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2021 Rabbitohs Injuries And Suspensions

Souths Till I Die

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People are forgetting Latrell had carryover points. Him and Jack Hetherington both would of only got 2 weeks if they didn't have the loading points. 2 weeks is a fair punishment for what happened. He was reckless. You can't argue against it. We tried but the NRL is trying to stamp this shit out of the game.

As Souths supporters we need to encourage Latrell to get the brain snaps out of his game because its costing him time on the field.
 

Travitoh

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I have no issue with Latrell's suspension for high contact. Completely outlawing contact to the head is where the NRL's attempts to prevent head injuries should begin.

Latrell's actions may not have caused injury but they were deliberate and he has a record of grubby behaviour.

Like Walker a couple of weeks ago, it was dumb, potentially damaging to the team and their actions shouldn't be defended.
 

Rabbits20

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People are forgetting Latrell had carryover points. Him and Jack Hetherington both would of only got 2 weeks if they didn't have the loading points. 2 weeks is a fair punishment for what happened. He was reckless. You can't argue against it. We tried but the NRL is trying to stamp this shit out of the game.

As Souths supporters we need to encourage Latrell to get the brain snaps out of his game because its costing him time on the field.
Agree but then we have the Roosters getting away with murder at the judiciary it’s just wrong.
 

Travitoh

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As far as the judiciary is concerned, it got both Mitchell and Radley right imo. Mitchell knowingly lashed out and made contact with the head, Radley executed a poor tackle. The two are like apples and oranges. The hefty punishment for Mitchell was because of his previous record.

It's upto the NRL to get tougher with poor tackles that hit the head. The NRL are the ones who create the rules, the judiciary only enforces them.
 

assess5

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As far as the judiciary is concerned, it got both Mitchell and Radley right imo. Mitchell knowingly lashed out and made contact with the head, Radley executed a poor tackle. The two are like apples and oranges. The hefty punishment for Mitchell was because of his previous record.

It's upto the NRL to get tougher with poor tackles that hit the head. The NRL are the ones who create the rules, the judiciary only enforces them.

Rugby Union came down hard on EVERY tackle above the shoulders.
They immediately had players sent from the field and those players received censure appropriate to the offense with NO favorites played and no bullshit carry over points, no 'if you plead guilty early you get a lighter sentence.
Rugby Union have achieved success in cleaning up their game and thereby protecting their players.
 

Travitoh

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Rugby Union came down hard on EVERY tackle above the shoulders.
They immediately had players sent from the field and those players received censure appropriate to the offense with NO favorites played and no bullshit carry over points, no 'if you plead guilty early you get a lighter sentence.
Rugby Union have achieved success in cleaning up their game and thereby protecting their players.

This is the road that most sports are going down and the NRL needs to follow or risk being left in the rear view mirror.
 

Rabbits20

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As far as the judiciary is concerned, it got both Mitchell and Radley right imo. Mitchell knowingly lashed out and made contact with the head, Radley executed a poor tackle. The two are like apples and oranges. The hefty punishment for Mitchell was because of his previous record.

It's upto the NRL to get tougher with poor tackles that hit the head. The NRL are the ones who create the rules, the judiciary only enforces them.
Sorry I disagree
 

Rabbits20

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As far as the judiciary is concerned, it got both Mitchell and Radley right imo. Mitchell knowingly lashed out and made contact with the head, Radley executed a poor tackle. The two are like apples and oranges. The hefty punishment for Mitchell was because of his previous record.

It's upto the NRL to get tougher with poor tackles that hit the head. The NRL are the ones who create the rules, the judiciary only enforces them.
I don’t agree with the system in place.

Also I don’t think Radley should’ve got the downgrade. He got off last time as well.

also have you seen the kick to the Sharks player Radley did the other week? If Trell did that its4 weeks out at least......



How did Radley get nothing for this?

Also the last two weeks Kikau has done head high tackles and got nothing.

Barnett kneed a Sharks player in the back after they scored a try. Luai elbowed a Knights player in the neck last night and I think got nothing.....

Do you see what Souths as a club are getting at @Travitoh? See the trend here?

I just went to the barber and I have known the guy for 13 years diehard Dragons fan and he said 1-2 weeks for Trell not 4. He said it was a grade 1 and they are trying to drive Latrell out of the game in his view and this is coming from a Dragons fan......
 

handyman2190

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That's fine but can i ask what it is you disagree with? Me or the rules that are in place? Because if it's the latter, we're on the same page, unfortunately the NRL isn't.
We disagree with the grade, 2 it should have been a 1 and 2 weeks. It was a flick, he wasnt even looking,ok it may be termed reckless but 2 weeks is enough.
We are now on the verge of 3 out of 4 loses. They have screwed us
 

Travitoh

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I don’t agree with the system in place.

Also I don’t think Radley should’ve got the downgrade. He got off last time as well.

also have you seen the kick to the Sharks player Radley did the other week? If Trell did that its4 weeks out at least......



How did Radley get nothing for this?

Also the last two weeks Kikau has done head high tackles and got nothing.

Barnett kneed a Sharks player in the back after they scored a try. Luai elbowed a Knights player in the neck last night and I think got nothing.....

Do you see what Souths as a club are getting at @Travitoh? See the trend here?

I just went to the barber and I have known the guy for 13 years diehard Dragons fan and he said 1-2 weeks for Trell not 4. He said it was a grade 1 and they are trying to drive Latrell out of the game in his view and this is coming from a Dragons fan......

Agreed, it's the system put in place by the NRL that is the problem.

If they're out to get Souths though, why did Cody only get a week for elbowing a guy in the back of the head after Kaufusi got two for a similar incident? He also escaped punishment for stamping on another in the same game.

High tackles very rarely attract bans because that is how the rule currently is. It stinks, it needs to be fixed but it is also unrelated to Latrell striking out at an opponent off the ball.

It doesn't matter if Latrell wasn't looking at him, or didn't intend to make contact, the action was deliberate and that is what should be judged. Same with him 'kicking out' at Garner. I didn't believe it warranted suspension, Garner was hanging onto his leg but it wasn't an innocent action. It was careless and he had no regard for the wellbeing of the opposing player.

Player wellbeing begins with player actions and the sooner the NRL enforces that in their rules, the sooner we'll see a decline in head injuries amongst the players.

And if there is an issue with Souths players being incorrectly banned, maybe the club needs better lawyers to represent it's players.
 

Travitoh

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We disagree with the grade, 2 it should have been a 1 and 2 weeks. It was a flick, he wasnt even looking,ok it may be termed reckless but 2 weeks is enough.
We are now on the verge of 3 out of 4 loses. They have screwed us

He intentionally struck out at an opponent and got him high. The fact he wasn't looking shows how little he cared for his opponents wellbeing. 4 on the surface is steep but that's due to his prior record. He has a history of unnecessary aggressive behaviour and this has only added to it.
 

handyman2190

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He intentionally struck out at an opponent and got him high. The fact he wasn't looking shows how little he cared for his opponents wellbeing. 4 on the surface is steep but that's due to his prior record. He has a history of unnecessary aggressive behaviour and this has only added to it.
Sorry,i dont agree with your statement,not looking because he dosent care about his oponents well being, what kind of rubbish statement is that? He was looking at the ball, were did u expect him to look? At his oponents throat? Honestly if it was me i wouldnt give 2 stuffs about my oponent,its eat or be eaten, Wake up!! He was following the play, he probably didnt know were his hands were,same with the garner leg flick, why was garner holding onto his foot? So he couldnt involve himself in the play, again latrell was following the play,then dog garner won the academy award as if the boot struck him, he is a dog, he deserved a kick in the face, freddy even said let go of his leg,why didnt he let go.
The judiciary, is biased,they have been there too long and i feel they cant be objective and need replacing regularly
 

callmack1

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From the Daily Telegraph, loving Latrell's attitude!!!

Latrell Mitchell opens up after NRL ban

Latrell Mitchell reveals he’s “disappointed” in first interview since being controversially rubbed out for four weeks by the judiciary.

Latrell Mitchell won’t be going home to Taree to spend the next month on his farm.

Despite a four-week suspension, the superstar fullback has vowed to return to football in round 11 in great shape for the South Sydney Rabbitohs.

“I’m very disappointed I’m not playing for four weeks and it will be hard watching the boys each week,” said Mitchell, in his first interview since being controversially rubbed out for four weeks by the judiciary from incidents during last weekend’s game against Wests Tigers.

“I’ll be working hard over the next month to ensure I’m ready to go for round 11.

“My main aim is to stay fit and win the premiership this year — I know we have the team to do it.”

South Sydney chief executive Blake Solly said Mitchell remained fully focused.

“Latrell showed in the way he recovered from the serious hamstring injury last year that he has got real resilience,” Solly said.

“Whatever the setback is, he’s got the passion and pride in his performance to come back better than ever.

“It was a nasty injury. He didn’t sulk. He didn’t feel sorry for himself. He just threw himself into his rehab.”

Latrell flew to the Gold Coast with the rest of the Rabbitohs team for the Titans match on Friday night.

“That’s a measure of his growing leadership,” Solly said. “Not only did he want to do it, but Wayne and the coaching staff thought it was important for him to be around the team because of his influence around the team.”



Legal eagle shares radical plan to shake up NRL judiciary

By Adrian Proszenko
April 25, 2021 — 5.35am

The go-to lawyer for NRL stars has called for a radical overhaul of the judiciary system that includes the players’ union helping to fund and select panellists to ensure the system is truly independent.

The NRL will undertake a holistic evaluation of the match review and judiciary processes at the end of the season, a move welcomed by South Sydney. The Rabbitohs are aggrieved that Latrell Mitchell has been suspended for a month after he was unable to earn a downgrade on a grade-two dangerous contact charge for an incident involving Wests Tigers winger David Nofoaluma.

Souths believe the system is flawed and will furnish the NRL with a number of recommendations after consulting with Nick Ghabar. The prominent lawyer, who has acted for players in more than 100 cases during the past decade, shared his blueprint for change with The Sun-Herald.

His proposals include:

The Rugby League Players Association helping to fund, train and select panellists to ensure the judiciary process is perceived as truly independent;
Limiting the number of panellists to just two former players, with the judiciary chairman providing a casting vote only if there is a deadlock;
Capping loading at 25 per cent, whether it be for similar or different offences;
Panellists to be made aware of loading and carry-over points before delivering verdicts to ensure they understand the consequences of their decision.
“The panel currently isn’t perceived to be independent and that’s part of the problem,” Ghabar said.

“There is a thing in law called an apprehension of bias, where you are going to be biased towards those who fund you.

“It’s hard to put out of your mind that the NRL pays these panel members. They are hand-picked, trained and then paid by the NRL, so you tell me how they are independent?

“It’s not a massive amount of money, but it should half be paid by the NRL and half the players’ association. The RLPA should also have a say in which panel members are elected and be part of that training and veto process.”

Ghabar believes that judiciary chairman Geoff Bellew should have a greater say in the outcome of cases due to his specialised knowledge in the field.

“It should be two [former] players and a chair, not three players,” Ghabar said. “The judiciary chair has a casting vote if they are split. If they are agreed, he won’t need to vote.”

Souths coach Wayne Bennett lashed out at the three charges Mitchell received, claiming none of them deserved a suspension. The veteran mentor won’t have the star fullback for a further three games after the Rabbitohs defeated the Titans without him on Friday night.

Ghabar said there were too many different types of charges and that all loading for previous offences should be capped at 25 per cent. Currently, loading for similar offences is 50 per cent, while for different charges it is 20 per cent.

“They give you a 25 per cent discount for an early guilty plea, so it’s only fair they give you 25 per cent loading for any offence,” he said.

At present, the panellists hand down findings without being made aware of loadings or carry-over points from previous offences. Ghabar said it often resulted in heavy-handed decisions .

“They should know if they find a bloke guilty of a grade two, for instance, that he is sitting out for four weeks,” he said.

Despite being sidelined, Mitchell remains in the headlines. The NRL and the Rabbitohs have lauded Mitchell for calling out racist taunts on social media, which helped lead to the arrest of two people. The former Roosters back is scheduled to speak publicly about the issue at a press conference on Monday.
 

Mad Bunny

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I personally think latrell should had got 2 weeks i suggest latrell needs to have a good long look in the mirror he has let us all down and himself.we have had to make a few massive positional changes because of latrell's hot headed stupidity we had to put our #1 try scorer johnston at fb which damages our back line extremely, then put gagai in Johnston's wing spot. And losing mansour thru injury and putting paulo in his place is a complete disaster!!!
 

Travitoh

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Panellists to be made aware of loading and carry-over points before delivering verdicts to ensure they understand the consequences of their decision

If a judiciary panel is going to give a 'lighter' punishment because of prior loadings, it defeats the purpose of the entire system.

Do away with carry over points. They're unnecessary. Though keep the points system and loading for similar prior incidents. Players with a past record should get punished heavier than a player who doesn't.

Really good write up and a lot of it i can agree with. Especially involving the NRLPA which in hindsight, i find odd that they aren't involved.
 

Mad Bunny

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Its my belief that burns,moga,milne are now close to being 100% fit if so i suggest...

A. burns should take jaxson paulo spot.

B. Put tautau moga in the centres with benji marshall and use graham on the wing instead of jaxson paulo that way we have graham & gagai as our wingers and put johnston back at full back.

C. Our weakest link in our team is jaxson paulo all coachs/clubs bombard him with kicks or they run straight at him knowing he is an easy target to get through. jaxson paulo looks like a deer running into a pair of head lights/no idea!!! Our up coming game in 2 weeks time such as Melbourne will smash paulo I can't look it sickens me why bennett uses him he must be a great trainer at practice sessions at redfern & erskineville to get a start on game day but on game day he becomes a flop on game day shreeeeeek!!!

So what should be our current top 5? Till latrell & mansour return. I suggest this below if burns is good to go.And play 4 forwards off the bench unless taafe gets a debut bench spot...

1. Johnston
2. Gagai
3. Graham
4. Benji
5. Burns.
 

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