2022 NRL ratings

[Phil McGrawhan]

No I haven’t, now you’re just lying. The deal is $12,8mill a year cash and contra increase sky nz and $5mill contra a year nine more according to the reports that have been published. Fox have paid nothing more, nine have paid no more cash. Expansion has brought in nothing. Staggering and hard to believe I know! Anyway this is ratings thread, we’ve done this to death in the deal thread. I‘ve given you the facts enough times continue to ignore them if you must, for full details read the 2023- deal thread if you dare lol.

Lol not even two lines into his post & the chant comes out
SKY NZ
CONTRA

Lol how very predictable

 

[baselinepanther]

but but but

me no lie

 

[The_Wookie]

 

[Billythekid]

Seems like Kayo has barely impacted fox numbers. Near 560K between the 2 seems absolutely bonkers.

 

[The Penguin #6.]

Couldn`t help noticing on the TV Tonight`s website`s `20 most watched FTA shows for Friday night` that although the fumbleball came in at number 10 the viewing numbers for Melbourne (281k) were picked from a game between two Melbourne teams and the Adelaide figure (183k) was from the Adelaide number between the two South Australian teams. A little misleading really when they lump the lot in together and then claim to have had the 10th most watched program.
I believe this is the sticking point why Foxtel wouldn`t extend beyond 2024 because they are unhappy with this afl trick of telecasting the home states` team`s games into their state thus meaning viewers don`t generally have to have Foxtel to see their home team each week.
I read that as long as the afl and Seven continued doing this Foxtel didn`t want to continue paying as much at is. Will be interesting to see how this affects their negotiations beyond 2024.

 

[baselinepanther]

Couldn`t help noticing on the TV Tonight`s website`s `20 most watched FTA shows for Friday night` that although the fumbleball came in at number 10 the viewing numbers for Melbourne (281k) were picked from a game between two Melbourne teams and the Adelaide figure (183k) was from the Adelaide number between the two South Australian teams. A little misleading really when they lump the lot in together and then claim to have had the 10th most watched program.
I believe this is the sticking point why Foxtel wouldn`t extend beyond 2024 because they are unhappy with this afl trick of telecasting the home states` team`s games into their state thus meaning viewers don`t generally have to have Foxtel to see their home team each week.
I read that as long as the afl and Seven continued doing this Foxtel didn`t want to continue paying as much at is. Will be interesting to see how this affects their negotiations beyond 2024.

they've played that trick for a while now
making it look like one game got X , when infact it didn't & wouldn't have either if all markets had got the game from melbourne in this example ..
that 183K from adelaide might have been 60K for an all melb match. foxtel haven't really adjusted the value they place in the fumbles n bumbles since murdoch punished David Smith & the NRL for their insolence a while back , but trust me its coming.

 

[The Penguin #6.]

but trust me its coming.

Can I please have that guaranteed in writing.

 

[The_Wookie]

 

[The_Wookie]

Couldn`t help noticing on the TV Tonight`s website`s `20 most watched FTA shows for Friday night` that although the fumbleball came in at number 10 the viewing numbers for Melbourne (281k) were picked from a game between two Melbourne teams and the Adelaide figure (183k) was from the Adelaide number between the two South Australian teams. A little misleading really when they lump the lot in together and then claim to have had the 10th most watched program.

Sevens ratings are released as national/metro broadcast figures - whatever games are on come under the same umbrella for programming and ratings purposes. Nine did this for years too when the NRL ran separate live broadcasts in Brisbane and Sydney on a Friday night.

I believe this is the sticking point why Foxtel wouldn`t extend beyond 2024 because they are unhappy with this afl trick of telecasting the home states` team`s games into their state thus meaning viewers don`t generally have to have Foxtel to see their home team each week.
I read that as long as the afl and Seven continued doing this Foxtel didn`t want to continue paying as much at is. Will be interesting to see how this affects their negotiations beyond 2024.

Fox and Seven have both had issues with the simulcasting arrangements over the years. Expect more games to be shown on delay on Perth and Adelaide in the next round of rights.

they've played that trick for a while now
making it look like one game got X , when infact it didn't & wouldn't have either if all markets had got the game from melbourne in this example .. that 183K from adelaide might have been 60K for an all melb match.

Its not so much a trick if you simply look at the AFLs broadcast guide for the round. The NRL and Nine did the same thing when Nine used to broadcast separate live games into Brisbane and Sydney under the same programming and ratings release.

foxtel haven't really adjusted the value they place in the fumbles n bumbles since murdoch punished David Smith & the NRL for their insolence a while back , but trust me its coming.

is it really though. I mean pundits like Masters have said that the AFL has been overvalued by Foxtel since 2007.

 

[The Penguin #6.]

Fox and Seven have both had issues with the simulcasting arrangements over the years. Expect more games to be shown on delay on Perth and Adelaide in the next round of rights.

So you`re saying that the home games will be shown on delay on Seven so Foxtel get first dibs or on delay on Foxtel ?

 

[baselinepanther]

The NRL and Nine did the same thing when Nine used to broadcast separate live games into Brisbane and Sydney under the same programming and ratings release.

ah no not really the same thing , because there was no simulcasting in those days ,
so one market didn't get to see a live game completely adversely affecting ratings for 1/3 of the NRL's FTA broadcasts to NSW & QLD, like they couldn't access it live ..

unlike the " trick" 7/awful used on friday
where you could still have watched either game live on STV regardless of where you were

 

[Starkers]

seems like NRL numbers are very solid. well done to us!

 

[baselinepanther]

So you`re saying that the home games will be shown on delay on Seven so Foxtel get first dibs or on delay on Foxtel ?

either of the above will affect the $$ offered by either broadcaster

 

[The_Wookie]

So you`re saying that the home games will be shown on delay on Seven so Foxtel get first dibs or on delay on Foxtel ?

The arrangements were changed a couple of years ago to allow for 3 games for each of the SA and WA sides to be broadcast on delay on FTA to allow Fox to show exclusive live. I expect this to become more the norm in the next round.

 

[The_Wookie]

ah no not really the same thing , because there was no simulcasting in those days ,
so one market didn't get to see a live game completely adversely affecting ratings for 1/3 of the NRL's FTA broadcasts to NSW & QLD, like they couldn't access it live ..

unlike the " trick" 7/awful used on friday
where you could still have watched either game live on STV regardless of where you were

Its a "trick" that theyve been using since they mandated local FTA broadcasts in Perth, Adelaide, Brisbane and Sydney. This isnt something they just cooked up for Friday night - its been happening for years on Saturday and Sunday. Its been prevalent since simulcasting became a thing - but Seven have always split the matches in the broadcast going back to the 90s.

Its why when Seven reports its ratings its for the broadcast program not a specific match, and why theres a big difference between broadcast average and match average.

 

[baselinepanther]

Its a "trick" that theyve been using since they mandated local FTA broadcasts in Perth, Adelaide, Brisbane and Sydney. This isnt something they just cooked up for Friday night - its been happening for years on Saturday and Sunday. Its been prevalent since simulcasting became a thing - but Seven have always split the matches in the broadcast going back to the 90s.

Its why when Seven reports its ratings its for the broadcast program not a specific match, and why theres a big difference between broadcast average and match average.

i wouldn't care if it was was used since the inception of TV , the figures the way they're reported aren't as big as they appear
game 1.. in one major market ( Melb) & 2 minor Markets ( Syd & Brisb)
game 2 ... in Adelaide on FTA & STV
game 3 ... in Perth on FTA & STV

the 2 local targeted markets would get double the ratings minimum they'd normally get then if they had to watch the game from Melb not involving the local sides
but they're all lumped together when reported on the FTA ratings to pump up the total
its a trick
nothing surer

fridays figure of 183K in Adelaide added to the game from Melbs metro figures is this " trick ".. par excellence

 

[The Penguin #6.]

i wouldn't care if it was was used since the inception of TV , the figures the way they're reported aren't as big as they appear
game 1.. in one major market ( Melb) & 2 minor Markets ( Syd & Brisb)
game 2 ... in Adelaide on FTA & STV
game 3 ... in Perth on FTA & STV

the 2 local targeted markets would get double the ratings minimum they'd normally get then if they had to watch the game from Melb not involving the local sides
but they're all lumped together when reported on the FTA ratings to pump up the total
its a trick
nothing surer

fridays figure of 183K in Adelaide added to the game from Melbs metro figures is this " trick ".. par excellence

I think the annoying thing for me is that it pushed the fumbleball game up to 5th spot for the most watched FTA show metro nationally. While this may appear correct on the face of it, in reality each fumble game if measured and entered independently would be much farther down the list and may not even make the list. Friday night as I posted being a classic example.
This gives the impression to the less discerning that one particular fumbleball game was the fifth most watched programme on FTA Australia wide that night. Sneaky and we only have ourselves to blame for not having gone nationally years ago.

 

[baselinepanther]

I think the annoying thing for me is that it pushed the fumbleball game up to 5th spot for the most watched FTA show metro nationally. While this may appear correct on the face of it, in reality each fumble game if measured and entered independently would be much farther down the list and may not even make the list. Friday night as I posted being a classic example.
This gives the impression to the less discerning that one particular fumbleball game was the fifth most watched programme on FTA Australia wide that night. Sneaky and we only have ourselves to blame for not having gone nationally years ago.

what happened in the derps n misses usually doesn't happen on Fridays , its usually saturdays & sundays
but still..
60K people from SA watched the fumbleball in Melb last night , it had 2 vic sides playing .
183K watched the game on friday night , that figure added to the melb total & presented as the national figure for that sport for the night

take 123K off that figure of 540K & that is probably a truer total
they drop from 5th to 9th
still 100K more then the NRL's metro total , but not 220K like it appears

 

[Billythekid]

I feel like I’ve been reading that the AFL has been overpriced for 2 decades, every TV deal people on here keep saying things will be different this time. Do you not think that hating AFL and being an NRL fan might slightly cloud your judgement here?

 

[The_Wookie]