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OldPanther

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It will very likely be Jerome there in round 1 but if Burto is good enough to jag first crack at it we should get excited.

Definitely. Funny thing is the Cleary's look very close so Nathan and Ivan surely discuss this stuff and Luai is named so he could've said that but it seems like he was being honest not really thinking about it.
 

betcats

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Definitely. Funny thing is the Cleary's look very close so Nathan and Ivan surely discuss this stuff and Luai is named so he could've said that but it seems like he was being honest not really thinking about it.

Maybe they don't want Jerome to comfortable that it is his spot, but that only works if Burton is available from round 1. I think he was just being genuine though, bit early for mind games or smoke screens.
 

franklin2323

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They named 27, if they only had to name 24 then why name Mcgrady & Blore at all?

Depends where the list came from. Maybe we haven't offically registered Laurie, Burton etc this year. McGrady was signed for 2 years so maybe he is in the NRL database and that is where the list came from
 

mxlegend99

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Huh?

It was the official NRL announcement of squads, obviously the club provided the list to the NRL.
If the NRL sourced it from a database they would surely have sourced a full list... and you would think their guess would include aplayer who played NRL ahead of players that didn't.

I mean it's possible he's part of it... or ends up being due to no signings. But all the evidence so far pointing to it is pretty flimsy. More evidence to suggest he isn't IMO.

But I cant see us getting any worthwhile signings so we are likely to have to promote him.
 

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Didn't Tamou talk about Luai/Cleary as the combo? I don't think he even mentioned Burton.

If Luai aint 6 round 1 I'll be shocked. Easily the most natural talent of the 3 halves and our best chances of scoring points.
 

mxlegend99

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Cleary talking about Burton being an option and Luai being an "if" is not flimsy at all.
It is flimsy. He doesn't need to be part of the top 30 to be an option. He proved that in 2019.

If he's a development player he's an option after June 30 regardless and if Luai gets injured we could get an exemption as we did this year. It could mean anything when he doesn't clarify it. Hes talking about his game more than anything. Whoever is 6 he needs to play a different role to Jimmy.
 

betcats

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Didn't Tamou talk about Luai/Cleary as the combo? I don't think he even mentioned Burton.

If Luai aint 6 round 1 I'll be shocked. Easily the most natural talent of the 3 halves and our best chances of scoring points.

He said “no disrespect to to anyone else here but I think it should be Jerome” he was giving an opinion on who should get picked as if there is more than one option(keep in mind the only halves are blore who is hurt and may)

That article did mention Burton btw.
 
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betcats

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It is flimsy. He doesn't need to be part of the top 30 to be an option. He proved that in 2019.

If he's a development player he's an option after June 30 regardless and if Luai gets injured we could get an exemption as we did this year. It could mean anything when he doesn't clarify it.


No Mx, If Luai is fit Burton will not get an exemption so no it’s not that. Nathan’s comments make it pretty clear they are undecided who will be the 6, how are you disputing that? What do you think IF means? The article about Barrett the other day also said Burton will be fighting with Luai for the spot.
 

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No Mx, If Luai is fit Burton will not get an exemption so no it’s not that. Nathan’s comments make it pretty clear they are undecided who will be the 6. The article about Barrett the other day also said Burton will be fighting with Luai for the spot.
Ffs. Thats how you WANT it to be interpreted. That is a possibility.

But there's also a possibility he and Barrett are referring to the fact Burton will be eligible after June 30. The statements clarify nothing that contradicts him being a development player. Whether he is or isn't... everything said easily still applies to a development player.

Hence it being flimsy. Im not saying there's no chance he isn't. Just not to get too excited by comments that don't prove anything one way or the other.
 

betcats

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Ffs. Thats how you WANT it to be interpreted. That is a possibility.

But there's also a possibility he and Barrett are referring to the fact Burton will be eligible after June 30. The statements clarify nothing that contradicts him being a development player. Whether he is or isn't... everything said easily still applies to a development player.

Hence it being flimsy. Im not saying there's no chance he isn't. Just not to get too excited by comments that don't prove anything one way or the other.

"IF he is the five eighth" that isn't open to interpretation mate I am not an nrl ref. Also look at Tamou's talking up Jerome, its clear from the "no disrespect to anyone else here" comment that there is more than one option fighting for the 6 jumper, who are the "anyone else" Tamou was referring to?

Barrett wasn't quoted in that article I don't think, it was just the article mentioning Burto.
 
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betcats

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People should look at the squad we put out like one Ivans teamlist, it is definitely going to change.
 

mxlegend99

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"IF he is the five eighth" that isn't open to interpretation mate I am not an nrl ref. Also look at Tamou's talking up Jerome, its clear from the "no disrespect to anyone else here" comment that there is more than one option fighting for the 6 jumper, who are the "anyone else" Tamou was referring to?

Barrett wasn't quoted in that article I don't think, it was just the article mentioning Burto.
Youre right. The word if. No timeframe mentioned at all. In the context of talking about his own role in the team.

That's as definitive as it gets.
 

betcats

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Youre right. The word if. No timeframe mentioned at all. In the context of talking about his own role in the team.

That's as definitive as it gets.

No, its that line combined with him mentioning Burton by name in the same article as an option that is definitive. There is another article that literally says Burto is fighting for the spot plus Tamou's comments, you really don't have much to dispute it Mx, so there is that also. There is absolutely no mention of Luai first and then Burton later in the year(june 30), none at all. No mention of a possible exemption for burto, none at all. Everything Nathan said, and Tamou, make out that it is a battle for the spot. Burton has never been confirmed as a development player, he has debuted why would he be put on a development contract? makes zero sense. You are assuming a lot more than I am and you are ignoring a clear statement from our halfback and coaches son that Jerome is not locked in as the 6.
 
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mxlegend99

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No, its that line combined with him mentioning Burton by name in the same article as an option that is definitive. There is another article that literally says Burto is fighting for the spot plus Tamou's comments, you really don't have much to dispute it Mx, so there is that also. There is absolutely no mention of Luai first and then Burton later in the year(june 30), none at all. No mention of a possible exemption for burto, none at all. Everything Nathan said, and Tamou, make out that it is a battle for the spot. Burton has never been confirmed as a development player, he has debuted why would he be put on a development contract? makes zero sense. You are assuming a lot more than I am and you are ignoring a clear statement from our halfback and coaches son that Jerome is not locked in as the 6.
I agreed. He used the word if. That is as definitive as it gets.

Couldnt possibly mean anything else.
 

franklin2323

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Huh?

It was the official NRL announcement of squads, obviously the club provided the list to the NRL.

The day after it was annouced there were like 5 signings non of whom were on the list. Why would Canberra for example not send them Sam Williams on the list if he was re-signing?
 

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