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2017 Origin III - QLD 22-6 NSW @ Suncorp

Game III: QLD v NSW


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Hutty1986

Immortal
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34,034
I don't resile from my point. Joey in the 7 and we're holding the shield.

Who you do or don't want as coach is not relevant to me.
And if hes there they probably win in 11,12, 13 and 15. Or alternatively, they slot in a pot plant for Mythchell during his 17 games of embarrassing mediocrity and they win a few series amongst that lot as well.
 

mongoose

Coach
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11,829
I love Loz but he's always turned into a jittery mess around big games. You could see it during the interview at halftime. It can't be good for the players.

you could hear it in his voice that he knew it was game over at half time. A total lack of belief in his own players
 

Knightmare

Coach
Messages
10,716
Qld have shown (like the Storm) that they rarely play two poor games in a row. They played a more composed game tonight and (despite the error count) were patient in how they went about adding to the score.

NSW remind me of Qld circa 2004-2005 right now. They had a young JT, Slater and Smith all showing signs of what's manifested since- but they lacked the maturity to consistently apply that pressure for 3 Origin games. In the 2004 and 2005 deciders, Qld were made to look second-rate by a polished, well-lead NSW team. Once players like Freddy/ Joey retired and the Maroons got someone like Meninga in- a respected figure who had the ability to lead? Then tables turned and the series wins came...

In similar fashion, right now there are a few younger players in this NSW squad who've done enough to show they've got big futures in front of them. But mentally they lack that killer instinct. That ability to land a knockout punch when it's needed, the discipline to weed out the stupid shit in their games that costs the team (looking at you, Wade Graham). This team would be a much better unit and more consistently play like the team we saw for the first 120 minutes of this years' series with different leadership- and that rests on the shoulders of Laurie Daley.

He has twice lost series he should have won (2013, 2017). As good as he was as a player, he is too nice, too reluctant to rock the boat and clearly lacks that killer instinct needed in an Origin coach. A fantastic player with great natural talent, but (like Wally Lewis) doesn't have what it takes to be successful as a coach at this level of the game. His demeanour just after half-time during that short interview told you everything- he looked lost for ideas, like a man already defeated- and it reflected on the team. This was his series to win- a coach with that ruthless attitude needed in Game 2 would've picked out JT, picked out Boyd and instructed his players to run at them all evening- pile on the points and smash Qld all the way to the final siren. Qld were bleeding, vulnerable, there for the taking- but Daley had nothing. Joey was right to go off like he did at full-time.

Daley needs to do the right thing, on behalf of the 7 million people in NSW, and resign. Walk out the door instead of being thrown out. They need to bring somebody else in there (and there's plenty of time to speculate) before a promising batch of youngsters become poisoned by this toothless, flat-track-bully culture that exists in the Blues right now. Laurie had his arse saved by the flukiest of wins in Game 3 last year (glossing over how close NSW came to losing with everything stacked in their favour)- but this was his series to answer the doubters, and he failed.

If tonight is what it takes for NSW to finally see the back of Laurie Daley and Mitchell Pearce, then it was worth it.
 

Liberate Souths

Juniors
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164
Qld have shown (like the Storm) that they rarely play two poor games in a row. They played a more composed game tonight and (despite the error count) were patient in how they went about adding to the score.

NSW remind me of Qld circa 2004-2005 right now. They had a young JT, Slater and Smith all showing signs of what's manifested since- but they lacked the maturity to consistently apply that pressure for 3 Origin games. In the 2004 and 2005 deciders, Qld were made to look second-rate by a polished, well-lead NSW team. Once players like Freddy/ Joey retired and the Maroons got someone like Meninga in- a respected figure who had the ability to lead? Then tables turned and the series wins came...

In similar fashion, right now there are a few younger players in this NSW squad who've done enough to show they've got big futures in front of them. But mentally they lack that killer instinct. That ability to land a knockout punch when it's needed, the discipline to weed out the stupid shit in their games that costs the team (looking at you, Wade Graham). This team would be a much better unit and more consistently play like the team we saw for the first 120 minutes of this years' series with different leadership- and that rests on the shoulders of Laurie Daley.

He has twice lost series he should have won (2013, 2017). As good as he was as a player, he is too nice, too reluctant to rock the boat and clearly lacks that killer instinct needed in an Origin coach. A fantastic player with great natural talent, but (like Wally Lewis) doesn't have what it takes to be successful as a coach at this level of the game. His demeanour just after half-time during that short interview told you everything- he looked lost for ideas, like a man already defeated- and it reflected on the team. This was his series to win- a coach with that ruthless attitude needed in Game 2 would've picked out JT, picked out Boyd and instructed his players to run at them all evening- pile on the points and smash Qld all the way to the final siren. Qld were bleeding, vulnerable, there for the taking- but Daley had nothing. Joey was right to go off like he did at full-time.

Daley needs to do the right thing, on behalf of the 7 million people in NSW, and resign. Walk out the door instead of being thrown out. They need to bring somebody else in there (and there's plenty of time to speculate) before a promising batch of youngsters become poisoned by this toothless, flat-track-bully culture that exists in the Blues right now. Laurie had his arse saved by the flukiest of wins in Game 3 last year (glossing over how close NSW came to losing with everything stacked in their favour)- but this was his series to answer the doubters, and he failed.

If tonight is what it takes for NSW to finally see the back of Laurie Daley and Mitchell Pearce, then it was worth it.
Awesome effort.
 

Shorty

Moderator
Staff member
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Qld have shown (like the Storm) that they rarely play two poor games in a row. They played a more composed game tonight and (despite the error count) were patient in how they went about adding to the score.

NSW remind me of Qld circa 2004-2005 right now. They had a young JT, Slater and Smith all showing signs of what's manifested since- but they lacked the maturity to consistently apply that pressure for 3 Origin games. In the 2004 and 2005 deciders, Qld were made to look second-rate by a polished, well-lead NSW team. Once players like Freddy/ Joey retired and the Maroons got someone like Meninga in- a respected figure who had the ability to lead? Then tables turned and the series wins came...

In similar fashion, right now there are a few younger players in this NSW squad who've done enough to show they've got big futures in front of them. But mentally they lack that killer instinct. That ability to land a knockout punch when it's needed, the discipline to weed out the stupid shit in their games that costs the team (looking at you, Wade Graham). This team would be a much better unit and more consistently play like the team we saw for the first 120 minutes of this years' series with different leadership- and that rests on the shoulders of Laurie Daley.

He has twice lost series he should have won (2013, 2017). As good as he was as a player, he is too nice, too reluctant to rock the boat and clearly lacks that killer instinct needed in an Origin coach. A fantastic player with great natural talent, but (like Wally Lewis) doesn't have what it takes to be successful as a coach at this level of the game. His demeanour just after half-time during that short interview told you everything- he looked lost for ideas, like a man already defeated- and it reflected on the team. This was his series to win- a coach with that ruthless attitude needed in Game 2 would've picked out JT, picked out Boyd and instructed his players to run at them all evening- pile on the points and smash Qld all the way to the final siren. Qld were bleeding, vulnerable, there for the taking- but Daley had nothing. Joey was right to go off like he did at full-time.

Daley needs to do the right thing, on behalf of the 7 million people in NSW, and resign. Walk out the door instead of being thrown out. They need to bring somebody else in there (and there's plenty of time to speculate) before a promising batch of youngsters become poisoned by this toothless, flat-track-bully culture that exists in the Blues right now. Laurie had his arse saved by the flukiest of wins in Game 3 last year (glossing over how close NSW came to losing with everything stacked in their favour)- but this was his series to answer the doubters, and he failed.

If tonight is what it takes for NSW to finally see the back of Laurie Daley and Mitchell Pearce, then it was worth it.
I'm sorry but NSW is nothing like that era of Queensland.
Queensland is just better, their players are better and the coaching is better.
It'll even up eventually but like the 90s Blues, this Queensland dominance won't be replicated any time soon.
Maybe in like 10 years the Blues might dominate but it won't be soon.
 

Noname36

First Grade
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7,067
Newcastle fans are crying into their lemonade as we speak

Why?

Despite how much it frustrates us that like most Qld players he puts in a lot more in Origin than he does club level, it's always good to see a long-term player of your club achieve something like that. In fact it shows potential recruits that playing for the Knights doesn't stop you from playing rep footy or being the player of the series.

The Knights have been good for Gagai and vice versa for a long time now but he won't be all that missed. He's only really lethal on the wing of a Qld backline - he doesn't produce enough consistently at centre or fullback at club level to be missed too greatly. Happy to see him achieve this though. He's a good kid who's turned his entire life around since leaving Brisbane and now he's seeing the rewards.
 

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