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2023-2028 next tv deal discussion

Colk

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NZ used to get a lot of 12pm (2pm NZ time) games on Sunday. Even if it’s changed to 1pm KO, (3pm NZ) you could have a 1pm, 2:10pm & 3:50pm kick off without affecting too much

are 1pm KO’s too early on Sundays?

I don’t see why not if they are playing over there
 

Perth Red

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I know people on here like to complain but the Comp has not only budgeted to fund the extra NRLW teams
On top of the existing funding
Give 17 clubs $15m a season

And still put $25m a side, Good times for RL
How’s it affording that on only $12mill extra cash a year from tv? Especially with dolphins to fund. It’s managed it last two years by slashing $25mill plus out of grassroots. What’s it do now grassroots is back to normal?
 

Wb1234

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I know people on here like to complain but the Comp has not only budgeted to fund the extra NRLW teams
On top of the existing funding
Give 17 clubs $15m a season

And still put $25m a side, Good times for RL
The arlc have something like 170 million cash reserves

they used approx 25 million to buy the gambero hotel

the profit will be even higher without the 30 million they spent on covid and origins and finals crowds through the roof
 
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It’s not just Sydney clubs holding the game back

and with their leagues clubs and now the new grounds yes they do have the fan and other support
Broncos have held the game back in Brisbane by not wanting a genuine competitor. Titans tried to hold back the game in Brisbane by opposing expansion.

Parramatta Stadium is available for Eels, Tigers and Bulldogs, but only one of them has made it their home. Tigers are reverting back to Leichhardt and Campbelltown. Bulldogs continue to be all over the place.

Sharks, Dragons and Sea Eagles haven't moved into the SFS. Rabbitohs want to move into the SFS but are being blocked by the Roosters and NSW Gov.

Penrith Football Stadium is staying as it is.

There were empty seats at Parramatta Stadium last night.
 

Colk

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This is why we need to get a bigger deal and try to work towards a national competition. The bigger the gap the more they can spend on League heartland whilst we can’t fight back

 
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Perth Red

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This is why we need to get a bigger deal and try to work towards a national competition. The bigger the gap the more they can spend on League heartland whilst we can fight back

as I said this deal has lost us the war. There is no way we are holding ground let alone developing new markets with a $400mill a year revenue gap. We’ve had incompetent leaders before but this guy takes the biscuit. He spruces a surplus whilst spending $25mill less on grassroots.
 

Colk

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as I said this deal has lost us the war. There is no way we are holding ground let alone developing new markets with a $400mill a year revenue gap. We’ve had incompetent leaders before but this guy takes the biscuit. He spruces a surplus whilst spending $25mill less on grassroots.

As the old adage goes it’s better to die on one’s feet, than live on one’s knees.

We are doing the latter by not even trying
 
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I reckon V'landys rushed into signing a reduced deal with News Ltd and Ch9 in 2020 to save the Sydney clubs from folding. A few of them would have gone belly up under a prolonged shut down. Now we're all suffering just so Sydney can retain more teams than it can support.

In 2021 V'landys panicked and rushed into resigning with News Ltd because Ch9 were openly hostile towards our game. In doing so he's cost us $170m per annum on the current broadcast deal. We really need to get away from Ch9 and News Ltd. They've used and abused us for decades. Let's give Ch10/Paramount+ a go.
 

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This is why we need to get a bigger deal and try to work towards a national competition. The bigger the gap the more they can spend on League heartland whilst we can’t fight back

How many swans players do you think the average Sydney sider can name ?

can anyone in Sydney name a current giants player

the problem for afl in Sydney is it’s not a game for multicural players or fans

it could spend a trillion dollars and still not be relevant

afl is the sport for the places with little migration other than from England
 

Colk

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How many swans players do you think the average Sydney sider can name ?

can anyone in Sydney name a current giants player

the problem for afl in Sydney is it’s not a game for multicural players or fans

it could spend a trillion dollars and still not be relevant

afl is the sport for the places with little migration other than from England

I wouldn’t say the Swans don’t have any support. Their crowd averages are bigger than all of the League sides in Sydney. So to suggest they haven’t made any traction is like burying your head in the sand.

You have made an interesting point about how Anglo the game is and how they haven’t had much success in western Sydney as a result. It depends a lot on whether those suburbs become more Anglo and gentrified because of increasing house prices.

Furthermore, it is not about where the current game sits, it’s more about what it will be in 20, 30 and 40 years time. They have a long term strategy and are willing to go through with it and we don’t. Eventually the amount of revenue difference and thus the more amount of money they can spend will start to have an effect.
 

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How many swans players do you think the average Sydney sider can name ?

can anyone in Sydney name a current giants player

the problem for afl in Sydney is it’s not a game for multicural players or fans

it could spend a trillion dollars and still not be relevant

afl is the sport for the places with little migration other than from England

Gotta love articles like this. Zero idea of how reality is
 

Wb1234

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I wouldn’t say the Swans don’t have any support. Their crowd averages are bigger than all of the League sides in Sydney. So to suggest they haven’t made any traction is like burying your head in the sand.

You have made an interesting point about how Anglo the game is and how they haven’t had much success in western Sydney as a result. It depends a lot on whether those suburbs become more Anglo and gentrified because of increasing house prices.

Furthermore, it is not about where the current game sits, it’s more about what it will be in 20, 30 and 40 years time. They have a long term strategy and are willing to go through with it and we don’t. Eventually the amount of revenue difference and thus the more amount of money they can spend will start to have an effect.

Sydney is spot the white person

I had a gf from melb who had never seen much of Sydney across the Anzac bridge

she was shocked there were no white people lmao

if they want to spend hundreds of millions of dollars trying to get pi kids playing afl good luck it’s a lost cause

all they’ve done in Sydney is get into the private schools and get all the guys who could’ve been breakaways or second rows in union (ie tall and good at line outs) playing afl
 

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Roy moved to melb ages ago

his heart is I. The right place even if his articles aren’t always

There we go. Looks at data instant AFL taking over, reality is inner west and Nth Shore are the areas. Areas that have lost RL teams over 40 years
 

Colk

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Sydney is spot the white person

I had a gf from melb who had never seen much of Sydney across the Anzac bridge

she was shocked there were no white people lmao

if they want to spend hundreds of millions of dollars trying to get pi kids playing afl good luck it’s a lost cause

all they’ve done in Sydney is get into the private schools and get all the guys who could’ve been breakaways or second rows in union (ie tall and good at line outs) playing afl

There are a fair few things wrong with this.

1. There are no white people outside of Sydney in NSW? There are other places in NSW outside of Sydney and a lot of them are Anglo dominated

2. It’s based on the premise that demographics won’t change. Have a look at cities like Brisbane and Perth over the last 25 years and they have massively changed. If housing prices and rents continue to soar, will Sydney become just a city for the upper class?

3. Again this is a long term thing for them - they are trying to win over generations in 20 and 30 years time. Also, if some athlete can earn a great deal more playing fumbleball then that makes their game more attractive than ours. We are both products. Anyway, even if what you say is true and their support is only on the north side of the bridge, guess what, that’s where the money is! Win over the top end of town and you’re more than halfway there.
 
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