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Still available seats in the Storm section. Plastic club. No fans.
So whats the excuse for still being able to get tickets in the Sharks section?
Still available seats in the Storm section. Plastic club. No fans.
It is basically sold out and was before tickets went on sale to the public, only single seats available in both the Sharks and Storm areas, so the only reason its not sold out is there are a few singles in various areas.
Failed experiment GWS Giants the elephant in the change room
Adam Schwab
Business director and writer
People have a habit of avoiding elephants in the room. And there are few bigger elephants than the continuing disaster of the AFL’s botched expansions in western Sydney and the Gold Coast.
Ignore their stunning on-field success; the GWS Giants have been given the most raw talent ever assembled in AFL history. But despite their tremendous performance (GWS were only a kick away from making this year’s grand final after only five years of existence), it appears that the people of western Sydney couldn’t care less about their AFL-manufactured team. In what must be an AFL first, there were clearly more interstate Western Bulldogs supporters at GWS’ home stadium on Saturday than there were GWS fans.
The Giants have become the prototype AFL-sponsored team both on and off the field. On Saturday night, 16 (out of 22) Giants players were first-round (or underage priority) selections — then there are players like Callan Ward and Shane Mumford, who were effectively first-round selections when traded to the Giants. Only two of the Giants’ players from its first preliminary final — Rory Lobb and Nathan Wilson — weren’t high-round gifts from the AFL. The Giants team even has three top draft picks and two second picks.
To maintain this incredible talent, the Giants are the only club to receive salary-cap concessions (around $300,000 in 2016). In a competition desperate to remove any unfair advantages, the concession is significant.
This gerrymandered talent has been expertly reared by some of the AFL’s best development coaches. First Kevin Sheedy and Mark Williams, and more recently, Leon Cameron, and the club itself was expertly managed by Graeme Allan (recently appointed by Eddie McGuire at Collingwood).
Despite creating a team with more first-round draft selections than any other in the history of the game, crowds for the manufactured club remain embarrassing. The AFL (although more accurately, supporters of pre-existing clubs) have spent $85 million on building GWS alone. That money has come from more expensive memberships and higher Foxtel costs for genuine fans. All to be spent on a team that not even Western Sydney residents appear to support. Earlier this year, an embarrassing 8000 fans attended the GWS v Gold Coast match, less than some country games attract.
And let’s not forget the other costs of the expansion club experiment.
After 30 years of measures aimed at making the AFL a more even competition (specifically the draft and salary cap), three teams have won nine of the last 10 premierships. The main reason for the AFL becoming significantly less even? Mid-tier clubs (until the Bulldogs last year) weren’t able to improve due to half a decade of compromised drafts. The introduction of GWS and Gold Coast played almost as big a role in Hawthorn’s three-peat as Alastair Clarkson’s masterful tactics.
Then there’s the cost to clubs of low gate receipts as a result of the tiny supporter bases of the expansion sides. Every time an Etihad stadium-based club plays GWS or Gold Coast, they write a stadium operator a six-figure cheque. These clubs are then criticised for making losses, even though the losses are caused by being forced to pay in expansive costly stadiums against poorly supported expansion teams.
But don’t hold your breath for any changes. While most companies would (begrudgingly) come clean about their failures and end loss-making endeavours, such financial responsibility just doesn’t exist in AFL House. Media outlets, most of whom rely on the AFL itself for accreditation, dare not criticise the AFL executive’s financial incompetence, while feedback from the likes of Eddie McGuire is drowned out by GWS chairman Tony Shepherd.
Shepherd, a former public servant turned business lobbyist aggressively attacks anyone who dares question the GWS gerrymander. Shepherd’s corporate career has been devoted to extracting taxpayer money to private interests (first at road builder Transfield, and later at the Business Council).
So before you celebrate the stunning on-field successes of the GWS, don’t forget who’s writing the cheques.
*Adam Schwab is the author of Pigs at the Trough: Lessons from Australia’s Decade of Corporate Greed
The fk. Really?
That's outright embarrassing.
Realise you're a one club state right?Realise we have more members than you, right?
Fact remains they got $66mill a year more Australian media money by having a ninth game to sell. they are bringing in more than it is costing them, and they get a sht load of national expansion goodness thrown in. Not bad for two clubs no one wants.
There would be 20-30 seats left max, pretty good effort considering most were taken up by members. Time to stop trying to find negatives and lets celebrate the best week of the year for the game.And looking at the prices those single seats that are left will be extremely hard to shift.
Realise you're a one club state right?
Agreed.There would be 20-30 seats left max, pretty good effort considering most were taken up by members. Time to stop trying to find negatives and lets celebrate the best week of the year for the game.
You are asserting that the entire $66M is due to the new teams, or an extra game. I put it to you that the TV deal would have increased in value with 8 games anyway (just like the NRL one did)
I don't doubt the extra game increases the value of the TV deal, but to say it was the full $66M seems to simplistic.
Its like people who claim the 100% of the monies raised by selling NRL rights to the Sky NZ should be given to the Warriors, ignoring that the money is to broadcast the entire NRL schedule.
Your point? Doesn't seem to affect the Swans membership numbers with all the NRL clubs we have in Sydney.Yeah not like we have 8-9 AFL clubs who are priority #1 down here!
Realise you're a one club state right?
Realise you're a one club state right?
Other strategy? Every other strategy has been taking a backseat for a decade. And I use the word strategy loosely because there is no strategy anywhere in the game, either to consolidate or to expand. It is a total lack of strategy. The strategy is that there is no strategy. Bumble along and hope the VFL go away and that somehow the sport also grows in new areas by magic. That's the NRL way.Not a case of being resigned to it , it's a fact they're after our markets & will spend money to achieve their end game goal.
We need to match their spend & ensure their efforts are nothing more then them pissing their money up against the wall.
Our game is the better product but that won't be enough by itself.
Any other strategy we have for growing the game here & elsewhere will have to take a back seat for a while until the heartland is secure.
Your point? Doesn't seem to affect the Swans membership numbers with all the NRL clubs we have in Sydney.
As you or I have no idea, and no way of ever finding out, you can only go on what you want to believe. Is it all due to a ninth game? Don't know, but I would imagine the AFL worked out if it was worth expanding with two basket case clubs and decided the $ value it would bring in would be worth the pain that it would cause.
Yeah - not to mention the two grand finals. Looking at a $1000 round trip for mostFlights and accomodation are not cheap from Melb to Sydney and vice versa. It is school holidays.