2022 Origin III - Wed 13 Jul - QLD 22-12 NSW @ Suncorp

[GongPanther]

Haha well if ch9 say it i better love him

On 9, Fox, everywhere in print. This is how you setup someone to fail.

 

[DOGS AND EELS!!!]

But that's not what happened tonight. The blues pack wasn't dominated and the blues had the momentum for the majority of the match.

Anyone. This isn't the NRL where coaches make that much of a difference, NSW have a big advantage we just need someone who doesn't f**k up dramatically.


The NSW pack dominated the game for longer than the QLD one did. There were huge portions of the game where we were absolutely rolling QLD making huge metres with them pinned in their own half out on their feet. We simply couldn't capitalise on that momentum. Scoring only 2 tries despite piling on constant pressure in the first half wasn't enough.

What game were you watching? We never had them pinned against their own goal line with the ball in hand for most of the 1st half unlike who did in the 2nd half and only had 1 try to show for it.

 

[Billythekid]

true, the team would lose a series by 2 points and everyone would want wholesale changes. I feel that the halfback role was a poison chalice. Either the players in the side had no confidence in Pearce, or they just wanted to do it themselves. The problem was outside of Pearce there was no obvious choice. That said, Maloney should have retired with 20 origin caps to his name.

Totally agree on Maloney, that's a man who just knows how to make teams win. Overall I just don't like the revisionism that paints the likes of Hayne, Gallen and Farah as being useless origin players. They were up against a QLD side that was better than any origin team we'll probably ever see again on paper (seriously how many future immortals played during that period?) and frankly came so close to winning so many times.

That's why so many of us were so frustrated. On paper it looked like NSW deserved to get absolutely smashed, then we would lose game 3 to a field goal and have to listen to commentators ramble on about the QLD spirit when it was NSW punching well above their weight. I don't think those NSW teams were perfect but I do think they would have smashed this QLD side.

 

[dogslife]

Ultimately, when it comes down to it, game on the line... Nathan Cleary kicks it directly to Ben f**king Hunt of all people, who races 70m to score.

It's Ivan Cleary's fault. For having that big iron chinned turd of a son in the first place.

Discuss.

 

[Billythekid]

What game were you watching? We never had them pinned against their own goal line with the ball in hand for most of the 1st half unlike who did in the 2nd half and only had 1 try to show for it.

Most of the first half NSW were easily making it into QLD territory each set and QLD were struggling to make it outside of their 30. We may not have been on their line the whole half but we were absolutely rolling them. They were on their feet and the game looked like it was about to spiral like game 2.

 

[DOGS AND EELS!!!]

You're right- it was those errors that killed momentum for NSW when (in their own half) the tiring Qld middle was there for the taking. But how is that Freddy's fault?

To date he's made some questionable selections but been proven right more often than not.

He lost in 2020 lining up against one of the wisest coaches in the game who has literally been running RL teams since Freddy was in junior highschool.

This series NSW (despite being sub-par) could well have won Game 1 if it wasn't for some questionable decisions (out of their hands) and again tonight had NSW players not turned the ball over and killed momentum.

What is the "edge" you think another coach is going to bring that Freddy doesn't have, of possible candidates who don't currently have an NRL gig?

I don’t know man, maybe, just possibly it was his fault that those players were in the team - maybe but i can’t be sure.

the edge another coach gives is pretty easy, STOP MAKING STUPID SELECTIONS.

Can you tell me how Fox wasn’t in the team this year? ANY other coach would have had him there.

 

[Pantherjim.]

Not death, just stomped to f**k. Arrogant trackhead he is

Not really, no.

 

[DOGS AND EELS!!!]

Most of the first half NSW were easily making it into QLD territory each set and QLD were struggling to make it outside of their 30. We may not have been on their line the whole half but we were absolutely rolling them. They were on their feet and the game looked like it was about to spiral like game 2.

Yeah that’s totally different from what QLD had in the second. We may have had them out on their feet but unless we were in range we didn’t have the strike power in the team to score long range tries. When we were in range we scored twice which was a pretty good effort.

 

[Wb1234]

If you picked Cleary up and dropped him into all the utter garbage NSW sides Pearce was a member of he’d have got his arse kicked too.

Cleary lost this series with 2 absolutely terrible games in game 1 and 3

So your defending Mitchell Pearce as a half back

yet the roosters punted him for Cronk so they could (and did) win comps

Pearce was a dud he cost nsw so many close games by choking

 

[mxlegend99]

Could NSW get any more leg ups??

You are The most brain dead biased f**kwit ever .

Ref carried Queensland all f**king series. Yet kn the rare occassion he calls them out for being blatant grubby cheating f**kwits like they are you are spitting shit like you shouldnt be penalized for it

Queenslanders just cant comprehend being published for cheating.

 

[Reflector]

Totally agree on Maloney, that's a man who just knows how to make teams win. Overall I just don't like the revisionism that paints the likes of Hayne, Gallen and Farah as being useless origin players. They were up against a QLD side that was better than any origin team we'll probably ever see again on paper (seriously how many future immortals played during that period?) and frankly came so close to winning so many times.

That's why so many of us were so frustrated. On paper it looked like NSW deserved to get absolutely smashed, then we would lose game 3 to a field goal and have to listen to commentators ramble on about the QLD spirit when it was NSW punching well above their weight. I don't think those NSW teams were perfect but I do think they would have smashed this QLD side.

Not sure I agree with the bolded parts.

Hayne, Gallen and Farah all had their strengths but they were selfish players. Hayne won it for NSW in 2014 but lost it for them in 2017 when he chose to go for personal glory instead of a simple pass to an unmarked Morris to score, go into H/T up by more than 2 converted tries (after dominating the first 40 minutes) and psychologically crush Qld.

Those NSW teams had grit but less points in them than this current squad. They'd never put the kind of scores on Qld we've seen the last 2 series.

Origin kayfabe, of course, means that when Qld win with a debut squad or come out on top in a tight one like tonight it's all pashun spirit, players growing 10ft tall when they wear the maroon jersey etc etc like it's been since day 1. But when NSW win with a debut squad it's just "The Baby Blues staged an upset", when NSW win in a scrap it's not recalled with the same glowing praise for state passion.

Take tonight- there is a narrative evidently popular with some here about "NSW shitting the bed when it matters" or "lacking heart" when it really came down to a bunch of momentum-killing errors + an attempt at a clutch play from Cleary that backfired. On another night he gets it behind the Qld defenders, a NSW player gathers and scores and it's all Cleary is a genius, NSW have the mental edge on Qld yada yada yada

 

[Wb1234]

You are The most brain dead biased f**kwit ever .

Ref carried Queensland all f**king series. Yet kn the rare occassion he calls them out for being blatant grubby cheating f**kwits like they are you are spitting shit like you shouldnt be penalized for it

Queenslanders just cant comprehend being published for cheating.

Cmon you don’t believe that really.

Freddy’s was the one manipulating the refs when his team was poor

slater didn’t say a thing just said they had to play better when they got smashed

 

[Frank_Grimes]

Luai dancing and gloating over an unconscious Cobbo was the death knell

 

[dogslife]

You are The most brain dead biased f**kwit ever .

Ref carried Queensland all f**king series. Yet kn the rare occassion he calls them out for being blatant grubby cheating f**kwits like they are you are spitting shit like you shouldnt be penalized for it

Queenslanders just cant comprehend being published for cheating.

God damn they should put this post on t-shirts. I'd buy one!

 

[SLRBRONCOS]

Qld won because their intensity increased the moment Laui stood over an injured Cobbo

I am absolutely cooked, was sitting in 602 row 67 and could tell he was out cold long before Luai stood over him. Luai is a germ.

 

[Pantherjim.]

I said this after game 1... luai I think is in a sensational club team so his form is overstated. For me origin is a bit above his talent level but at least he tries and looks interested.

Cleary on the other hand is apparently this once in a generation talent who is meant to be the best half and some say best player in the game but continuously shits the bed in tight games. Mitchell Pearce copped flack for many years but he was never labelled a generational talent and no one thought he was anything other than the 3rd, 4th or even 5th best half on the field in any given origin game he played.

Nathan Cleary is Mitchell Pearce.

Acrually Pearce never played this bad, and certainly never had the squad advantage of this imposter

Cleary with a play that sums up him in SOO lol

Lol!

Yet who’ve you guys got as your halves again from the day to day business of the NRL competition?

Oh, Ok. Then.

Glad Nathan’s still playing with us then…

 

[Reflector]

So your defending Mitchell Pearce as a half back

yet the roosters punted him for Cronk so they could (and did) win comps

Pearce was a dud he cost nsw so many close games by choking

Pearce was a good runner of the football and (unlike a lot of halves/ fullbacks) was a solid defender. I often wondered it he'd have been more effective playing the hooking role through his career?

His biggest deficit at Origin level was how predictable his 5th tackle game was. Players like JT or Cronk or Lockyer- even Cleary now- are able to make a snap decision based on what is happening in that very moment. Pearce seemed to have already decided by the 2nd or 3rd tackle what kind of kick he'd attempt on the 5th and then stick with it, even if another option was much better come the 5th tackle. The most infamous example being that gif of him murdering a 3 man overlap in the 2013 decider to fail at the most feeble grubber attempt, like he'd decided 2 tackles earlier "A grubber is 100% the kick to finish this set on"

 

[Pantherjim.]

Not sure why everyone’s blaming us?

Out of 7 players in NSW Origin, 0 injuries for Penrith.

6 points clear on the NRL ladder from everyone else.

Resting our origin guys this Sunday.

Roll on with the rest of the competition merkins!

 

[Reflector]

I don’t know man, maybe, just possibly it was his fault that those players were in the team - maybe but i can’t be sure.

the edge another coach gives is pretty easy, STOP MAKING STUPID SELECTIONS.

Can you tell me how Fox wasn’t in the team this year? ANY other coach would have had him there.

Before tonight Tupou hadn't done much wrong. Pick and stick.

Why would you replace players who played their part in putting a big score on the opposition the previous game?

 

[SLRBRONCOS]

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@SLRBRONCOS was spotted there. They’re now all gay whether they like it or not.

f**king lol