2019 ASHES: 5th Test Australia v England, The Oval Sept 12-16

[Mr Spock!]

Correct.

Cummins or Hazelwood would be an excellent captain. Haze in particular.

On what basis? Do they captain any other teams?

Hazelwood was left out of the first test.

 

[Mr Spock!]

Yeah. I can make totally irrelevant hypothetical statements that can never be proven or disproven too... Fact is Smith is a weak tactician and his absolute failure of leadership in SA should have his papers stamped.

This is Australia though so he'll probably waltz back in because we're obsessed with making our best bat captain

Captaincy record is 18-10. Wasn't that much wrong with his captaincy. Didn';t f**k up too many drs's. Probably not as good as yours in the local Division 4 comp or Paine's though.

I suppose you'll be whinging when MMarsh is made captain.

 

[jargan83]

Pros: Woke up expecting us to be 2/10
Cons: England still batting

 

[The Mad Hatter]

On what basis? Do they captain any other teams?

Hazelwood was left out of the first test.

He's a nice guy.

 

[Mr Spock!]

He's a nice guy.

Lol, that's what's important.

So's Davey now.

Look at him grinning now when he gets a pair....

 

[bazza]

Yep basically picked Lyon to bat and field....

Also don't know why bowling first would be good for Lyon

 

[herbert henry1908]

Yeah. I can make totally irrelevant hypothetical statements that can never be proven or disproven too... Fact is Smith is a weak tactician and his absolute failure of leadership in SA should have his papers stamped.

This is Australia though so he'll probably waltz back in because we're obsessed with making our best bat captain

Who is your suggestion?

 

[bazza]

On what basis? Do they captain any other teams?

Hazelwood was left out of the first test.

Did Smith captain NSW before Australia?

 

[herbert henry1908]

Why would you burden Smith with the captaincy?? As Baz has said he wasn’t that great a tactician to begin with. Just let him bat and bat and bat and bat and bat. Without captaincy his batting had gone to another level not worrying about anything but his batting, and if in the field he sees something he can always give a heads up to the skipper. Options are thin on the ground besides Paine, probably Oozie or Head and both are out of this test. It’s shows what an utter failure CA have been the last decade with a vacuum of test quality bats and a lack of leadership around the game.

His batting average for the last series in Australia when he was captain was higher than this series. I’m not sure the captaincy was a burden.

 

[herbert henry1908]

I could see Cummins being captain, but given the bowler rotation & injury concerns I’m not sure that’s the way they’d go. But I’d be cool with giving him a shot, starting this summer.

 

[Bazal]

Captaincy record is 18-10. Wasn't that much wrong with his captaincy. Didn';t f**k up too many drs's. Probably not as good as yours in the local Division 4 comp or Paine's though.

I suppose you'll be whinging when MMarsh is made captain.

Lol he mad.

I haven't mentioned Mitch Marsh. You really do talk a lot of shit.

 

[Bazal]

Who is your suggestion?

Head or Cummins, at the moment. Hard to say really, but that also doesn't mean I'd want to go back to Smith just by default. He's a pretty poor captain.

 

[simmo1]

I can only assume old man Siddle was picked due to being least hungover after the 4th test. Probably straight to bed after 2 banana daiquiris.

 

[Bazal]

I can only assume old man Siddle was picked due to being least hungover after the 4th test. Probably straight to bed after 2 banana daiquiris.

Gluten free Fairtrade Pina coladas for the big fella

 

[hineyrulz]

His batting average for the last series in Australia when he was captain was higher than this series. I’m not sure the captaincy was a burden.

It was in South Africa, he allowed Warner and Bancroft to do what they did.


So you’d have to ask where his head was at?? It was a total failure of leadership as far as I’m concerned and if that wasn’t a burden I don’t know what is.

 

[Bazal]

It was in South Africa, he allowed Warner and Bancroft to do what they did.


So you’d have to ask where his head was at?? It was a total failure of leadership as far as I’m concerned and I that wasn’t a burden I don’t know what is.

But but but he won a handful of tests!

 

[The Mad Hatter]

They're just as likely to make someone a non-playing captain.

 

[Pete Cash]

Smith also let the game drift and ive no doubt he would be making the same errors Paine did. Maybe the toss if Paine just bottled it after seeing the tiniest bit of green and it wasnt a team decision Smith would have got right.

The lame tactics to the tail im sure they have some kind of computer program telling them what to do.

Smith wears his emotions on his sleeve and failed in his role in South Africa. Just let the guy bat without the pressure of leadership. Make him VC if people want the symbolism of him being completely forgiven by Australian cricket. He is well respected and any captain would listen to any ideas he has.

 

[TheParraboy]

They're just as likely to make someone a non-playing captain.

Surely we get the best in the business if that's the case

come of down Chappelli, hellava captain

 

[herbert henry1908]

Head or Cummins, at the moment. Hard to say really, but that also doesn't mean I'd want to go back to Smith just by default. He's a pretty poor captain.

But is there evidence Head is a good tactical captain? I’d rather experience of Smith unless it’s obvious the other captain is going to be much better.

Cummins we’re just taking a guess at, he hasn’t captained at any high level. But I’d still take a flyer on him this summer if it means moving on from Paine.