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Blues Riff

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Be thankful that our squad has so many guys of decent character with leadership qualities. A lot of teams would be scraping to name 2 or 3.
Of course a captain will be named.
 

Blues Riff

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Everyone in the squad would feel comfortable confiding in at least one of these leaders. They meet once a week, issues get discussed, greivances aired, problems sorted, the rot doesn't set in.
 

franklin2323

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Everyone in the squad would feel comfortable confiding in at least one of these leaders. They meet once a week, issues get discussed, greivances aired, problems sorted, the rot doesn't set in.

They wouldn't do it anyway? When Whare was signed part of that was to help the Islander boys with life in Australia etc. No reason the others couldn't without an a title
 

Crashtest

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If he’s doing the same thing as he did at the tigers it is 6 captains.

At the Tigers though he was trying to change the whole culture of the club in a short time frame and deemed it too big a job for just one person. And to be fair to Cleary, it worked at the Tigers last season in turning a basket case club into genuine final contenders for most of the season, even with one of the weakest rosters in the comp.

But at Panthers, they already have a strong team culture, so he won't need to name 6 captains to help drastically change things. Just needs to provide support for whoever he picks as captain, with a strong leadership group, which is what he has done.
 

Pomoz

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Young men need a clear leader, not a committee.
That's a sweeping statement and one I don't agree with. My experience with young men is that the more leaders they have that can inspire them and give them examples of how to behave, the better. Why is it everybody wants a demi-god leadership model? Leaders are pilloried for having assistants and seeking help from consultants, but no one individual can possibly have all the answers and the best leaders know that and get help whenever possible. Why not a group of inspired individuals all contributing and helping the larger group achieve their goals? The captain has the final call, but he will be stronger and better for having that group to help him.

I think young players will look up to that group. I would hope that a young player would aspire to be in the leadership group because they see that group made up of players with great leadership qualities. It is a sign of recognition of your behaviour and qualities as a player, on and off the field.

That said, I understand where you are coming from about committees, a Camel was after all, a horse designed by a committee, but don't confuse authority with leadership. As long as it's clear who makes the decisions on the field when somebody has to make a call, then having a leadership group is not a problem and a good captain will use them to help the team improve.
 
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That's a sweeping statement and one I don't agree with. My experience with young men is that the more leaders they have that can inspire them and give them examples of how to behave, the better. Why is it everybody wants a demi-god leadership model? Leaders are pilloried for having assistants and seeking help from consultants, but no one individual can possibly have all the answers and the best leaders know that and get help whenever possible. Why not a group of inspired individuals all contributing and helping the larger group achieve their goals? The captain has the final call, but he will be stronger and better for having that group to help him.

I think young players will look up to that group. I would hope that a young player would aspire to be in the leadership group because they see that group made up of players with great leadership qualities. It is a sign of recognition of your behaviour and qualities as a player, on and off the field.

That said, I understand where you are coming from about committees, a Camel was after all, a horse designed by a committee, but don't confuse authority with leadership. As long as it's clear who makes the decisions on the field when somebody has to make a call, then having a leadership group is not a problem and a good captain will use them to help the team improve.


I was clearly talking about the specific context of the footy field.
 

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