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2017 Crowd Watch

Timmah

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So your stories seem to agree with the fact that the experience - both getting to and at the ground for a suburban venue isn't as good or as easy as attending a newer, more accessible venue.
 

Perth Red

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So your stories seem to agree with the fact that the experience - both getting to and at the ground for a suburban venue isn't as good or as easy as attending a newer, more accessible venue.

My stories show that getting from the cbd to either wasn't hard. I'm still struggling to believe that it is harder work getting from one side of Cronulla to Shark Park than getting from outer Melbourne to AAMI which is what you seem to be suggesting. How hard can it be to go 5-10km in an outer suburb?

NIB would be 20km from my house, takes me about 30mins drive or 50min public transport and walk to get there, its no hardship! Just excuses. reality is these outer suburb clubs (who all come in the bottom of the Sydney attendance lists with the exception being Sth's stinking up the bottom slot) aren't getting the crowds not because its hard for home fans to get to the grounds but because they are geographically more isolated and therefore drawing from limited population reach as a rule.
 

carcharias

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My stories show that getting from the cbd to either wasn't hard. I'm still struggling to believe that it is harder work getting from one side of Cronulla to Shark Park than getting from outer Melbourne to AAMI which is what you seem to be suggesting. How hard can it be to go 5-10km in an outer suburb?

NIB would be 20km from my house, takes me about 30mins drive or 50min public transport and walk to get there, its no hardship! Just excuses. reality is these outer suburb clubs (who all come in the bottom of the Sydney attendance lists with the exception being Sth's stinking up the bottom slot) aren't getting the crowds not because its hard for home fans to get to the grounds but because they are geographically more isolated and therefore drawing from limited population reach as a rule.

The only reason you keep crapping on about this is because Perth don't have a team.

You can bullshit until the fat ugly pommie chicks with faces like trodden in dogs shit come home.

The facts still remain
You are basing you're entire futile argument on crowd figures of real existing teams.

Perth had a game this year
Shit crowd .
Piss poor
Nobody there cares about rugby league
 

Raiderdave

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How long since Canberra won anything?

Ha

Were you even alive?

1994
our 3rd title from 5 grand final appearances ... in 12 years
you see , unlike the Raiders
the description , one of the greatest rugby league sides in the games history , will not be uttered about any Sharks team , a very average club for pretty much all of its existence

enjoy your one & only title while you can , you'll cease to be the reigning premiers in a fortnight is my tip.
& they don't come round often
which makes it even more surprising the feat wasn't celebrated more by your clubs fans
quite bizzare really
 

Perth Red

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The only reason you keep crapping on about this is because Perth don't have a team.

You can bullshit until the fat ugly pommie chicks with faces like trodden in dogs shit come home.

The facts still remain
You are basing you're entire futile argument on crowd figures of real existing teams.

Perth had a game this year
Shit crowd .
Piss poor
Nobody there cares about rugby league

Or Cronulla then based on your criteria for showing how much interest there is. Both Cronulla and Perth have drawn 20k crowds and both have drawn sub 7k crowds. Best be moving them sharkies to somewhere that cares based on your determinants.
 

carcharias

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1994
our 3rd title from 5 grand final appearances ... in 12 years
you see , unlike the Raiders
the description , one of the greatest rugby league sides in the games history , will not be uttered about any Sharks team , a very average club for pretty much all of its existence

enjoy your one & only title while you can , you'll cease to be the reigning premiers in a fortnight is my tip.
& they don't come round often
which makes it even more surprising the feat wasn't celebrated more by your clubs fans
quite bizzare really

Please tell me how us fans didn't celebrate enough?

You need to read this


http://www.theleader.com.au/story/4880510/baby-boom-nine-months-after-sharks-win-title/?cs=1507
 

carcharias

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Or Cronulla then based on your criteria for showing how much interest there is. Both Cronulla and Perth have drawn 20k crowds and both have drawn sub 7k crowds. Best be moving them sharkies to somewhere that cares based on your determinants.

Bad luck mate
You hoped for us to fold
You thought you had it

Then
Bam!!
We get the development approved and win the comp
Memberships have grown every year since you started crapping on in here about my team .

Ha
 

Raiderdave

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carcharias

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ahhhhh
your average crowds went down lol
astounding tbh .....

& the article explains where you lot may have all been the night after the GF
getting your one & only root in 9 months

it doesn't explain your whereabouts for the 12 home games lol

I've been to 11 of 12 games

How's your crowds going compared to last year?
A lot of empty seats in that joint Iately ive noticed.
 

Raiderdave

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I've been to 11 of 12 games

How's your crowds going compared to last year?
A lot of empty seats in that joint Iately ive noticed.

25% increase on 2016 dopey
& it would have probably been around 50% if we'd actually lived up to the hype at the start of the season.
Thats support
sharks fans need to look at us to see how to support their club : )
 

carcharias

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25% increase on 2016 dopey
& it would have probably been around 50% if we'd actually lived up to the hype at the start of the season.
Thats support
sharks fans need to look at us to see how to support their club : )

Well they let you f**kers down didn't they
Ha

Using your teams performance as a crowd figure excuse is ok now?
Mine won the lot
We've had more to live up to than any other club in the comp.
 

carcharias

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I also noticed we had 3 Thursday night games compared to the raiders 1

ours were against
Storm
Broncos
Cowboys

3 teams that would have no support in Cronulla let alone fans that would've travelled .

750 for each game is approx the difference from last years average.
Play them in a realistic time slot and we would've easily bettered out average.
 

Billythekid

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No need to be confused ,as I've stated having a poor home ground record this year the fans still came out to support the team, some rather hesitatingly I might add-on the favourable scheduled nights.Hence my comment to someone about getting over 12,300 against the Titans.
Also the poorest Sharks crowds happened against Interstate clubs Storm/Broncos/Cowboys on Thursday night earlier in the year.
Sorry I repeat if the Storm/Broncos and Cowboys play at Sharks Park on a Thursday night, there is a better chance of their fans attending on a Saturday night than a ghost of a chance on a Thursday night to Shark Park.So I once again as i've done monotonously stated scheduling is the crux of the matter.Throw in Thursday nights is a deterrent to families attending especially in the shire ,then you may get my gist.To get one fair enough, to get 3 against big time Interstaters is really stretching the friendship with the NRL admin.

Your crowds in Melbourne have few interstate visitors, never suggested otherwise,but you have the luxury of an all seater stadium,failry centralised to public transport.Much better transport infrastructure than Sydney.


You Melbourne people still cannot fathom the fact,Sydney's transport infrastructure or lack thereof,and
its far wider geographical spread than Melbourne play a big part.Throw in the ease of access to main stadiums in Melbourne.

As I said you don't have a poor home record and suggesting that the sharks form could in anyway be responsible for turning away fans is possibly the biggest cop out I've ever read in this forum (and that's saying something). I don't disagree with you about the scheduling issues, feel free to discuss the massive issues facing crowds of all NRL clubs. Just don't try to use bullshit excuses like the above point and expect to be taken seriously.

Also I don't live in Melbourne I live in Scone. Despite living 2 hours drive from the nearest NRL team I still make more games than the vast majority of posters on this forum. I also manage to make 3-4 games in Sydney each year despite it being 5 hours away. So yes I can fathom the issues Sydney faces and for the most part I think they're over exaggerated. They're an issue sure but not an insurmountable one. It would be nice if the NRL and clubs would make some effort lobbying the government to help overcome these issues as well (like the AFL does).

Also as mentioned previously it doesn't really explain why the AFL have no problem drawing big crowds in Sydney as well.
 

taipan

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As I said you don't have a poor home record and suggesting that the sharks form could in anyway be responsible for turning away fans is possibly the biggest cop out I've ever read in this forum (and that's saying something). I don't disagree with you about the scheduling issues, feel free to discuss the massive issues facing crowds of all NRL clubs. Just don't try to use bullshit excuses like the above point and expect to be taken seriously.

Also I don't live in Melbourne I live in Scone. Despite living 2 hours drive from the nearest NRL team I still make more games than the vast majority of posters on this forum. I also manage to make 3-4 games in Sydney each year despite it being 5 hours away. So yes I can fathom the issues Sydney faces and for the most part I think they're over exaggerated. They're an issue sure but not an insurmountable one. It would be nice if the NRL and clubs would make some effort lobbying the government to help overcome these issues as well (like the AFL does).

Also as mentioned previously it doesn't really explain why the AFL have no problem drawing big crowds in Sydney as well.

You don't read or need glasses,I stated despite the Shark's form being up and downright ordinary they were still able to get 17,000 plus fans at their game against the Roosters, plus a decent crowd against the Titans.
I never stated they are not getting crowds because of their up and down form ,as the crowds on Saturday nights have shown that not to be the case.The point was they have been frustrating to watch this year.Their fans will still go but find Thursday nights family wise and Friday 6pm crap.They are in the top 5.
I assert the fans would not go in numbers if they were in Souths or Dogs position on the ladder

So there is no BS. involved them's the facts whether you live in Scone,Oodnadatta,or Wallangarra.
I have stated the main reason is scheduling (with the likes of the Interstate clubs playing there on thursday nights)and to lesser degree not having an all seater stadium .

" Massive crowd issues" yes that is correct, but let's look at the facts not BS:
In any case poor form if you look at Souths and Dogs who have large supporter bases,has affected their crowds greatly.To suggest otherwise one has NFI.Have a look at the warrior's crowds drift away.

ANZ stadium ,count on your hand the number of rl fans who like it for NRL games ,in it's current configuration,dopey scheduling,Thursday nights there hilarious unless you own a helicopter to arrive with a family.6pm Friday games seriously this for backpackers and the unemployed?
There have been decent packed crowds at Wollongong,Sharks Park,Penrith Park,Brookvale at decent scheduled times, which says something to the administrators.
And a sellout at CCV stadium Roosters v Sharks.decent schedule,all seater.


Are you aware the NRL: has lobbied for new stadiums.?Ever heard of the new Parra stadium due for completion early 2019,A rebuilt ANZ and SFS.$40m for clubs C of E all State Govt monies.
Don't blame the current admin for lacking lobbying house,blame the dopey Gallop gimps,who looked on whilst the SAFL were bale to extract money form even Local councils such as Wagga to build infrastructure,plus SA oval, plus the new Perth Stadium.


Swans: Finals year after year,the vast majority of their fans within Eastern Suburbs/Lower Nth Shore and Inner City close to the SCG,playing fortnightly,no FTA,friendly scheduling,all seater oval specific stadium in a central CBD type situation.On the odd occasion has Thursday night games,their fans hated ANZ ,never have a 6pm game, team covers the whole state.Decent transport infrastructure to fit in with their family friendly scheduling.
If they had 3 years being near the a*(se end of the ladder, you think they would maintain their crowds?

You honestly believe the AFL would have the Swans playing their 3 major Vic opponents on a Thursday night or have 6 pm Friday night games?

If the NRL had all those plusses in their basket, we wouldn't be arguing crowds.
 

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