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2016/17 Summer of Cricket

Gronk

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Might as well resurrect DKL's aluminium bat and then it can leave cuts in the ball.
 

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Pointing questioned that, too. Apparently it was leaving marks on the ball so I'd say if it is legal it won't be for long.
But when Ponting played he used a bat with Carbon Fibre on the back which was then deemed illegal. Now he's worried what players are using now lol.
 

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Ponting can STFU. It's funny listening to him talk tactics when he was one of the worst tacticians ever to captain a side
 

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No offence to you but i had to laugh at this comment. T20 cricket is just a cheap form of cricket anyway.

However it is popular because it appeals to children, women and those with a short attention span. That is obviously the majority of the population.

Having started playing it regularly appreciate T20 a lot more tbh. It's obviously hit and giggle but it's a lot of fun, and high intensity stuff for the crowd

Plus much better than weeknight TV lol
 

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The obsession to find an all rounder is just laughable. Cartwright hardly bowls at all for WA.
We do need at least 1 guy in our top six that can bowl. However, I am surprised Smith doesn't bowl himself more.

"Paris" Hilton Cartwright is one of the worst options. In no particular order, I would rate Marsh, Faulkner, Stoinis, Henriques, Maxwell, Head, Agar and Ashton Turner ahead of him.

I honestly believe the selectors are taking the piss out of Aussie cricket fans.
 

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Having started playing it regularly appreciate T20 a lot more tbh. It's obviously hit and giggle but it's a lot of fun, and high intensity stuff for the crowd

Plus much better than weeknight TV lol
Mate, i tend to agree. I am not necessarily having a shot at t20 cricket as i couldn't play it. Amazing skill levels.

However, my point is that it is cheap cricket.

Like a bottle of passion pop compared to champagne. Both may get you drunk but one is far cheaper.
 

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We do need at least 1 guy in our top six that can bowl. However, I am surprised Smith doesn't bowl himself more.

"Paris" Hilton Cartwright is one of the worst options. In no particular order, I would rate Marsh, Faulkner, Stoinis, Henriques, Maxwell, Head, Agar and Ashton Turner ahead of him.

I honestly believe the selectors are taking the piss out of Aussie cricket fans.

Cartwright is objectively better than Marsh, Agar, Turner and definitely Stoinis who legitimately the biggest plodder in Australia. Faulkner and Maxwell would be good if we had Nevill batting six and the all rounder at 7 but they aren't top six bats at test level. Henriques is the best option but has failed before and probably has a line through his name...

Out of Head and Cartwright it's basically whether you want a talented unproven young top order bat who bowls some spin, or a talented unproven top order bat who bowls some outswing. Cartwright averages 44 in Shield cricket, Head 34...so on batting it's Cartwright tbh.

I rate Head btw and would have no issue if he was picked
 

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Cartwright is objectively better than Marsh, Agar, Turner and definitely Stoinis who legitimately the biggest plodder in Australia. Faulkner and Maxwell would be good if we had Nevill batting six and the all rounder at 7 but they aren't top six bats at test level. Henriques is the best option but has failed before and probably has a line through his name...

Out of Head and Cartwright it's basically whether you want a talented unproven young top order bat who bowls some spin, or a talented unproven top order bat who bowls some outswing. Cartwright averages 44 in Shield cricket, Head 34...so on batting it's Cartwright tbh.

I rate Head btw and would have no issue if he was picked
Fair enough, in your opinion. However have you seen Cartwright bowl? I follow shield cricket religiously and he is terrible. I am not sure re his batting.

You obviously are not a fan of Stoinis but he is far better than Cartwright imo.

I still believe Mitch Marsh will be our long term allrounder.
 

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Marsh can't bat. At least at test level. He lacks the patience and he lacks the range of shots required.

Cartwright won't be picked as an all rounder if he plays. He'll bowl a similar number of overs to Maddinson...
 

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Marsh can't bat. At least at test level. He lacks the patience and he lacks the range of shots required.

Cartwright won't be picked as an all rounder if he plays. He'll bowl a similar number of overs to Maddinson...
We will see about Marsh. IMO he is a player similar to Andrew Symonds (but Marsh the far better bowling option). A true match winner but he needs to believe in himself first.

If Cartwright is not being picked as an all rounder, there are far better batting options in Aussie cricket that can bowl some options.
 

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We will see about Marsh. IMO he is a player similar to Andrew Symonds (but Marsh the far better bowling option). A true match winner but he needs to believe in himself first.

If Cartwright is not being picked as an all rounder, there are far better batting options in Aussie cricket that can bowl some options.

Are there though? There are very few batsmen standing out this season really and those that are don't bowl.

I don't have an issue with selecting Cartwright. He's young and talented. Would have been better to pick him when he was in slightly better form but honestly sometimes I think the selectors can't win. They do make some awful decisions absolutely, but then they look for a batsman who is a handy change up bowler and get criticism for that too. From the outside looking in it looks like it might signal the beginning of the end of the obsession with finding an all rounder and that can only be a good thing.
 

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Are there though? There are very few batsmen standing out this season really and those that are don't bowl.

I don't have an issue with selecting Cartwright. He's young and talented. Would have been better to pick him when he was in slightly better form but honestly sometimes I think the selectors can't win. They do make some awful decisions absolutely, but then they look for a batsman who is a handy change up bowler and get criticism for that too. From the outside looking in it looks like it might signal the beginning of the end of the obsession with finding an all rounder and that can only be a good thing.
Kurtis Patterson is the batsman that should have been picked over Maddinson.

You know Cartwright has been bought into the squad as an all rounder to help our bowlers after the last test?

Anyway mate, I think we are agreeing to disagree. All the best, mate.
 
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No offence to you but i had to laugh at this comment. T20 cricket is just a cheap form of cricket anyway.

However it is popular because it appeals to children, women and those with a short attention span. That is obviously the majority of the population.
Yes and no. Strip aside the gimmicks and it's every bit the legitimate contest that the other forms are. If it's not quite there yet, it will be. Unless someone comes up with ten over cricket.
 

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Having started playing it regularly appreciate T20 a lot more tbh. It's obviously hit and giggle but it's a lot of fun, and high intensity stuff for the crowd

Plus much better than weeknight TV lol

I agree.

It is not as engaging as a Test match, but it's a lot of fun to watch.
 

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Marsh can't bat. At least at test level. He lacks the patience and he lacks the range of shots required.

Cartwright won't be picked as an all rounder if he plays. He'll bowl a similar number of overs to Maddinson...

I think thats pretty accurate, Cartright is not all all rounder any more than Madison is.

Head is pretty much the same, he is not what I would call an all rounder either. He gets away with bowling about 4 overs of darts in ODI games but he is not a penetrating type spinner that would take wickets in a test match imo. I think he will be pigeon holed as a ODI player for some time.
 

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