2023-2028 next tv deal discussion

[Perth Red]

Without the NRL, there subscriptions would die in NSW and QLD.

True but having forked out around $400mill a year for afl for seven years how much have they left in the kitty? how would their business model afford say $750-800million a year expense for two sports? That’d need a big increase in fees, or subscribers.

 

[Canard]

True but having forked out around $400mill a year for afl for seven years how much have they left in the kitty? how would their business model afford say $750-800million a year expense for two sports? That’d need a big increase in fees, or subscribers.

I'd hazard a guess that losing half your subscription base isn't going to help, and wouldn't be in there plans.

You just reminded me, I need to cancel my Kayo until next season starts

 

[Iamback]

Yes it would nine are useless

sevens coverage of the World Cup was light years ahead of nine

nines coverage is literally embarrassing

Yet you'd be happy for 9 owned Stan to have the rights?

Either way poor standard FTA goes with the territory

 

[Iamback]

Stan just offered the fumblers 500 million pa which is around 100 million more a year than we get now for the Australian tv rights

both of those sports aren that cheap given their ratings

on a per viewers basis way more exp than nrl

How much contra is the key, If it was $500m cash add the $50m Telstra cash and it is more then they took. So with all these reported figures need to take it with a grain of salt

 

[Iamback]

I think Paramount is the real option.

The fumbles wouldn’t have got what they got without Paramount. In order to get what they got they have to get Paramount to bid and bid hard.

Not sure streaming is a smart options, Great to put the fear in Fox

 

[Colk]

Not sure streaming is a smart options, Great to put the fear in Fox

How are you going to do that without competitive tension?

 

[Perth Red]

How much contra is the key, If it was $500m cash add the $50m Telstra cash and it is more then they took. So with all these reported figures need to take it with a grain of salt

They got over $550mill cash inc telstra,
it would likely have been $450-470 cash $30-50 contra or there abouts from nine in their offer.
last deal they got $16mill contra to $400 cash.

 

[Perth Red]

I'd hazard a guess that losing half your subscription base isn't going to help, and wouldn't be in there plans.

You just reminded me, I need to cancel my Kayo until next season starts

Not watching RLWC? Mine will be cancelled once f1 and RLWC is finished up.

 

[Canard]

Not watching RLWC? Mine will be cancelled once f1 and RLWC is finished up.

I just assumed the WC would be on FTA?

Anyway I cancelled and have another until mid Nov to keep watching

 

[Wb1234]

Channel 9 is Stan

Channel 9 is Stan

Yet you'd be happy for 9 owned Stan to have the rights?

Either way poor standard FTA goes with the territory

i would yep

because it means news ltd has finally lost control over rugby league

if they want to keep it let them pay through nose for it since it rates it’s tits off

 

[Wb1234]

How much contra is the key, If it was $500m cash add the $50m Telstra cash and it is more then they took. So with all these reported figures need to take it with a grain of salt

Ignoring the afl deal 500 million including contra for the Australian tv rights plus nz would mean 500 million cash

this would be approx 70 million or more than we currently get and literally you wonder what they will do with the money

how high can the cap go ? Can we see a 2 million dollar player

I suspect that the arlc profits will be running at 50 to 100 million a year before any increase in the tv deal

 

[Wb1234]

Paramount Global is valued at about $18 billion and has about $90 billion in assets. Their revenue is about $45 billion a year. 7 West and 9 Entertainment have a revenue of only a couple of billion combined. Paramount isn't strapped for cash but they'renot going to just throw money away either.


Without NRL the Foxtel/Kayo business model in Australia collapses. The only way it would survive is by being propped from overseas but then it just becomes a giant money pit.


Who knew that sports that rate only 40k on Foxtel would do worst on streaming?



The biggest impediment has been the competitiveness of the tournaments and lack of consistency. But to me Kangaroos games are potentially as if not more valuable than finals matches.

Tonga vs Samoa or Tonga vs nz is as good as or better than origin

the Arlc lucked into that now it’s time to capitalise it

the rivalry is amazing

 

[Canard]

Ignoring the afl deal 500 million including contra for the Australian tv rights plus nz would mean 500 million cash

this would be approx 70 million or more than we currently get and literally you wonder what they will do with the money

how high can the cap go ? Can we see a 2 million dollar player

I suspect that the arlc profits will be running at 50 to 100 million a year before any increase in the tv deal

100m profit annually?

That would make the calls for govt investment in PNG and stadiums seem like greed in the extreme.

There is no way they make that much profit annually, not even remotely.

 

[Canard]

Tonga vs Samoa or Tonga vs nz is as good as or better than origin

the Arlc lucked into that now it’s time to capitalise it

the rivalry is amazing

It's not going to generate the same TV audience or demand unfortunately.

 

[Colk]

It's not going to generate the same TV audience or demand unfortunately.

Exactly. That doesn’t mean we should not do it though.

 

[Wb1234]

It's not going to generate the same TV audience or demand unfortunately.

Lmao yeh maybe if had been built up over 30 years it might

but thanks anyway

 

[Wb1234]

100m profit annually?

That would make the calls for govt investment in PNG and stadiums seem like greed in the extreme.

There is no way they make that much profit annually, not even remotely.

Yeh pick the higher figure lmao

 

[Canard]

Who said 100 million

are you dyslexic

You did??

 

[Wb1234]

You did??

Why did you ignore where I said 50 to 100 mill

 

[Canard]

Lmao yeh maybe if had been built up over 30 years it might

but thanks anyway

Tonga and Samoa don't have the population or TV money to make this as lucrative as Origin.

Australian TV viewers, for obvious reasons, aren't going to be as invested in the contest.