournament, the trophy would have been split between the two finalists if the decider finished in a tie.

Although unlikely, history has proven that ties can happen in World Cups, and the prospect of Michael Clarke and AB de Villiers for instance; standing on the MCG podium together, sour-faced at having to share a World Cup would have been completely embarrassing for cricket.

After all, this is one of the biggest sporting events on the planet.

The thought of Italy and France being forced to split the 2006 soccer World Cup crown because there was no penalty shootout, is impossible to comprehend.

The super over might not be the fairest way to produce a winner, but it’s better than the alternative — which as the saying goes, is like kissing your sister.

Fortunately, cricket powerbrokers have realised that there needs to be a winner of the sport’s showpiece event with millions attending and billions watching around the world.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/cricke...ments-super-over/story-fndpt0dy-1227201178504
 

TheParraboy

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Folks, what do you think about these suggestions for the world cup (in the international live game thread section)

ALL Australia and NZ games to have their own separate game threads for each game (regardless who they play)

All minnow games to be in one thread - a general "World cup 2015 games thread"

ALL games between the test playing nations to have their own thread

obviously quarters, semi's and the final to have their own threads

OR

do we just make a game thread for every match?

thoughts?
 

Twizzle

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Play it by ear, if we get the interest in neutral games just move them to a new thread and rename it.

What about Fantasy ?

Any one running a decent one on the WC ?
 

TheParraboy

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yeah there is one twatface McGee found

ill try get it running next day or two

still plenty of time till the WC starts
 

undertaker

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Really happy to read this (especially the part in bold):

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket...izes-on-eve-of-world-cup-20150204-136a28.html

A forecast crackdown on bat sizes by the International Cricket Council on the eve of the World Cup has been met with raised eyebrows by players and manufacturers, who believe there are other reasons to blame for the "unfair" balance between bat and ball.

The bulging of bats will be no more evident than with the one to be used at this month's 50-over tournament by West Indian Chris Gayle, whose bat has 45 millimetre edges, and the imposing willow wielded by Australia's David Warner.

And less than three weeks after South Africa's AB de Villiers smashed the fastest one-day international hundred in history, taking only 31 balls to reach the milestone, the sport's governing body has indicated a move towards reining in the size of bats.

ICC chief executive David Richardson said the balance between batsman and bowler "may have shifted a bit too much".

"No one begrudges an AB de Villiers, who plays some superb shots," Richardson said. "Him, Brendon McCullum, Kumar Sangakkara, they are exceptionally talented and no one minds if they hit some great shots which go for six. But where some batsmen are mishitting balls and it is just carrying over the rope and going for a six instead of being caught at the boundary, that is what some cricket people believe has become unfair.

"The MCC (World Cricket Committee), as law makers, and the ICC will be looking at giving perhaps some consideration to placing limitations on the depth of a bat in particular."

Richardson told ESPNCricinfo that in the interim boundary ropes would be pushed back to at least 90 metres "where possible" at the World Cup.

The pending action on bat sizes was short-sighted, manufacturers argued, instead pointing to other modifications that had altered the one-day game, such as reduced boundaries, the use of two new white balls in an innings and the restrictions on fielders outside the circle. The bat dimensions permitted in the laws of cricket are up to 96.5 centimetres in length and 10.8 centimetres wide.

"It's got nothing to do with the bat sizes," said Spartan Sports owner Kunal Sharma, who is Gayle's bat provider. "It's purely because you're using a brand new ball for the first 20 overs. I've got cricket bats here in my business and they're half the size and they ping just as much. Its' only a psychological thing in your mind."

Greg Eime, the brand manager at Gunn & Moore, agreed, saying smaller grounds were a big factor.

"Effectively the game has changed and the way the batsmen play has changed," Eime said. "It's a combination of a lot of things, even down to the players' physical fitness and strength. To go finger pointing at the bats, I don't think that's quite fair."

Michael Reid, the sponsor manager at Gray-Nicolls, said there had been "a number of changes to the game which contribute to the higher scores and so forth ... not necessarily the bat sizes."

India's Rohit Sharma has twice posted ODI double hundreds in the past 15 months and de Villiers' jaw-dropping century last month came only a year after New Zealand's Corey Anderson broke the previous record for the fastest ton, setting the new mark at 36 deliveries.

The sentiments from players echoed those of manufacturers on Wednesday. All-rounder Dan Christian responded to reports of Richardson's comments on social media, posting: "2 x 200's, and fastest 100 broken twice, all since 2 new balls and only 4 fielders out rule came in".

Former Test opener Ed Cowan replied: "Bingo. That IS the issue. Bats may have changed 5% in last 10 years but easy target to blame."

The ICC is also intent on improving umpire safety, particularly following the death of an umpire in Israel in November when he was struck by a ball that ricocheted of the stumps.

The issue is an important one, says Sydney umpire Karl Wentzel, who wears a helmet officiating in first grade games after having five teeth knocked out when he was hit while umpiring at the bowler's end in 2001.

"The power of the bats today are so strong that the speed in which the ball leaves the bat is just phenomenal," Wentzel said.

"I've umpired a number of games with David Warner playing and said to myself, 'I'm very pleased that I'm wearing a helmet'. The blokes are hitting the ball so hard these days, you barely have any time to react. There is bound to be a freak accident at some point."

Love the bit that is underlined.

I've been crapping on about the ropes for sometime, but this summer was an absolute disgrace to see how far the rope has been brought in from the boundary, especially at matches such as the SCG test where even the sidescreens were brought in (just so Commonwealth Bank can have more advertising boards and that photographers get a better view for taking pictures), which means the rope is brought in even further from the fence. Well, with boundary ropes being pulled back to 90m from the pitch, too bad if the stupid photographers don't have more room behind the rope to stretch out their feet, go and take your photos somewhere else. The T20 matches always have the ropes brought in quite a lot from the fence so that more 4s and 6s are hit. When it became mandatory for ropes to be introduced around the whole fence of Australian venues during the 2001/02 season, the ropes were relatively close to the fence: in most cases, no more than 2-3 metres max. Over the last few years though, I've noticed the ropes being gradually brought in (especially when more T20 matches started being played in Australia). Have a look at some of the matches on YouTube from games that summer and you'll see what I mean, especially this one (you'll see how close the rope is to the fence with these sixes that Brett Lee hit over long off):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5Q0BcPXwCg

All in all, about time ppl at the top of the ICC are starting to wake up to the fact that batsmen have had it good for way too long. Shortened boundaries, more powerful bats and something else very important that wasn't mentioned...flat pitches. The tournament organisers need to spice up the pitches in this tournament, otherwise I fear we will be seeing a lot of 300+ 1st innings scores, especially at grounds like Adelaide Oval with drop-in pitches and extremely short horizontal boundaries.
 
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