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2017 Crowd Watch

Jizmos

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It sucks that league isn't more popular in NSW cause I enjoy watching games with at least a one rating in atmosphere.....

We need to re-locate 2-3 Sydney based teams....there's just no two ways about it if we want to avoid these embarrassing crowds happening 3+ times a round.
The state is just completely oversaturated and too crowded for the level of passionate support required to fill these stadiums.

Adding a few of T-boons ideas couldn't hurt either.
 

adamkungl

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It sucks that league isn't more popular in NSW cause I enjoy watching games with at least a one rating in atmosphere.....

We need to re-locate 2-3 Sydney based teams....there's just no two ways about it if we want to avoid these embarrassing crowds happening 3+ times a round.
The state is just completely oversaturated and too crowded for the level of passionate support required to fill these stadiums.

Adding a few of T-boons ideas couldn't hurt either.

lol
 

beave

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It sucks that league isn't more popular in NSW cause I enjoy watching games with at least a one rating in atmosphere.....

We need to re-locate 2-3 Sydney based teams....there's just no two ways about it if we want to avoid these embarrassing crowds happening 3+ times a round.
The state is just completely oversaturated and too crowded for the level of passionate support required to fill these stadiums.

Adding a few of T-boons ideas couldn't hurt either.
Hi T-Boon.
 

AlwaysGreen

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It sucks that league isn't more popular in NSW cause I enjoy watching games with at least a one rating in atmosphere.....

We need to re-locate 2-3 Sydney based teams....there's just no two ways about it if we want to avoid these embarrassing crowds happening 3+ times a round.
The state is just completely oversaturated and too crowded for the level of passionate support required to fill these stadiums.

Adding a few of T-boons ideas couldn't hurt either.
GW here
 

adamkungl

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NRL is popular enough to easily average 20k every week. 4 million people watch Origin, 3 million odd watch the GF, and people show up in droves to well promoted big NRL events.

But.

Sydney people have an attitude problem. For most the default position is to not go to things unless swayed by some major incentive, rather than to go to things unless there's some major issue.

This is both partially caused by and exacerbated by a transport and stadium situation which is decades behind catering for the wider metro's geography.

So we have a situation where someone is considering going to the footy...
Gotta catch 3 trains - nope.
Looks like rain - nope.
Mate says to come to the pub - nope.
Bad hair day - nope.

Then you have the All Powerful and Wise NRL.
Taking this into account, the smart thing to do would be to build a schedule that puts people first and promotes big events. We see terms like "Right game right stadium" thrown around.. and then have disasters like this week. Almost every week.

- Thursday is never the right day. 6pm Friday games, if they insist on them (they shouldn't), location should be carefully considered. Never at ANZ.

- ANZ is unfortunately unavoidable for probably Parra and Bulldogs at the moment, but Tigers and Dragons have no reason to be playing there. Absurd.
Parra should play out-of-towners elsewhere too while their stadium is rebuilt. Could have sold this week's game to Christchurch or Wellington or Dunedin.
The new Parra stadium should host the majority of Parra and Tigers games in future.

- Origin must go completely standalone. It actively detracts from NRL competition enthusiasm for close to 1 third of the season.

- Day games must take precedence. 1 Prime time game Fri Sat Sun, the rest weekend day games.

- Almost all Public holidays should host 3 games - look at Anzac Day. This is a big event that should be repeated much more. Clubs and fans must take precedence over broadcasters.

- Ticket prices must be reviewed. They are a complete failure of basic economics. There's a ton of supply and no demand but they are sold at a premium. Tickets should be sold cheap and GA, with reserved preference only going to Club members. 'Gold/Cat A' should be thrown in the bin for NRL games until demand requires them.

- Transport links must be negotiated with the government and well promoted.
Free transport with tickets. Special buses from key areas to and from games. Direct f**king trains to ANZ.

The NRL is happy to piss money away on overblown investments, how about spending some of it to invest in crowds actually watching the game.
 

BTown324

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Ticket prices ticket prices ticket prices scheduling ticket prices ticket prices marketing marketing ticket prices scheduling marketing ticket prices

B.
 

Jizmos

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NRL is popular enough to easily average 20k every week. 4 million people watch Origin, 3 million odd watch the GF, and people show up in droves to well promoted big NRL events.

But.

Sydney people have an attitude problem. For most the default position is to not go to things unless swayed by some major incentive, rather than to go to things unless there's some major issue.

This is both partially caused by and exacerbated by a transport and stadium situation which is decades behind catering for the wider metro's geography.

So we have a situation where someone is considering going to the footy...
Gotta catch 3 trains - nope.
Looks like rain - nope.
Mate says to come to the pub - nope.
Bad hair day - nope.

Then you have the All Powerful and Wise NRL.
Taking this into account, the smart thing to do would be to build a schedule that puts people first and promotes big events. We see terms like "Right game right stadium" thrown around.. and then have disasters like this week. Almost every week.

- Thursday is never the right day. 6pm Friday games, if they insist on them (they shouldn't), location should be carefully considered. Never at ANZ.

- ANZ is unfortunately unavoidable for probably Parra and Bulldogs at the moment, but Tigers and Dragons have no reason to be playing there. Absurd.
Parra should play out-of-towners elsewhere too while their stadium is rebuilt. Could have sold this week's game to Christchurch or Wellington or Dunedin.
The new Parra stadium should host the majority of Parra and Tigers games in future.

- Origin must go completely standalone. It actively detracts from NRL competition enthusiasm for close to 1 third of the season.

- Day games must take precedence. 1 Prime time game Fri Sat Sun, the rest weekend day games.

- Almost all Public holidays should host 3 games - look at Anzac Day. This is a big event that should be repeated much more. Clubs and fans must take precedence over broadcasters.

- Ticket prices must be reviewed. They are a complete failure of basic economics. There's a ton of supply and no demand but they are sold at a premium. Tickets should be sold cheap and GA, with reserved preference only going to Club members. 'Gold/Cat A' should be thrown in the bin for NRL games until demand requires them.

- Transport links must be negotiated with the government and well promoted.
Free transport with tickets. Special buses from key areas to and from games. Direct f**king trains to ANZ.

The NRL is happy to piss money away on overblown investments, how about spending some of it to invest in crowds actually watching the game.

I appreciate such an in depth response and while a fair amount has merit, more than anything it backs up what I wrote.

And while I actually believe MORE people watch the grand final and origins than the numbers they come out with that means absolutely nothing in the scheme of things as the OVERWHELMING majority of those are ultra casual watchers (not even going to call them fans) and quite frankly they will never put a cent in to the league as it merely exists fleetingly in their every day lives and doesn't consume them like the majority of posters in this forum and their network of friends.

We're talking consumers invested enough in the product to put money and time in to something they're passionate about and history has shown that in the case of rugby league (specifically in NSW), there just isn't as much of them as most of the posters in here believe there should be.....time to relocate a few teams me thinks.
 

Jizmos

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Their announced crowd did, however their actual crowd didn't.
Unless they all dressed up as red seats.

While I have nfi what their crowd looked like or what was announced it's a bit rich trying to insult a 5? year old team for inflating a low crowd when these 50-100 year old Sydney teams in league are pretty clearly boosting themselves just to get a 5 digit number more often than not.
 
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While I have nfi what their crowd looked like or what was announced it's a bit rich trying to insult a 5? year old team for inflating a low crowd when these 50-100 year old Sydney teams in league are pretty clearly boosting themselves just to get a 5 digit number more often than not.

GWS are also top of the table too. Were prelim finalists in 2016.

A lot of people want to bash nrl on crowds...we're not the only code suffering in Sydney.

In fact, the all conquering Sydney FC were all but unfollowed but for their meagre crowds, except for the local derby and a gf at home when surprise, surprise...they all turned up.

And when the swans were losing earlier in the season, the exit strategy was in full swing.
 

Clifferd

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It sucks that league isn't more popular in NSW cause I enjoy watching games with at least a one rating in atmosphere.....

We need to re-locate 2-3 Sydney based teams....there's just no two ways about it if we want to avoid these embarrassing crowds happening 3+ times a round.
The state is just completely oversaturated and too crowded for the level of passionate support required to fill these stadiums.

Adding a few of T-boons ideas couldn't hurt either.

League is indeed very popular in nsw, the nrl just doesn't do much to engage fans in the game.

Look at social media for example, millions of followers on Facebook, twitter, Instagram etc combined. Imagine if we could just convert 20% of those followers to nrl games on a regular basis

Tv viewing is also always very impressive
 
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Just so people know GWS are lying.

2016/17 BBL Thunder vs Sixers 20 Dec 2016, 21,798

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2016/17 BBL Thunder vs Heat 28 Dec 2016, 20,234

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Now, GWS claim they got 13,000 vs Essendon.

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Note: I am a full member of the Sydney Thunder, and both these photos were taken at the Thunder games by myself in 2016. You can refer to them in the GWS thread in the Fight Club for date / time veracity. The GWS photo is from Shannon Byrne's Twitter feed.
 

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