2019 ASHES: 5th Test Australia v England, The Oval Sept 12-16

[Mr Spock!]

Identical to Paine as a tactical captain. Proven failure as a leader. Next!

If Smith captained we win this 5-0.

 

[Bazal]

If Smith captained we win this 5-0.

Yeah. I can make totally irrelevant hypothetical statements that can never be proven or disproven too... Fact is Smith is a weak tactician and his absolute failure of leadership in SA should have his papers stamped.

This is Australia though so he'll probably waltz back in because we're obsessed with making our best bat captain

 

[Front-Rower]

If Smith captained we win this 5-0.

Just like Davey’s second innings runs in England made him a must pick lol

 

[Front-Rower]

Yeah. I can make totally irrelevant hypothetical statements that can never be proven or disproven too... Fact is Smith is a weak tactician and his absolute failure of leadership in SA should have his papers stamped.

This is Australia though so he'll probably waltz back in because we're obsessed with making our best bat captain

Couldn’t agree more Baz

 

[Bgoodorgoodatit]

i don't know how to feel about this... ha-ha

 

[hineyrulz]

Why would you burden Smith with the captaincy?? As Baz has said he wasn’t that great a tactician to begin with. Just let him bat and bat and bat and bat and bat. Without captaincy his batting had gone to another level not worrying about anything but his batting, and if in the field he sees something he can always give a heads up to the skipper. Options are thin on the ground besides Paine, probably Oozie or Head and both are out of this test. It’s shows what an utter failure CA have been the last decade with a vacuum of test quality bats and a lack of leadership around the game.

 

[Eelectrica]

We're stuck with Paine as captain for another 5 tests most likely. If Smith isn't the answer at captain, who is?

We don't seem to have too many players even capable of retaining a spot in the team.

I guess that's why they default to giving the job to the best batsman, he's probably going to do just enough to not be dropped more often than not.

I'm not seeing too many tactical geniuses tbh.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

I predict a Western Australian will be the next captain.

A tall, very mediocre Western Australian with levers.

 

[The Mad Hatter]

We're stuck with Paine as captain for another 5 tests most likely. If Smith isn't the answer at captain, who is?

We don't seem to have too many players even capable of retaining a spot in the team.

I guess that's why they default to giving the job to the best batsman, he's probably going to do just enough to not be dropped more often than not.

I'm not seeing too many tactical geniuses tbh.

Josh Hazelwood should be captain.

 

[Eelectrica]

Josh Hazelwood should be captain.

And have Smith VC maybe? He can step in if Haze had to a game off for some reason.
Sounds like that could work

 

[bazza]

Wouldn't be surprised if picking Sidle, MMarsh and then bowling first is because of Lyons finger.

If they knew Lyon couldn't bowl - just go with 4 quicks and leave Head and Labushange as the spin options

 

[bazza]

Also that over rate holy f**k

Might be Australian bowlers tactic to get through the overs slowly so that Paine gets suspended for the next few tests

 

[AlwaysGreen]

I forgot to lol@root, yet again failing to convert.
16/45

 

[bazza]

Josh Hazelwood should be captain.

Him or Cummins
They are about the only 2 locks for the side currently besides Smith and Lyon

 

[bazza]

This is Siddle's second best none-fa for the series

 

[The Mad Hatter]

Him or Cummins
They are about the only 2 locks for the side currently besides Smith and Lyon

Correct.

Cummins or Hazelwood would be an excellent captain. Haze in particular.

 

[Mr Spock!]

We're stuck with Paine as captain for another 5 tests most likely. If Smith isn't the answer at captain, who is?

We don't seem to have too many players even capable of retaining a spot in the team.

I guess that's why they default to giving the job to the best batsman, he's probably going to do just enough to not be dropped more often than not.

I'm not seeing too many tactical geniuses tbh.

Look around world cricket.

There aren't too many tactical geniuses.

And what was wrong with Smith's captaincy apart from South Africa. He just come off blasting the poms again.

Only one batsman (an ex captain) demands selection.

But Paine is worse than poor.

 

[Mr Spock!]

Lol at those saying Smith isn't a tactical genius...Maybe compared to captaining the local division 4 team.

Captained 34 tests for 18 wins and 10 losses most of which were in the subcontinent.

 

[Mr Spock!]

If they knew Lyon couldn't bowl - just go with 4 quicks and leave Head and Labushange as the spin options

Yep basically picked Lyon to bat and field....

 

[Slackboy72]

Paine isn't a great captain. But he was, and still is, the only choice at the time after Smith soiled himself. At the time he was also the only choice for keeper.
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He is an okay captain by other countries standards. By our standards he's a big step-down.