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2023-2028 next tv deal discussion

Canard

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If we gave just one game per round to the ABC to air on Saturday night then it wouldn't devalue the rest of the product by much, if at all. If we go to 18 teams then we can give the 9th game to the ABC for production cost and still be able to sell the other eight games at market value.
This is cutting our nose off to spite our face type stuff.

For mine, the rights should go to the highest bidder, and likely be a mix of FTA and subscription services.

I don't give a f**k if its 9,10 or Ch 88. I also don't subscribe to the theory that another commercial channel will suddenly be the magic elixir for the game in terms of professionalism and broadcasting.
 

Steel Saints

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This is cutting our nose off to spite our face type stuff.

For mine, the rights should go to the highest bidder, and likely be a mix of FTA and subscription services.

I don't give a f**k if its 9,10 or Ch 88. I also don't subscribe to the theory that another commercial channel will suddenly be the magic elixir for the game in terms of professionalism and broadcasting.

But it would be nice to see the break up of the Nine/ Fox duopoly. Both have held the rights for decades and have taken the game for granted. If someone new comes along and gets the rights, either fully or FTA, then it will benefit the game in future deals. Fox and Nine will realise that they are not guaranteed to have the rights EVERY SINGLE TIME.
 
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This is cutting our nose off to spite our face type stuff.

For mine, the rights should go to the highest bidder, and likely be a mix of FTA and subscription services.

I don't give a f**k if its 9,10 or Ch 88. I also don't subscribe to the theory that another commercial channel will suddenly be the magic elixir for the game in terms of professionalism and broadcasting.
If we stick with Ch9/News Ltd then we get everything we deserve. They don't respect us because we're run by weaklings.

Murdoch told the country he prefers fumbleball and believes it's the premier game. He also said he would use his publications to promote fumbleball in Queensland and NSW. He then gave us a lousy 6pm Fri game which is a crowd killer. If we stick with this mob then we look weak and no one will respect us. We're also helping the company who is funding our main rival.

Ch9 sold the fourth game and simulcast rights for money. They demanded a reduction and V'landys gave it to them, then used the money to buy the rights to our oldest competitor.

We know where we stand with this lot.

I'll give rugby union credit for having the balls to stand up to Rupert and get themselves on Free TV.
 
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Words wouldn't begin to describe your stupidity,
I have pot plants on my front porch with more of an idea then you ... 🤣
You've finally learned how to use capitalisation.

Congratulations, you're making progress!

Pity you f**ked the rest by using a comma instead of a full-stop at the end of your first sentence.

So what do you have to say about all of your dud predictions?

You've been exposed as a fool who knows nothing but likes to talk a lot of shit. Knock off the insults and stop acting as if you know everything. You routinely insult @Perth Red, but he's been right on the money about everything.
 
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They hold the international rights for these competitions in SOME countries, but they definitely DONT have the domestic rights within those countires.

Paramount Plus doesn't have the rights to the Champions League in Australia for example.
Soccer is a fragmented mess. There's so many competitions and they're so cheap to buy that everyone has one. It helps that the overseas competitions are produced by some one else, saving the the Australian rights holder a ton of money.

Does Ch10/Paramount+ produce the A-League content or does the company who runs the competition cover it?
 

Wb1234

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This is cutting our nose off to spite our face type stuff.

For mine, the rights should go to the highest bidder, and likely be a mix of FTA and subscription services.

I don't give a f**k if its 9,10 or Ch 88. I also don't subscribe to the theory that another commercial channel will suddenly be the magic elixir for the game in terms of professionalism and broadcasting.
Yes it would nine are useless

sevens coverage of the World Cup was light years ahead of nine

nines coverage is literally embarrassing
 

Wb1234

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But it would be nice to see the break up of the Nine/ Fox duopoly. Both have held the rights for decades and have taken the game for granted. If someone new comes along and gets the rights, either fully or FTA, then it will benefit the game in future deals. Fox and Nine will realise that they are not guaranteed to have the rights EVERY SINGLE TIME.
Nine pay ok money (vs seven and afl) but their coverage is terrible

foxs coverage is excellent but they pay way unders
 

The Penguin #6.

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From an article about future union broadcast deals in today`s Herald :

Beyond 2025, Foxtel are no certainties to come back to the (union) table to provide competitive tension, having spent heavily on renewing their AFL deal – an attitude they’ll presumably replicate to secure future NRL rights.

Only speculation by one journalist of course, but still interesting that the thought is out there.
 

Wb1234

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From an article about future union broadcast deals in today`s Herald :

Beyond 2025, Foxtel are no certainties to come back to the (union) table to provide competitive tension, having spent heavily on renewing their AFL deal – an attitude they’ll presumably replicate to secure future NRL rights.

Only speculation by one journalist of course, but still interesting that the thought is out there.
The battle for the pay tv rights next time is what will be key

Stan winning or making fox pay overs is the goal
 

Perth Red

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From an article about future union broadcast deals in today`s Herald :

Beyond 2025, Foxtel are no certainties to come back to the (union) table to provide competitive tension, having spent heavily on renewing their AFL deal – an attitude they’ll presumably replicate to secure future NRL rights.

Only speculation by one journalist of course, but still interesting that the thought is out there.
Fox may well have blown its load on afl, it’s hard to see how they could possibly pay similar for nrl as well. Up to the commission now to find some viable alternatives. Don’t hold your breath!
 

Wb1234

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Just seeing how badly both the a league and union are going it’s clear both Stan and paramount stuffed up royally chasing the smaller codes hoping they could grow their ratings

both will be eyeing the average 620k viewers a game they can get bidding for the number one sport on tv
 

Canard

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The battle for the pay tv rights next time is what will be key

Stan winning or making fox pay overs is the goal

Ch9/Stan don't have the cash to pay outright for the TV rights.

Fox may well have blown its load on afl, it’s hard to see how they could possibly pay similar for nrl as well. Up to the commission now to find some viable alternatives. Don’t hold your breath!

Without the NRL, there subscriptions would die in NSW and QLD.

Just seeing how badly both the a league and union are going it’s clear both Stan and paramount stuffed up royally chasing the smaller codes hoping they could grow their ratings

both will be eyeing the average 620k viewers a game they can get bidding for the number one sport on tv

They didn't chase them, they just got them on the cheap.
 

Wb1234

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Ch9/Stan don't have the cash to pay outright for the TV rights.



Without the NRL, there subscriptions would die in NSW and QLD.



They didn't chase them, they just got them on the cheap.
Stan just offered the fumblers 500 million pa which is around 100 million more a year than we get now for the Australian tv rights

both of those sports aren that cheap given their ratings

on a per viewers basis way more exp than nrl
 

Canard

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Stan just offered the fumblers 500 million pa which is around 100 million more a year than we get now for the Australian tv rights

both of those sports aren that cheap given their ratings

on a per viewers basis way more exp than nrl

Why do you keep saying Stan and not Ch9?

Let's hope they do the same for the NRL, but given they already pseudo-partners with Fox it would more likely they form a joint bid.

As for the other codes ratings etc, I'm in 100% agreement. But what option did they have? The NRL or AFL wasn't available.
 

Colk

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Why do you keep saying Stan and not Ch9?

Let's hope they do the same for the NRL, but given they already pseudo-partners with Fox it would more likely they form a joint bid.

As for the other codes ratings etc, I'm in 100% agreement. But what option did they have? The NRL or AFL wasn't available.

I think Paramount is the real option.

The fumbles wouldn’t have got what they got without Paramount. In order to get what they got they have to get Paramount to bid and bid hard.
 

Wb1234

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Why do you keep saying Stan and not Ch9?

Let's hope they do the same for the NRL, but given they already pseudo-partners with Fox it would more likely they form a joint bid.

As for the other codes ratings etc, I'm in 100% agreement. But what option did they have? The NRL or AFL wasn't available.
Because it was stan bidding for the pay tv rights

but ok if it makes you happy nine and stan made a joint bid for 500 million
 

docbrown

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Paramount’s final offer to the AFL is indicative of how much it might be willing to pay for sport it considers tier one.
Paramount Global is valued at about $18 billion and has about $90 billion in assets. Their revenue is about $45 billion a year. 7 West and 9 Entertainment have a revenue of only a couple of billion combined. Paramount isn't strapped for cash but they'renot going to just throw money away either.

Fox may well have blown its load on afl, it’s hard to see how they could possibly pay similar for nrl as well. Up to the commission now to find some viable alternatives. Don’t hold your breath!
Without NRL the Foxtel/Kayo business model in Australia collapses. The only way it would survive is by being propped from overseas but then it just becomes a giant money pit.

Just seeing how badly both the a league and union are going it’s clear both Stan and paramount stuffed up royally chasing the smaller codes hoping they could grow their ratings
Who knew that sports that rate only 40k on Foxtel would do worst on streaming?


Nrl to bring in end of season internationals

that will provide another bump for the tv rights

The biggest impediment has been the competitiveness of the tournaments and lack of consistency. But to me Kangaroos games are potentially as if not more valuable than finals matches.
 

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