2018 Crowd Watch

[Perth Red]

You're not answering the question. 35 degrees is irrelavant, yesterday's game kicked off at 40 degrees.

Can you think of any examples of the same happening in Perth? Yes or no will suffice.

Given the record March temp is 42degrees I’m pretty usre there would have been agame in March when it was 40degrees some time in the last century.

 

[Perth Red]

perth red will be hard at the thought of coming in here to whinge this weekend

The script is written already lol. I don’t whinge because I’m not disappointed, I fully expect sht crowds (under 15k) and am rarely disappointed most of the time.

 

[Perth Red]

Went to a luncheon a couple of years ago and the speaker was Andrew Demetriou, he spoke in detail about how in the late 80's the VFL was broke and going nowhere. The problem was all the self interest driven clubs who didnt want to see the game move outside Victoria had too much control.
Solution, they voted in an Independent Commission (backed by said clubs) that took control of the game, focused on long term goals such as club memberships, game day experience, revenue streams and expansion. They had a 20 year plan to have a local derby in every major city in Australia, their focus would not be on current supporters of other codes but rather the next generation.
He pointed out that the first 5 or so years were very rocky with discontent among clubs not liking having control taken away and basically finding their feet, but over time the results started to show. Fast forward 20 odd years later and they have achieved pretty much every KPI, almost all clubs have 50k+ members, their average crowd is in the mid 30k, record revenue through sponsorship and TV and they have a local derby in every major city.
I have not seen a strategic 20 year plan from the NRL, everything seems reactive. I agree totally with Mister M, we could do a lot worse than to learn from the AFL.

We had a 5 year plan. How did that go?

 

[beave]

Ask Phil Gould.

 

[barneybuck888]

"On top of that we have the Formula 1 Car Race , The AFL-W Grand Final, Game 3 of the NBL Finals, a Melbourne Rebels Home Game & a Melbourne City FC home game"

My God. Apart from the The Storm and AFL matches this weekend thats a massive amount of sport in one city.

 

[Raiderdave]

Comments like this are just ignorant.

The Round 1 AFL game in question between Richmond & Carlton will get a higher crowd than last years NRL Grand Final. Instead of taking pot shots at other sports, maybe we should look at what they do well?

what they do well ....
appeal to morons ?

 

[OldPanther]

AFL is a crap sport but it's run better, has more money and gets better crowds.

 

[Hank_Scorpio]

what they do well ....
appeal to morons ?

Regardless of your thoughts on the game, the fact they are expecting a round 1 crowd aggregate that will beat the first three rounds of NRL combined says something to how their fans are engaged with the game. Call it 'brainwashing' or a 'cult', it is still impressive. There is nothing wrong with recognising where others are doing something well and aim to replicate or better that position. The question is what do the NRL do well? We need to have multiple answers to that question that other codes can be envious of. SOO is an obvious example but we need more sustainable results that shows progression (i.e. memberships) from seemingly static performance measures in recent years.

 

[Canard]

Another shit Monday night crowd

 

[Timmah]

Central Coast stadium holds in excess of 20000. And their is no oversaturation in the three regions you label as Sydney . This "oversaturation " comment is purely a furfy aimed at mistakenly diluting the code and its relevance in this part of NSW . Very disrespectful and not good business or smart for the consolidation of the code in its major foundation region going forward.

While I agree that a CC team *could* be a good idea, it's fairly evident that the region would struggle to properly support a team long-term. The corporate support in particular isn't strong when you factor in the proximity to Newcastle and Sydney - and in turn that would make it difficult to attract top-quality talent

 

[Last Week]

We had a 5 year plan. How did that go?

Our f**kwit club representatives made their power plays, and are going to get it.

Just because the dot point list that Dave Smith set out wasn't met doesn't mean shit.

 

[Marlins]

"On top of that we have the Formula 1 Car Race , The AFL-W Grand Final, Game 3 of the NBL Finals, a Melbourne Rebels Home Game & a Melbourne City FC home game"

My God. Apart from the The Storm and AFL matches this weekend thats a massive amount of sport in one city.

On top of that
A 25K capped music festival is happening at Flemington race course on Saturday.

Plus Big Horse race meetings at mooney Valley and Caulfield race tracks.

 

[Hoofhearted]

The Storm have over 22k members, this is where the clubs have to get smart and work out how to get as many of them as possible to the game on these sort of occasions. Logically speaking you would think that if you were going to fork out for a membership the Grand Final replay against a team containing the two JT's should be one of the games that you would target to attend.

 

[azza29]

The Storm have over 22k members, this is where the clubs have to get smart and work out how to get as many of them as possible to the game on these sort of occasions. Logically speaking you would think that if you were going to fork out for a membership the Grand Final replay against a team containing the two JT's should be one of the games that you would target to attend.

Well I will be there.

One down, 21,999 to go I guess...

 

[Mister M]

The Storm have over 22k members, this is where the clubs have to get smart and work out how to get as many of them as possible to the game on these sort of occasions. Logically speaking you would think that if you were going to fork out for a membership the Grand Final replay against a team containing the two JT's should be one of the games that you would target to attend.

I agree, but due to varying circumstances I know that 6 members (my family & I) aren't attending this game due to the NRL's poor scheduling of this game. Circumstances that make it difficult for the Storm to get all of those 22,101 (current count) members to a game. I'm sure these circumstances aren't just individual to me and would impact quite a percentage of them.

My parents live in regional Victoria, thus they are unable to do the 3 hour drive to and from home to go to a game on a Thursday night when they book still work full time.

My sister and her husband have decided against going because it will take too long to get home after the game, they live in the outer northern suburbs. There regular train line (Hurstbridge line) is currently closed for upgrade works. This means a bus from Clifton Hill, double their travel time home from 50 minutes to 90 minutes. Due to the lack of parking options in the area they are unable to drive to the game, as the main parking area (the MCG/Yarra Park car park) is closed, leaving minimal parking options for 100,000 people going to games in the precinct. As the game finishes at 10pm, getting home at 11:30pm is too late on a school/work night.

Due to these reasons, it's just my fiancé and I going to a game on Thursday night. As someone who is both a Richmond AFL and Storm NRL supporter, what sounds more appealing? A Richmond game with 90,000+ in attendance where they will unfurl their premiership flag against a classic rival or going to AAMI Park to watch the Storm for the 3rd time this year (2nd in 5 days) against the last years Grand Final winning team, even if they have both JT's.

This entire thread is all about how people love a better atmosphere and crowd, of course I'm going to choose the 90,000+.

(and before people say I prefer AFL over NRL, I would say I support both equally-- I even flew to Sydney for the NRL Grand Final the day after the AFL one last year)

 

[OldPanther]

Well I will be there.

One down, 21,999 to go I guess...

Carpool.

I agree, but due to varying circumstances I know that 6 members (my family & I) aren't attending this game due to the NRL's poor scheduling of this game. Circumstances that make it difficult for the Storm to get all of those 22,101 (current count) members to a game. I'm sure these circumstances aren't just individual to me and would impact quite a percentage of them.

My parents live in regional Victoria, thus they are unable to do the 3 hour drive to and from home to go to a game on a Thursday night when they book still work full time.

My sister and her husband have decided against going because it will take too long to get home after the game, they live in the outer northern suburbs. There regular train line (Hurstbridge line) is currently closed for upgrade works. This means a bus from Clifton Hill, double their travel time home from 50 minutes to 90 minutes. Due to the lack of parking options in the area they are unable to drive to the game, as the main parking area (the MCG/Yarra Park car park) is closed, leaving minimal parking options for 100,000 people going to games in the precinct. As the game finishes at 10pm, getting home at 11:30pm is too late on a school/work night.

Due to these reasons, it's just my fiancé and I going to a game on Thursday night. As someone who is both a Richmond AFL and Storm NRL supporter, what sounds more appealing? A Richmond game with 90,000+ in attendance where they will unfurl their premiership flag against a classic rival or going to AAMI Park to watch the Storm for the 3rd time this year (2nd in 5 days) against the last years Grand Final winning team, even if they have both JT's.

This entire thread is all about how people love a better atmosphere and crowd, of course I'm going to choose the 90,000+.

(and before people say I prefer AFL over NRL, I would say I support both equally-- I even flew to Sydney for the NRL Grand Final the day after the AFL one last year)

Nothing wrong with that. Sounds like a big event. That's what the NRL need to learn to create.

 

[Hoofhearted]

I agree, but due to varying circumstances I know that 6 members (my family & I) aren't attending this game due to the NRL's poor scheduling of this game. Circumstances that make it difficult for the Storm to get all of those 22,101 (current count) members to a game. I'm sure these circumstances aren't just individual to me and would impact quite a percentage of them.

My parents live in regional Victoria, thus they are unable to do the 3 hour drive to and from home to go to a game on a Thursday night when they book still work full time.

My sister and her husband have decided against going because it will take too long to get home after the game, they live in the outer northern suburbs. There regular train line (Hurstbridge line) is currently closed for upgrade works. This means a bus from Clifton Hill, double their travel time home from 50 minutes to 90 minutes. Due to the lack of parking options in the area they are unable to drive to the game, as the main parking area (the MCG/Yarra Park car park) is closed, leaving minimal parking options for 100,000 people going to games in the precinct. As the game finishes at 10pm, getting home at 11:30pm is too late on a school/work night.

Due to these reasons, it's just my fiancé and I going to a game on Thursday night. As someone who is both a Richmond AFL and Storm NRL supporter, what sounds more appealing? A Richmond game with 90,000+ in attendance where they will unfurl their premiership flag against a classic rival or going to AAMI Park to watch the Storm for the 3rd time this year (2nd in 5 days) against the last years Grand Final winning team, even if they have both JT's.

This entire thread is all about how people love a better atmosphere and crowd, of course I'm going to choose the 90,000+.

(and before people say I prefer AFL over NRL, I would say I support both equally-- I even flew to Sydney for the NRL Grand Final the day after the AFL one last year)

All good points and goes to show the lunacy of the NRL actually making it difficult for fans to attend games.

 

[jim_57]

The Storm have over 22k members, this is where the clubs have to get smart and work out how to get as many of them as possible to the game on these sort of occasions. Logically speaking you would think that if you were going to fork out for a membership the Grand Final replay against a team containing the two JT's should be one of the games that you would target to attend.

Easy to say, harder in practice. I am a Cowboys fan living in Melbourne with a Storm membership to keep me sane.. and I can't make the game FFS, plenty of people would be in the same boat, memberships or not unfortunately. Honestly as well in this day and age even if someone CAN make a game it doesn't mean they will if it'll be a major inconvienience when they can watch it on TV and not spend the next 30mins + getting back home at 10pm on a Thursday.

 

[juro]

Not in Northern Sydney!

I live in northern Sydney. My son is a Tigers fan. His mates all have teams they follow (Bulldogs, Souths, Eels, Manly, Roosters, ...). His teacher goes for the Eels. His principal goes for the Dragons. And yes, this is a private school. There is maybe 5% of kids who follow the Swans.

From my experience, northern Sydney has largely moved on from the Bears. The next generation of kids have no idea who they were, unless their dad was a bitter old Bears fan.

 

[OldPanther]

Pretty sure union has more of a grip on northern sydney anyway.