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2016 Match Review Committee / Judiciary

Red Bear

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James gets off. Swinging arm doesn't seem to attract much of a charge these days. Still can't believe McGuires only got a week.
 

innsaneink

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RYAN James has been found found guilty of a careless high tackle that broke James Tedesco’s jaw, but he will be free to play this weekend after a bizarre intervention by one of the NRL’s judiciary panel members.

Gold Coast skipper James was found guilty on Wednesday evening of a grade two careless high tackle, which initially ruled him out of Saturday’s clash with the Knights in Newcastle.

But judiciary panel member Royce Ayliffe took it upon himself to speak up after the guilty verdict was handed down, telling James’ defence team: “Hang on, he’s only been found guilty.’’

That prompted James’ lawyer Jim Hall, a former judiciary boss, to request the charge be reduced to a grade one, which meant 90 carry-over points and no suspension.

Hall initially implied he was unaware seeking a downgrade was a viable option.

It then took just five minutes for Ayliffe and fellow panel members Chris McKenna and Mal Cochrane to allow one of the most penalised forwards in the NRL to have his charge downgraded.

Tedesco has been left with four plates inserted into his jaw as the Wests Tigers’ finals hopes hang by a thread following their 19-18 loss to the Titans last week.

Social media went into meltdown given James is free to play, yet only a fortnight earlier St George Illawarra’s Tyson Frizell copped a one-match ban for brushing past a referee.

Judiciary chairman Geoff Bellew told the panel to ignore the fact Tedesco had broken his jaw when deciding whether to find James guilty.

“Disregard any medical evidence given to you. The only issue for you is whether or not the tackle was careless,’’ Bellew said.

But when it came to grading, the seriousness of Tedesco’s injury was taken into account.

Coach Neil Henry, who flew from the Gold Coast to Sydney to support his skipper, said: “We came down here thinking the speed of which (the incident) happened, it wasn’t a careless action by Ryan.

“The judiciary thought it was on the lower end of carelessness, they took into account how fast the action happened, and how James Tedesco was dropping. We’ve been able to get a downgrade. There was no malice or intent.’’

Tedesco, who is recovering after surgery, was forced from the field on the hour mark during Saturday’s heartbreaking loss to the Titans at a packed Campbelltown Sports Stadium.

NRL counsel Peter McGrath said the tackle was avoidable, and James had enough time to make a safe tackle without any contact to his jaw. He argued James also took his eyes off Tedesco before he made contact.

Hall said the tackle was “accidental’’, and there was nothing else James could have done.

“There is no swinging arm, his fist is not clenched, Ryan James moves into the tackle bent forward with his hands out in front, ready to catch and hold,’’ Hall said.

“James Tedesco catches the ball in an upright position, and in less than a quarter of a second the tackle is completed.

“It was accidental, not careless. The game is played at speed, and you would all know it is impossible to change a tackle in less than a quarter of a second, a third of a second, even half a second.

“You should ask yourselves what else Ryan James could have done to avoid making contact with the head.’’

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pre ... dbd1657766
 

innsaneink

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Gordon Tallis couldve defended Ryan James succesfully after reading the sham that was tonights proceedings
 

skeepe

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What the f**k? The judiciary actually told James's defence team to apply for a downgrade?

That's straight up corruption right there.
 

simmo1

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Brush the ref as you run back to the defensive line - 1 week.

Break a player's jaw with a high shot - 0 weeks.

Seems legit.
 

Front-Rower

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Brush the ref as you run back to the defensive line - 1 week.

Break a player's jaw with a high shot - 0 weeks.

Seems legit.

Throw a water bottle and get two weeks

lol Did it come as a shock? probably not. Does it reek of incompetence? most definately.
 

adamkungl

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This decision in isolation is fine. 0-1 weeks. I'm not a fan of seeing players penalised for "high" tackles at waist height.
I'd rather see players spend more time on the field than off it. Arbitrary suspensions don't heal broken jaws or prevent future accidents.

The issue is the ridiculous over suspensions earlier in the season, all the ref touching ones, Wade Graham's high tackle. They set a precedent which now looks to have gone out the window.

I've said it before, the entire grading and suspension system is a mess. 15 possible grades of high tackle. Broken broken broken
 

POPEYE

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What an odd remark.
Get with the flow ol' mate, a lot happens 'for the good of the game' even if most of it can be put down to the subconscious and only some by designation. The NRL although not gifted manipulators still consider their prime audience less mentally gifted . . . a game for the 'working' man orchestrated by those without calluses

Penalty counts mean sfa, where on the field and what number in the tackle count is what really matters. If you think penalties have been 'evened 'up without considering those factors you're a dunce. The Roosters for instance when they were too good for too long had to be 'curtailed' somehow.

The Dogs are considered 'overdue', can't have the powers that be being too hard on them until they've won a fresh premiership just as Souths were given a leg up when the time was right

All about appearances, if the NRL really cared about a fair game they wouldn't have Origin/referees/judiciary as levellers. Bad enough that some clubs refuse to lay down and follow the 'take your turn' edict, you see the club I care most about only need remain a 'contender' to keep me happy

If Keeping A Straight Face was an Olympic event I too would be a contender for gold . . . it's all in the cup ol' mate
 

Delboy

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Incompetence/dodgy, Toddy boy strikes again

The NRL under Greenberg assumes control of the club, manoeuvres the signing of a major marquee player including extra payments, hammers continually a club that was a mortal foe, then an important prop gets treated this way as he searches for a buyer for the club

Another day under the rule of the bunker controller, look at me Toddy
 

Walt Flanigan

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Get with the flow ol' mate, a lot happens 'for the good of the game' even if most of it can be put down to the subconscious and only some by designation. The NRL although not gifted manipulators still consider their prime audience less mentally gifted . . . a game for the 'working' man orchestrated by those without calluses

Penalty counts mean sfa, where on the field and what number in the tackle count is what really matters. If you think penalties have been 'evened 'up without considering those factors you're a dunce. The Roosters for instance when they were too good for too long had to be 'curtailed' somehow.

The Dogs are considered 'overdue', can't have the powers that be being too hard on them until they've won a fresh premiership just as Souths were given a leg up when the time was right

All about appearances, if the NRL really cared about a fair game they wouldn't have Origin/referees/judiciary as levellers. Bad enough that some clubs refuse to lay down and follow the 'take your turn' edict, you see the club I care most about only need remain a 'contender' to keep me happy

If Keeping A Straight Face was an Olympic event I too would be a contender for gold . . . it's all in the cup ol' mate

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Timmah

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I love how the default fallback is Todd Greenberg conspiracy theories :joy::joy:

Anyway, @adamkungl pretty much nailed it. The grading & points system is broken.
 

carcharias

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the cynic in me tells me this is the NRL trying to get their baby into the finals.
how the f**k anyone gets off that is unbelievable .
 

betcats

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What the f**k? The judiciary actually told James's defence team to apply for a downgrade?

That's straight up corruption right there.

If true this is f**ked. Where the f**k is this Greebturd muppet and what is he doing? Why the f**k is this muppet getting a pass for spending millions on this bunker when it has improved nothing. Oh wait sorry we can now view the refs f**k ups and bad calls in HD from 15 different angles, well worth the millions!
 

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