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2023-2028 next tv deal discussion

Colk

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so the existing deal (2 years) gets rolled up into a 9 year deal @ 4.5b total = 500m per year?

Seems like that might be the case. They’ve achieved a much better deal than us either way.

The only negative for them is the length.
 

Colk

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Nine years is a crazy amount of time to be locked away

terrible result

I wouldn’t call terrible at all (if it is 4.5m over 9 years) Nine years is too long though.

Shame we couldn’t build up an online presence or create a NRL channel in response.
 

Wb1234

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Wow gills legacy is locking them up for almost a decade to get an increase of 5 percent on the existing deal

crazy
 

The_Wookie

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What excuses ?

the afl just redid their deal ?

wait till the nrl redid theirsNRL

well get 500 million easy

The AFL is still running an extensiuon for the next two years at 473m pa, and then seven years at 550m (according to News).

NRL deal still has years to run at "over 400m pa
 

Colk

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What excuses ?

the afl just redid their deal ?

wait till the nrl redid theirs

well get 500 million easy

What is our deal now? $430m? I don’t think we are going to get an extra $75-100m for one extra game.
 

Starkers

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I don't know, it's either:
- 7 years @ 4.5b = 642m per year (extension beginning 2025)
Or it's:
- 9 years rolled up @ 4.5b = 500m per year

why you would deal 2 years in advance on different terms to the next 2 years seems odd to me though. the devil is definitely in the detail!
 

Colk

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The AFL is still running an extensiuon for the next two years at 473m pa, and then seven years at 550m (according to News).

NRL deal still has years to run at "over 400m pa

Exactly.

I get people want to look on the bright side of things but best case scenario is their deal is nigh on $100 million dollars more per annum.

How people are saying that they have done a bad job. If their deal is bad our deal is disastrous
 

Iamback

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I don't know, it's either:
- 7 years @ 4.5b = 642m per year (extension beginning 2025)
Or it's:
- 9 years rolled up @ 4.5b = 500m per year

why you would deal 2 years in advance on different terms to the next 2 years seems odd to me though. the devil is definitely in the detail!

That is why I am holding fire, Plenty of ways to manipulate numbers. $4.5b looks huge but over 9 years isn't anything too major, especially with that including contra
 

Iamback

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Exactly.

I get people want to look on the bright side of things but best case scenario is their deal is nigh on $100 million dollars more per annum.

How people are saying that they have done a bad job. If their deal is bad our deal is disastrous

Wait to see AFL are masters of spin
 

Colk

First Grade
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That is why I am holding fire, Plenty of ways to manipulate numbers. $4.5b looks huge but over 9 years isn't anything too major, especially with that including contra

If it’s including contra then yeah I agree
 

Iamback

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Maybe. I think we have done a bad deal and what worries me is that they had multiple bidders.

We never really had that competitive tension

Did they? They said there was did anyone confirm it?

The deal is fine, perfect length. Plenty to grow after experiement with the timeslot for Womens game etc
 

The Penguin #6.

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Maybe. I think we have done a bad deal and what worries me is that they had multiple bidders.

We never really had that competitive tension
What this has definitely shown though is that broadcasters want a major sport to anchor their programming to. Ironically we may have been disadvantaged by the fact that we did our deal first and several of the broadcasters were holding back to have a crack at the fumbleball.
Now that they`ve lost that there`s only one major sport left now available in the next few years. Hopefully might mean a few more bidders at the table next time our rights come around.
 

colly

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The biggest ever gap was $83mill and that was when the game was owned by news ltd. if this is bigger the arlc have some very serious questions to answer.

The gap in 23&24 is already going to be massive at $70mill each year, if it goes higher in 2025 it will be a cock up on a monumental level by vlandys. First time nrl has negotiated a deal without using a specialist consultancy firm to lead the negotiations. Looks telling.

Here is a credible account of the AFL 2023-2024 two year deal, taken from Big footy.. see below
Notice the large Contra amount $66 million, which makes sense as the AFL wanted it to look good so as to swipe and snipe at the NRL... Also the Telstra $100 million is inflating 'the record ' amount.
Finally notice what Seven pay and Foxtel's amount. Not to different from $146 amount, and Foxes $236 amount,
which here was speculated about, NOT the $190m ( Seven) said by Reddy. The NRL are very close and could be on top. Remember it's only broadcasters cash where interested in.


$66m advertising contra - that $33m was the annual amount of $200m, over 6 years by - 7 $60m and Foxtel $140m.
$100m cash Telstra monies - @The_Wookie has said the $50m/year Telstra paid in 2017-22 deal didn't change for 2023-24
$780m cash paid by 7 and Foxtel. My best guess is 7 is 156+162= 318 and Foxtel is 227+235 = 462.
$946m Total Including $66m contra and Teslra $100 giveaway bonanza.

* $780 m Broadcaster over two years OR......... $390m yearly up against our $405m ($15m Nine contra that we ONLY know about) It ain't over yet!



$946 m total over two years. Not anything to write home about when you ONLY compare broadcasters. In fact in the new deal depending of the amount of 'contra' aka fake mone$ the the AFL get. The NRL might still come out on top, if we organize a couple of international comps and sell to broadcasters.

This is the seventh time Niall from The Age has announced record amount so be on your toes for contra and length of time (contract) which the AFL seems to do.
 

Wb1234

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The AFL is still running an extensiuon for the next two years at 473m pa, and then seven years at 550m (according to News).

NRL deal still has years to run at "over 400m pa
So it’s not 640 million as you quoted ?
Lmao

I’m shocked you even posted it
 

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