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2018 Crowd Watch

Mister M

Juniors
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Exactly. Geelong is the exception, but you simply cannot compare the distance between Penrith and Bondi to the distance between Richmond, st kilda, Carlton, north Melbourne, hawthorn, Fitzroy, Essendon etc.

But those clubs aren't pulling from their respective home areas, as I mentioned in my previous post.

The NRL will always have 'regional' based crowd figures when the clubs represent a geographical area of the city and not have supporters from across the city area.

We need to stop judging Cronulla Sharks for example as being in a city of 4+ million people, but being in a 'region' that has around 250-300 thousand people.
 
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They’re jealous that we can get out of town for a few days.
I got out permanently. But that’s another story.

Seems Raiderdave thinks I should go to every game at Southern Cross Group Stadium. I would if I could but unfortunately I cannot.

I must be a bad, bad supporter, or just lazy and do give a shit about my club!

Lmfao, doesn’t know the first thing about me, my involvement, my membership, my Support, or for that matter most he argues with, but hey we don’t go to every game, so we are poor suppoters.

f**k there are some dopey types in here
 
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But those clubs aren't pulling from their respective home areas, as I mentioned in my previous post.

The NRL will always have 'regional' based crowd figures when the clubs represent a geographical area of the city and not have supporters from across the city area.

We need to stop judging Cronulla Sharks for example as being in a city of 4+ million people, but being in a 'region' that has around 250-300 thousand people.
Plenty of Sydney clubs have massive support in the regional and interstate areas. Of course they won’t add significantly to crown numbers each week, but they will turn up to Games within reach of where they live.
 

Mister M

Juniors
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But those clubs aren't pulling from their respective home areas, as I mentioned in my previous post.

The NRL will always have 'regional' based crowd figures when the clubs represent a geographical area of the city and not have supporters from across the city area.

We need to stop judging Cronulla Sharks for example as being in a city of 4+ million people, but being in a 'region' that has around 250-300 thousand people.

Plenty of Sydney clubs have massive support in the regional and interstate areas. Of course they won’t add significantly to crown numbers each week, but they will turn up to Games within reach of where they live.

This is an example on why this thread turns into a shit-storm rather than actually has good conversations. I make a a suggestion that crowds within the Sydney region should be look at 'regionally' rather than as a whole city thing like you can with Brisbane or Melbourne.

The first response I get is some 'legend' getting defensive about how the Sydney clubs have massive support in regional and interstate areas, even if they don't change crowd figures.

I never said that Sydney clubs don't have supporters, I'm just trying to discuss a rationale reason as to why attendance levels are below what's expected.
 
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This is an example on why this thread turns into a shit-storm rather than actually has good conversations. I make a a suggestion that crowds within the Sydney region should be look at 'regionally' rather than as a whole city thing like you can with Brisbane or Melbourne.

The first response I get is some 'legend' getting defensive about how the Sydney clubs have massive support in regional and interstate areas, even if they don't change crowd figures.

I never said that Sydney clubs don't have supporters, I'm just trying to discuss a rationale reason as to why attendance levels are below what's expected.
No need to get all antsy. I don’t disagree with you, in fact you are spot in!

It’s the dopey wankers who decide to take pot shots at those that post in here for not going to games when they don’t even live in Sydney.

Usually those idiots don’t live in Sydney themselves, however seem to think they know all about it.
 

greenBV4

Bench
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Except the Cats. Geelong is 75km from Melbourne. Blowed if I know how they got the club to agree to play most of its home games in Melbourne.

Im guessing they weren't given a choice, and were just told they had to

Geelong's stadium holds around 35k
Moving the game to the MCG on Easter Monday got 74k

Its a pity the same cant be done in Sydney (for big games, not every game) because people "cant get out of their suburb because of traffic"

Im sure the many Geelong fans who had to drive up the highway and cross the West Gate weren't too happy about it but they did it anyway

Bad crowds in Sydney effects the game as a whole as long as the game's focus is on Sydney, non/semi interested people see that the game struggles to draw crowds in what is the codes "heartland" and might make assumptions that it mustn't be worth watching
 

titoelcolombiano

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there are plenty of places that do have enough passion for footy & would follow a team with just as much support as most poorly supported Sydney teams ( which is just about all of them )

Perth
2nd Brisbane
2nd NZ
Central QLD
Central Coast
Adelaide

they'd only need 12,000 odd fans for their home games to match most Sydney sides & they'd probably all do better then that

we're not talking about 6pm on a Friday
8 pm on a Thursday
wet inclement weather
you lazy slazy sods won't turn out on a sunny sunday at 4pm because its all too hard
well if that's the case theres no future for some of these Sydney clubs.

time to take it to people who appreciate our game & WILL make an effort
you can moan about how hard it is to go to games all you want , the game can't afford to carry excuse makers any longer
use it , or lose it

I try explaining this to Stallion constantly when he advocates for the Bears to return to the NRL and heal all wounds lol - they would just be another team plodding along with a stadium long past it's best and an average attendance of 12k.

There are however clubs in Sydney that have potential to be super-clubs of Australian sport (Parra, Dogs, Souths, Dragons, Tigers). These clubs deserve to be given more room to work in Sydney with a shiny new stadium and you will see them quickly become as big as Carton, Collingwood, Richmond and Essendon.
 

Timmah

LeagueUnlimited News Editor
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Except the Cats. Geelong is 75km from Melbourne. Blowed if I know how they got the club to agree to play most of its home games in Melbourne.
Because they didn't?

Geelong play at least 8 of 11 home games at Kardinia Park and have been lobbying for more.
 

Hank_Scorpio

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Because they didn't?

Geelong play at least 8 of 11 home games at Kardinia Park and have been lobbying for more.
Whilst that is an improvement for Geelong compared to a decade ago, it is obviously crowd driven as to why that is not 11 out of 11 based on traditional opponents and attendance expectations.

Would there be any uproar if Newcastle was forced to play 3 of their home games at Allianz, even with the chance to perhaps double their crowd number? Would that be accepted? Or is that simply an anomaly with the AFL? Does the NRL need to drive hard on centralising at least the marquee games and build some momentum in maximising attendances on these with the hope of then using that exposure on other games?
 

Timmah

LeagueUnlimited News Editor
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Whilst that is an improvement for Geelong compared to a decade ago, it is obviously crowd driven as to why that is not 11 out of 11 based on traditional opponents and attendance expectations.

Would there be any uproar if Newcastle was forced to play 3 of their home games at Allianz, even with the chance to perhaps double their crowd number? Would that be accepted? Or is that simply an anomaly with the AFL? Does the NRL need to drive hard on centralising at least the marquee games and build some momentum in maximising attendances on these with the hope of then using that exposure on other games?
Comparing Newcastle - 2 hours from Sydney CBD, with Geelong - barely an hour from Melbourne CBD, is utter stupidity.

As for "it's an improvement" and why it wasn't 11 out of 11, their home venue has only had the ability to host night football since 2013, that's almost certainly part of the reason they hosted a handful of games in Melbourne for a while.
 

Raiderdave

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I said places that don’t follow rugby league
Then you name 3 qld places
Nsw central coast
All rugby league areas

A NZ team debatable but the warriors suck so I’d imagine a 2nd NZ make them suck twice as much.

And then two joints who already had teams and were utter failures

You should be more concerned with your own joint

I don't care where they come from dummy , we couldn't do any worse then some of the sad sack outfits we have atm

time to cut the number of Sydney teams : )
 

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