2017 Crowd Watch

[Pommy]

I finish work at 5.30, so can reasonably get there in time (on a packed train).
The main issue is getting home at 11.30 or so. It's just not appealing when I have work the next day. Oh, and paying $45 or so for a passable seat which has a worse view than I could get at Brookvale.

Where is this brookvale you speak of?

 

[adamkungl]

Where is this brookvale you speak of?

Lottoland*

 

[Perth Red]

If there was a notable decline in the average I'd agree. It's stayed in the same 2,000-odd bracket for the last ten years.

As an avg game attendance that 1000-2000 avg difference is quite a significant drop of total number of people through the gate. From the high of 2010 to the drop off by 2015 we are taking around 250,000 less attendees through the gate over a whole season. If the avg punter spends around $40 attending a game that is $10million in lost revenue for clubs.

So whilst the 16,400 to 15,000 a game drop may not seem a lot, overall it is significant

 

[Perth Red]

I won't be going to ANZ on a Thursday night. Too much effort to pay too much money for an away game in a crap stadium for a local derby 20km away from being local.

If the NRL doesn't care about crowds, why should I?

Friday Saturday or Sunday (or SFS) and I'm there.

If the game was in the new western sydeny stadium at parra, ground was full, atmosphere great, price reasonable, would you go then?

Don't blame you for having no enthusiasm for anz, it's a graveyard on game day, especially for a week night game

 

[Hawkins]

I can't believe the NRL put this match on a Thursday, although anything below 16k would be disappointing for the biggest rivalry in the NRL.

You could always run a Women'sAFL game before hand. I heard on the local radio broadcast they had 145098 fans in attendance at a local park the other day, surely they could teach the NRL a thing or two.

 

[adamkungl]

If the game was in the new western sydeny stadium at parra, ground was full, atmosphere great, price reasonable, would you go then?

Don't blame you for having no enthusiasm for anz, it's a graveyard on game day, especially for a week night game

Away games on Thursday (or Monday) nights are pretty unlikely at the moment. Public transport to ANZ or $20 for parking kills it. New Parra stadium not really much better in that regard but a better stadium experience might swing in back towards positive.

 

[Pommy]

If the game was in the new western sydeny stadium at parra, ground was full, atmosphere great, price reasonable, would you go then?

Don't blame you for having no enthusiasm for anz, it's a graveyard on game day, especially for a week night game

I would have a lot more enthusiasm about attending under those circumstances that's for sure.
The commute would be a bit longer but it would be worth it.
Although his point about it being a local derby not being held locally would be even more prevalent were it held in Paramatta.

 

[taipan]

yeah keep banging on about our average ... from last year
thats last year
we're on the move .... up !!

you guys won your maiden premiership & aren't moving anywhere ...
WTF is going on there .... Einstein ??

Again
Crap.membership already up on last year. And a nice $500m development moving along nicely,a new club house to come, money in the bank and new stadiums long term.Right next door to the Licencesd club.
I'm really depressed LOL.
That's this year what till winter sets in.Year your 2016 average still hurts you.You were in the top 3 last year FFS.
Mr Bean perhaps you should wait til year's end before creaming yourself.

 

[taipan]

Humility? This coming from a sharks fan to a raiders fan.

Raiders fans have well and truly learnt humility.

If you are the typical sharks fan then it seems to me what we learnt pretty early on to be humble. But just you we understand eachother:-
- Your club spent 50 years winning nothing.
- Your club has been the butt of every useless in rugby league joke for 50 years.
- Your club finally won one premiership. One.
- Your club has the smallest supporter base in the NRL
- Your club won its one premiership shortly after being done for horse steroids.
- Your club won its premiership after retaining the coach and captain during the horse steroid debacle.
- Your club has been a financial basketcase for as long as I can remember with its limited crowds and limited care factor, until it flogged off its only decent asset. Its like the rich nephew trying to claim success of the back of selling its familys hard earned land to grab some cash because he can not maintain the lifestyle he is accustomed too.
- Your club has fans who bag other clubs out for getting 16k to a thursday night game against the same team your club got 14k to on a thursday night, which also happened to be the season opener and the first game back from winning the premiership.
- Most of all, what little amount of people that cared about your club did out of the misguided "shire" loyalty and now that they have juiced up and climbed the proverbial mountain they don't even give a shit about your club anymore.

Oddly enough, on the sharks fan board, most of your fans are quite good and reasonable, but here on LU its like all the fkn special knob ends are here to represent all the other good blokes.

Um because of all of the above we( I can't speak for all Sharks' fans) have learnt humility.Try having your club nearly closing its doors on 3 occasions, and being threatened with relocation by the head body.

I put money in collection buckets at streetlights , had a save the sharks sticker on my car for months, and you think I'm somehow overblowing myself.Didn;t know from one day til the next I'd have a club.Got bagged by supporters of a certain Southern club, we'd be flicked.

The simple fact is here I have no problem with Raiders' fans,I;'m responding to a well know Raiders sh*t stirrer, who gets return of serve.If the said gent ad made a statement,I wouldn't have responded.Simples.

If you think that (my view)applies to all Raider's fans ,you are wrong.So perhaps before bashing my head against a brick wall, check my motive.It 'is directed at one bod and one bod only.

 

[adamkungl]

I would have a lot more enthusiasm about attending under those circumstances that's for sure.
The commute would be a bit longer but it would be worth it.
Although his point about it being a local derby not being held locally would be even more prevalent were it held in Paramatta.

Yep. None of Souths excuses fly for playing out west, imo.
They may very well have more overall fans spread out across Sydney, but the highest concentration of their fans is 100% in the area between Maroubra/Coogee and Redfern.
The ANZ deal guaranteed them income in the post-revival era when they were getting flogged every week but surely it's a low bar to set now with a bazillion definitely real members and the ability to attract 20k plus crowds.

But hey, only effects me once a year, you guys have to live with being a half westie team not me.

 

[Pommy]

Yep. None of Souths excuses fly for playing out west, imo.
They may very well have more overall fans spread out across Sydney, but the highest concentration of their fans is 100% in the area between Maroubra/Coogee and Redfern.
The ANZ deal guaranteed them income in the post-revival era when they were getting flogged every week but surely it's a low bar to set now with a bazillion definitely real members and the ability to attract 20k plus crowds.

But hey, only effects me once a year, you guys have to live with being a half westie team not me.

I have no issue with us not playing in the heartland. In reality there are to many teams in Sydney that's just a fact.
I hate playing at ANZ, I wouldn't care if we played just about anywhere in Sydney as long as it wasn't ANZ. Lottoland purely on access is about the only place I would pick ANZ over.

 

[adamkungl]

I have no issue with us not playing in the heartland. In reality there are to many teams in Sydney that's just a fact.
I hate playing at ANZ, I wouldn't care if we played just about anywhere in Sydney as long as it wasn't ANZ. Lottoland purely on access is about the only place I would pick ANZ over.

Too many teams in Sydney but most of them are in Western Sydney.
The supposedly unpopular Roosters are the only ones going for the city crowd.

 

[Pommy]

Too many teams in Sydney but most of them are in Western Sydney.
The supposedly unpopular Roosters are the only ones going for the city crowd.

Does anyone actually live in the city apart from Asian students and Swans fans?

 

[chrisD]

Lesbians live in the city.

 

[adamkungl]

Does anyone actually live in the city apart from Asian students and Swans fans?

I dunno but a lot of people work there. Plus it's next to Souths home region.

 

[T-Boon]

These are the two things where I think changes for the better could bring big crowds in:

1. On field gameplay. More action! This is what gets kids interested, from Play Station to Big Bash. Its all about excitement. Specifically more passing and risk taking and "players making plays". There are too many 5-10metre hit ups which are neutral and relatively boring conservative plays.

2. Game day experience. There should be competition between the clubs as to who has the best game day experience similar to the membership race.

 

[myrrh ken]

Does anyone actually live in the city apart from Asian students and Swans fans?

Homeless. But they could also be swans fans

 

[Perth Red]

Just landed and walked out to a big gws billboard as the offical partners of Sydney airport, is this an nrl city?

 

[Teddyboy]

As an avg game attendance that 1000-2000 avg difference is quite a significant drop of total number of people through the gate. From the high of 2010 to the drop off by 2015 we are taking around 250,000 less attendees through the gate over a whole season. If the avg punter spends around $40 attending a game that is $10million in lost revenue for clubs.

So whilst the 16,400 to 15,000 a game drop may not seem a lot, overall it is significant

2003 to 2010 the game seemed to be going in the right direction not perfect but crowds seemed to be gaining ( apart from the odd SOO in Sydney hear and there).

 

[The Mad Hatter]

Just landed and walked out to a big gws billboard as the offical partners of Sydney airport, is this an nrl city?

That's the problem. As much as they plaster that stuff around people in Sydney don't give a shit. Some might shrug but generally we don't give a f**k about gws or afl. Come Liverpool way mate. Real gws land. No one gives a flying f**k. And no one gets their panties in a twist about EM either.