2023-2028 next tv deal discussion

[Wb1234]

That would be a brilliant result for them considering that is even more per annum than they announced.

Lmao it’s seven years

 

[Steel Saints]

Nobody knows not even wookie

that’s the whole point of me calling this deal bs

in the past Telstra payments was for streaming afl games on their app so it was fair to include it in their deals

but now it’s not

news ltd literally posted an article saying the value of the deal from foxtel and seven was 3.5
Billion over 5 years

that in itself is a great outcome for afl

I read somewhere that the deal with Fox and Seven is $3.85 billion over 7 years. The rest, I would assume is from Telstra.

 

[Iamback]

I read somewhere that the deal with Fox and Seven is $3.85 billion over 7 years. The rest, I would assume is from Telstra.

$550m seems to be the price, I have seen that quoted a few times

 

[Colk]

Lmao it’s seven years

I know that is what you meant I was just being a smart a***

 

[The_Wookie]

Nobody knows not even wookie

that’s the whole point of me calling this deal bs

in the past Telstra payments was for streaming afl games on their app so it was fair to include it in their deals

but now it’s not

news ltd literally posted an article saying the value of the deal from foxtel and seven was 3.5
Billion over 5 years

that in itself is a great outcome for afl

And every article since the announcement was actually made says its more. Including by league journos.

 

[Steel Saints]

$550m seems to be the price, I have seen that quoted a few times

IIRC, it was the figure of $550 million that was bandied about around here (LU) a day or two before the announcement.

 

[Iamback]

And every article since the announcement was actually made says its more. Including by league journos.

When the upgrades to Marvel are done and the cost is announced, The answer will be known. People are just inpatient

 

[The_Wookie]

Again though the $593m includes contra for Marvel renovations

You don't even know the deal so how can you say how much was lost? Nor what is included in it

The $643m includes Telstra money. Not $593m

 

[Iamback]

IIRC, it was the figure of $550 million that was bandied about around here (LU) a day or two before the announcement.

Rubbery figures, but AFL has 100 million reasons to gloat over TV deal

On face value, the AFL’s eye-watering broadcast deal could have Peter V’landys reaching for something stronger than coffee, but there remains strained optimism at Rugby League Central.

www.brisbanetimes.com.au

Roy Masters has it at that but also $450m which if the cash is $400m could be correct, No one is disputing a difference. Just how much the difference is, Which doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. However if we are discussing if the NRL deal as a dud or not then probably should have correct figures to compare

 

[The_Wookie]

When the upgrades to Marvel are done and the cost is announced, The answer will be known. People are just inpatient

The AFL CEO said at the announcement that cash was north of 4 billion over the deal and the total deal was 643m a year including Telstras digital rights and total contra which league reporters and supporters are all believing will be 5 or 6 times a year what it currently is (presently 16m pa).

People just want to pick and choose the media reports they want to believe.

 

[Iamback]

The $643m includes Telstra money. Not $593m

$50m was the deal last time for the website etc. I think that was taken off for the $593m figure but not the contra part

 

[The_Wookie]

Rubbery figures, but AFL has 100 million reasons to gloat over TV deal

On face value, the AFL’s eye-watering broadcast deal could have Peter V’landys reaching for something stronger than coffee, but there remains strained optimism at Rugby League Central.

www.brisbanetimes.com.au

Roy Masters has it at that but also $450m which if the cash is $400m could be correct, No one is disputing a difference. Just how much the difference is, Which doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. However if we are discussing if the NRL deal as a dud or not then probably should have correct figures to compare

And even then Roy Masters isnt citing a definitive figure, the NRL simply gave a "more than 400m" and left it at that.

Bottom line is no one knows what the NRL total is, whereas the AFL gave a definitive in its announcement.

 

[Iamback]

The AFL CEO said at the announcement that cash was north of 4 billion over the deal and the total deal was 643m a year including Telstras digital rights and total contra which league reporters and supporters are all believing will be 5 or 6 times a year what it currently is (presently 16m pa).

People just want to pick and choose the media reports they want to believe.

6 x $16m is $96m is that the upgrades too?

 

[Iamback]

And even then Roy Masters isnt citing a definitive figure, the NRL simply gave a "more than 400m" and left it at that.

Bottom line is no one knows what the NRL total is, whereas the AFL gave a definitive in its announcement.

The article yesterday said NRL announces cash amounts only also there is a few things not announced on the NRL one too. So I get not having a actual amount again though it doesn't bother me it, Just frustrating some on here with to hang the ARLC without actual figures

 

[The_Wookie]

6 x $16m is $96m is that the upgrades too?

The 16m is the current total contra deal annually - not just Telstra.

Note that: Telstra had the same technology and digital rights deal built into the 2023-2024 deal extension for which we are told cost the same as the 2018 original deal at 50m pa.

 

[The_Wookie]

The article yesterday said NRL announces cash amounts only also there is a few things not announced on the NRL one too. So I get not having a actual amount again though it doesn't bother me it, Just frustrating some on here with to hang the ARLC without actual figures

They've never just announced cash amounts before.

Thats because whatever the figure is, its nowhere near the AFLs deal for 2023-2024, let alone the parts of the deal for 2025-2027 (ending 2031).

The fact is the language from PVL says both he got all the money there was, but also that he was protecting the broadcasters from themselves by not alllowing them to pay too much - which he says is good for the industry as a whole.

 

[Colk]

They've never just announced cash amounts before.

Thats because whatever the figure is, its nowhere near the AFLs deal for 2023-2024, let alone the parts of the deal for 2025-2027 (ending 2031).

The fact is the language from PVL says both he got all the money there was, but also that he was protecting the broadcasters from themselves by not alllowing them to pay too much - which he says is good for the industry as a whole.

Which is a complete contradiction in terms of course.

Look there might be some aspect of both of the deals which are under dispute; however, based on levels of plausibility the deal that AFL got would be significantly more than League.

 

[Wb1234]

And every article since the announcement was actually made says its more. Including by league journos.

Contra at marvel doesn’t count

it’s got nothing to do with the tv deal and isn’t actually cash being received

the article quoted 3.5 billion from seven and fox (excluding Telstra)

that’s the only time it’s been broken down like that

so the figure nrl has to beat next time around is 500 million pa from our tv guys including contra

 

[Iamback]

The 16m is the current total contra deal annually - not just Telstra.

Note that: Telstra had the same technology and digital rights deal built into the 2023-2024 deal extension for which we are told cost the same as the 2018 original deal at 50m pa.

In that case then leaves $550m - Telstra out of it leaves $500m from Fox and ch7, So $100m difference like Roy Masters stated

 

[The_Wookie]

Contra at marvel doesn’t count

it’s got nothing to do with the tv deal and isn’t actually cash being received

the article quoted 3.5 billion from seven and fox (excluding Telstra)

that’s the only time it’s been broken down like that

so the figure nrl has to beat next time around is 500 million pa from our tv guys including contra

it doesnt count for you. Unfortunately in the real world, it actrually does where its parts of the actual rights deal. Also the additional AFL radio rights that arent included in this, but are in the NRL deal..

And the article itself was written pre announcement.