2023-2028 next tv deal discussion

[BuffaloRules]

Not peddling anything, I am stating what has been claimed, my mistake though it was claimed to be worth $46million a year not 52.
Unless you have any proof to the different then you are welcome to your opinion on the validity of his claim but its just your opinion. The fact is they did get a massive $250mill a year upgrade, $90mill a year more than the NRL upgrade, so it came from somewhere.

Claimed by GWS with no evidence to deflect from criticism of their crowds and drain on AFL finances …

 

[baselinepanther]

Any evidence to back this assumption up? Unlike us Afl isn’t hiding it’s tv revenue in its annual report so its highly unlikely they are going to exaggerate it that much Or else it will be very obvious next year.

They claimed at the time that the extra game a week was worth $52mill to the value of the new tv deal. I guess its impossible to know what their deal would have been without the 9th game to sell. An extra time slot a week has to be more valuable though than just 12 extra games and byes.

AFl deal went up $250mil a year, how much was due to expansion is hard to say I suppose.
In comparison with no expansion NRL deal went up $160mill a year, though it was coming off a low base due to previous deal being done under conflicted ownership.

again

they

were the midgets lol
omg

 

[tri_colours]

You seem to think I'm unhappy that Fox is paying for expansion to finally happen?

At times its hard to tell.

 

[tri_colours]

the AFL's deal didn't go up 250m a year. It went to 250m a year - big difference.
As I said, the NRL's increase was at least on par with no expansion and less adds.

The AFL have had just as large increases in recent without any expansion.

The Suns and GWS are more of an expense than a money spinner!

And ,any increase would come from all matches needing to be shown live not on delay.

 

[Perth Red]

Claimed by GWS with no evidence to deflect from criticism of their crowds and drain on AFL finances …

And no one from afl land disputed it when it was reported.

 

[Perth Red]

the AFL's deal didn't go up 250m a year. It went to 250m a year - big difference.
As I said, the NRL's increase was at least on par with no expansion and less adds.

The AFL have had just as large increases in recent without any expansion.

The Suns and GWS are more of an expense than a money spinner!

And ,any increase would come from all matches needing to be shown live not on delay.

Nope it went from $250mill a year to $418mill a year after expansion. $168mill increase to be accurate. $58mill a year more than nrl.

Australian media deals
nrl
2007-2012 $83mill a year
2013-2017 $200mill a year
2018-2022 $360mill a year
2023-2027 ?.?.?

afl
2007-2011 $156mill a year
2012-2016 $250mill a year
2017-2022 $418mill a year
2023-2024 $473mill a year

 

[Nerd]

NRL seals $100m broadcast deal with Foxtel for expansion in Brisbane​

In a landmark development for the code, the NRL’s Pay-TV partner has thrown its support behind a second Brisbane team with a mega deal.

Peter Badel and Brent Read

3 min read
October 4, 2021 - 8:06PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom
https://www.couriermail.com.au/spor.../89309f259f7160c9db11f58d972046fe#share-tools

NRL​

The NRL has agreed to terms with Foxtel on a new broadcast deal for a 17-team competition in a move poised to deliver an NRL expansion windfall of up to $100 million.
In a landmark development for the code, the NRL’s Pay-TV partner has thrown its support behind a second Brisbane team with a mega deal that will bankroll rugby league’s most significant expansionary move in 14 years.
As revealed by News Corp last week, the NRL is inching towards expansion with the ARL Commission tipped to announce Queensland’s fourth club by the end of October.
Now ARL Commission boss Peter V’landys will attend a meeting with the 16 NRL clubs on Thursday armed with a beefed-up broadcasting deal from Foxtel worth between $17-20 million annually.
Applying the figure across the sport’s traditional five-year broadcast cycle, a new 17th franchise will be worth between $85-100 million to the NRL in a deal that will guarantee the existing 16 clubs are financial winners from expansion.

Australian Rugby League Commission chairman Peter V'landys (right) and National Rugby League chief executive Andrew Abdo (Photo by Mark Metcalfe/Getty Images)
Contrary to reports, there are no conditions attached to News Corp Australia’s updated broadcast deal and it is incorrect to suggest the NRL has agreed to reduce Brisbane Broncos free-to-air games by 25 per cent.
V’landys promised the clubs he would not expand unless the business case stacked-up — and Foxtel’s fresh broadcasting agreement with the NRL is evidence the code is ready for a second Brisbane team to rival the Broncos in 2023.
Should the clubs provide unanimous support to V’landys, the NRL’s Expansion Assessment Committee will recommend the preferred candidate for a 17th licence to the ARL Commission on Friday.
Three consortia, the Jets, Firehawks and Dolphins, are bidding to become Brisbane’s second team.

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As revealed by News Corp last month, the Redcliffe-backed Dolphins are the strong favourites to win the 17th licence by virtue of their $100 million asset base, 40,000 Leagues Club members and thriving catchment in the Moreton Bay region.

Redcliffe Dolphins bid chief Terry Reader. Picture Lachie Millard
There is also a view the Dolphins, based 40km north of Brisbane’s headquarters at Red Hill, will not cannibalise the Broncos in the south-east Queensland market.
When News Corp extended its broadcast deal with the NRL last year until the end of 2027, there was a provision in the contract to renegotiate terms if a new team was added to the Telstra Premiership.
Foxtel has subsequently come to the party with a bumper deal that is backing the NRL’s vision for expansion in 2023.
V’landys declined to discuss financial terms on Monday night as he prepares to table the financial benefits of a second Brisbane team to the 16 clubs.

ARLC chairman Peter V'landys will approach clubs soon. Picture. Phil Hillyard
“We will outline the full financial details to the clubs on Thursday,” he said.
“I’ve given the clubs my assurances the business case has to stack up and my view hasn’t changed on that.
“I don’t wish to comment any further on expansion until I address the clubs on Thursday.
“There is only an Expansion Assessment Committee meeting pencilled in for Friday if the clubs agree to expansion.
“If we can’t present a case to the clubs that it (expansion) stacks up, then we are in trouble.
“I’ve always given them my word that we would only expand if it wasn’t detrimental to the existing clubs.”
The Nine Network is locked in talks with the ARL Commission over an extension to their existing deal, which runs until the end of next year.




Their decision to delay talks amid purported interest from the Seven and Ten Networks, may come back to bite them given the code’s ratings have skyrocketed in recent weeks.
The finals series has been a ratings bonanza, driving up the value of the broadcast rights on a weekly basis.
Sunday night’s grand final between Souths and Penrith was the NRL’s most-watched decider in five years, attracting a total audience of 3.596 million viewers.
While Foxtel got ahead of the curve and agreed an extension with the Commission, the Nine Network elected for a more cautious approach.
It might end up hitting them in the hip pocket given the recent ratings would suggest the value of the NRL as a television product is on the rise.
At one point, there was talk that the code could split the rights free-to-air rights and sell State of Origin and NRL games as a separate package.
However, it is understood the Nine Network is close to securing a new long-term deal that mirrors the Foxtel deal in terms of length of tenure.
Under terms of Foxtel’s beefed-up deal for a 17-team league, an extra 12 games will be played during the season and crucially there will be more content in Brisbane, providing another genuine option for a south-east Queensland rivalry.
Originally published as NRL seals $100m broadcast deal with Foxtel for expansion in Brisbane

https://www.couriermail.com.au/spor...n/news-story/89309f259f7160c9db11f58d972046fe

 

[tri_colours]

Nope it went from $250mill a year to $418mill a year after expansion. $168mill increase to be accurate. $58mill a year more than nrl.

Australian media deals
nrl
2007-2012 $83mill a year
2013-2017 $200mill a year
2018-2022 $360mill a year
2023-2027 ?.?.?

afl
2007-2011 $156mill a year
2012-2016 $250mill a year
2017-2022 $418mill a year
2023-2024 $473mill a year

i will check my facts but , but im pretty confident these numbers wont be far out.;


NRL were on $500m over 6 years and went to 1B over 5y = about 120m
AFL were on $740m over 5 and went to 1.25B over 5y= Not a lot more than 100m

 

[Perth Red]

i will check my facts but , but im pretty confident these numbers wont be far out.;


NRL were on $500m over 6 years and went to 1B over 5y = about 120m
AFL were on $740m over 5 and went to 1.25B over 5y= Not a lot more than 100m

the above figures are taken from media reports when deals where announced.

 

[Perth Red]

Expansion deal Gone from $13-15mill a year to $15-20mill a year in a day!

 

[BuffaloRules]

And no one from afl land disputed it when it was reported.

Why would they?

“ GWS is lying…. we are pumping in hundreds of millions to prop them up and the sad thing is that they bring in nothing in return”…

 

[baselinepanther]

And no one from afl land disputed it when it was reported.

hahaha

why would they ?

they're worse BS artists then the midgets

 

[baselinepanther]

Nope it went from $250mill a year to $418mill a year after expansion. $168mill increase to be accurate. $58mill a year more than nrl.

Australian media deals
nrl
2007-2012 $83mill a year
2013-2017 $200mill a year
2018-2022 $360mill a year
2023-2027 ?.?.?

afl
2007-2011 $156mill a year
2012-2016 $250mill a year
2017-2022 $418mill a year
2023-2024 $473mill a year

the increases for 23 -24
are from foxtel only

we have the BS from the awful
473 mill a year

& this from foxtel
"The extension of the rights deal resets the discounts associated with COVID and is financially little changed from the original 2017-22 agreement," a Foxtel spokesman said.

so
23-24
$420 mill a year

and then theres telstra
they are supposed to be contributing 50 mill of that 418 a year , but that was for exclusive streaming rights . They now don't have them

anyone suggesting they are still contributing 50 mill per year for replays , highlights & just shits n gigs has got rocks in their head.
This is shaping up as an unmitigated disaster for the awful.

 

[baselinepanther]

NRL seals $100m broadcast deal with Foxtel for expansion in Brisbane​

In a landmark development for the code, the NRL’s Pay-TV partner has thrown its support behind a second Brisbane team with a mega deal.

Peter Badel and Brent Read

3 min read
October 4, 2021 - 8:06PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom
https://www.couriermail.com.au/spor.../89309f259f7160c9db11f58d972046fe#share-tools

NRL​

The NRL has agreed to terms with Foxtel on a new broadcast deal for a 17-team competition in a move poised to deliver an NRL expansion windfall of up to $100 million.
In a landmark development for the code, the NRL’s Pay-TV partner has thrown its support behind a second Brisbane team with a mega deal that will bankroll rugby league’s most significant expansionary move in 14 years.
As revealed by News Corp last week, the NRL is inching towards expansion with the ARL Commission tipped to announce Queensland’s fourth club by the end of October.
Now ARL Commission boss Peter V’landys will attend a meeting with the 16 NRL clubs on Thursday armed with a beefed-up broadcasting deal from Foxtel worth between $17-20 million annually.
Applying the figure across the sport’s traditional five-year broadcast cycle, a new 17th franchise will be worth between $85-100 million to the NRL in a deal that will guarantee the existing 16 clubs are financial winners from expansion.

Australian Rugby League Commission chairman Peter V'landys (right) and National Rugby League chief executive Andrew Abdo (Photo by Mark Metcalfe/Getty Images)
Contrary to reports, there are no conditions attached to News Corp Australia’s updated broadcast deal and it is incorrect to suggest the NRL has agreed to reduce Brisbane Broncos free-to-air games by 25 per cent.
V’landys promised the clubs he would not expand unless the business case stacked-up — and Foxtel’s fresh broadcasting agreement with the NRL is evidence the code is ready for a second Brisbane team to rival the Broncos in 2023.
Should the clubs provide unanimous support to V’landys, the NRL’s Expansion Assessment Committee will recommend the preferred candidate for a 17th licence to the ARL Commission on Friday.
Three consortia, the Jets, Firehawks and Dolphins, are bidding to become Brisbane’s second team.

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As revealed by News Corp last month, the Redcliffe-backed Dolphins are the strong favourites to win the 17th licence by virtue of their $100 million asset base, 40,000 Leagues Club members and thriving catchment in the Moreton Bay region.

Redcliffe Dolphins bid chief Terry Reader. Picture Lachie Millard
There is also a view the Dolphins, based 40km north of Brisbane’s headquarters at Red Hill, will not cannibalise the Broncos in the south-east Queensland market.
When News Corp extended its broadcast deal with the NRL last year until the end of 2027, there was a provision in the contract to renegotiate terms if a new team was added to the Telstra Premiership.
Foxtel has subsequently come to the party with a bumper deal that is backing the NRL’s vision for expansion in 2023.
V’landys declined to discuss financial terms on Monday night as he prepares to table the financial benefits of a second Brisbane team to the 16 clubs.

ARLC chairman Peter V'landys will approach clubs soon. Picture. Phil Hillyard
“We will outline the full financial details to the clubs on Thursday,” he said.
“I’ve given the clubs my assurances the business case has to stack up and my view hasn’t changed on that.
“I don’t wish to comment any further on expansion until I address the clubs on Thursday.
“There is only an Expansion Assessment Committee meeting pencilled in for Friday if the clubs agree to expansion.
“If we can’t present a case to the clubs that it (expansion) stacks up, then we are in trouble.
“I’ve always given them my word that we would only expand if it wasn’t detrimental to the existing clubs.”
The Nine Network is locked in talks with the ARL Commission over an extension to their existing deal, which runs until the end of next year.



Their decision to delay talks amid purported interest from the Seven and Ten Networks, may come back to bite them given the code’s ratings have skyrocketed in recent weeks.
The finals series has been a ratings bonanza, driving up the value of the broadcast rights on a weekly basis.
Sunday night’s grand final between Souths and Penrith was the NRL’s most-watched decider in five years, attracting a total audience of 3.596 million viewers.
While Foxtel got ahead of the curve and agreed an extension with the Commission, the Nine Network elected for a more cautious approach.
It might end up hitting them in the hip pocket given the recent ratings would suggest the value of the NRL as a television product is on the rise.
At one point, there was talk that the code could split the rights free-to-air rights and sell State of Origin and NRL games as a separate package.
However, it is understood the Nine Network is close to securing a new long-term deal that mirrors the Foxtel deal in terms of length of tenure.
Under terms of Foxtel’s beefed-up deal for a 17-team league, an extra 12 games will be played during the season and crucially there will be more content in Brisbane, providing another genuine option for a south-east Queensland rivalry.
Originally published as NRL seals $100m broadcast deal with Foxtel for expansion in Brisbane

https://www.couriermail.com.au/spor...n/news-story/89309f259f7160c9db11f58d972046fe

wow

just wow

 

[Diesel]

$100m for the Dolphins is impressive.

Ben Dobbin from Triple M Brisbane is saying 9 are going to be awarded the FTA rights. f**k I hope he’s wrong

 

[tri_colours]

the above figures are taken from media reports when deals where announced.

The NRL figure was reported after the deal had been done!

 

[Perth Red]

Why would they?

“ GWS is lying…. we are pumping in hundreds of millions to prop them up and the sad thing is that they bring in nothing in return”…

Plenty of clubs who arent happy about the expansion teams sucking up money, I reckon someone would have had a dig at the claim if they knew it to be untrue. Believe it or dont believe it, no skin off my nose but until I see some counter claim or evidence then its out there as a claim for what expansion was worth to them.

Just like our media this week with one claiming $13-15mill is coming from Fox and a day later one claiming $17-20mill is coming. Until NRL confirms it or we see the figures in the annual report we wont really know. true amount. Regradless its good news that Fox is paying extra for expansion and we can finally start growing the comp again. On top of the deal with Sky NZ that's two good news outcomes for the game. Hopefully a good FTA deal will be next.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

but keep living in your bubble with your tank top & tight shorts

hahaha - killed me

 

[colly]

Nope it went from $250mill a year to $418mill a year after expansion. $168mill increase to be accurate. $58mill a year more than nrl.

Australian media deals
nrl
2007-2012 $83mill a year
2013-2017 $200mill a year
2018-2022 $360mill a year
2023-2027 ?.?.?

afl
2007-2011 $156mill a year
2012-2016 $250mill a year
2017-2022 $418mill a year
2023-2024 $473mill a year

Looking at the 2017-2022 deal you referenced at $418m a year. This also contains contra, however lets see how the $418m a year is made:
Foxtel $218 with little changed in new deal
Seven $150m with No change in new deal
Telstra $50m showing Live games on mobiles and tablets.
Total $418 per year over 6 years $2508m

So explain to me how the AFL goes from $418 per year to $473 per year (even with Telstra paying the Phantom $50m yearly payment ) so $473 now? from $418 leaves a $55m yearly shortfall. $55m is no piddling amount.
Of course you know my position in regards to Telstra, but again even with Telstra they never add up.
So with no telstra streaming yearly payment $50m and the $55m shortfall = $105 million dollars or $210m over two years loss of media rights payments.

 

[Perth Red]

Looking at the 2017-2022 deal you referenced at $418m a year. This also contains contra, however lets see how the $418m a year is made:
Foxtel $218 with little changed in new deal
Seven $150m with No change in new deal
Telstra $50m showing Live games on mobiles and tablets.
Total $418 per year over 6 years $2508m

So explain to me how the AFL goes from $418 per year to $473 per year (even with Telstra paying the Phantom $50m yearly payment ) so $473 now? from $418 leaves a $55m yearly shortfall. $55m is no piddling amount.
Of course you know my position in regards to Telstra, but again even with Telstra they never add up.
So with no telstra streaming yearly payment $50m and the $55m shortfall = $105 million dollars or $210m over two years loss of media rights payments.

You’ll have to ask their ceo, or wait until 2024 to see the ‘23 annual report to see if it was true or not.

Given we are throwing out hypotheticals maybe the "on-demand" showing of games on Telstra is a Pay stream option that will generate revenue for Telstra? Maybe your gap is partly made up by Ch7 deal. The new 5 year deal is same annual amount as old one when divided by the 5 years, but we know the 2020-2022 3 years was at a 20% covid discount rate so if amount per year is seen as same over life of 5 years it means the 23+24 years are significantly higher than the original deal ie $90mill more over the last 2 years?