2023-2028 next tv deal discussion

[siv]

So lets say its $30 mil per year for SOO

Or $10 mil each SOO game

GF will be worth the same as a SOO game

Thats $80mil per year for the rest - 3 games a week or 86 games plus 6 NRLW and 48 State Cup games

A NRL game doesnt look like its worth that much on its own

 

[Perth Red]

So lets say its $30 mil per year for SOO

Or $10 mil each SOO game

GF will be worth the same as a SOO game

Thats $80mil per year for the rest - 3 games a week or 86 games plus 6 NRLW and 48 State Cup games

A NRL game doesnt look like its worth that much on its own

That would be just FTA, then you would need to add in the value of the Fox deal per game. Lets say they are paying around $1.2billion for the five years. Thats $240mill a year. For 8 games that works out at $30mill per game. So overall each NRL game is worth $30mill from Fox plus three of them are worth a further $26.6mill from FTA. A good reason why its important we make sure the ninth game when it becomes available is sold to FTA not just Fox.
Fox exclusive games are worth $30million, non exclusive games are worth $56.6mill!

 

[siv]

Thats $240mill a year. For 8 games that works out at $30mill per game

$240 mil divided by 204 games

Is about $1 mil per game

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Ch 9 could not afford to loose the rights I really hope the NRL milked them for every cent. Was hoping for a miracle with Ten or 7 coming in with an 11th hour bid to top 9. It would have been exciting now seems more of the same.

If its Ch9 as likely will be they need some new people. Being abroad so watchnrl is fox coverage except for Origins & GF, listening to Gus as talented as football manager he is was not good. Being that negative on a GF with people who would not watch a lot of league (AFL states) listening was horrible. Hope its not more of the same and they totally refresh their coverage.

Numbers in the deal seem all smoke and mirrors at the moment. Herald will down play the figure while News corp will likely inflate it, so somewhere in between.

Surely the NRL execs including Abdo and Vlandys watch the 9 telecast and surely they can't be happy with the constant bagging of the game. You would hope this was something raised with 9 in the negotiations.

 

[Perth Red]

Sounds like Ch7 were only interested in SOO and 2 games a week so its not like NRL had a lot of choice is it? I'm sure if there were lots of equal options you wouldn't go with a Tv company who publicly says this about the game:

NRL has mismanaged game for years, says Nine in stunning broadside

The game's long-time free-to-air broadcaster has accused the NRL of ignoring the needs of players, clubs and fans wasting millions in broadcast money.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Chief_Chujo]

Yea two games pw on FTA is a non starter. Wasn't the scuttlebutt Seven were open to other FTA station airing games though? If Ten were willing to pickup a game or two it could have worked. Not ideal splitting the FTA base though.

 

[Perth Red]

Yea two games pw on FTA is a non starter. Wasn't the scuttlebutt Seven were open to other FTA station airing games though? If Ten were willing to pickup a game or two it could have worked. Not ideal splitting the FTA base though.

I dont think they cared who covered the rest tbh. They had their eye on SOO and as min club games as they could to sink Ch9 in the annual ratings war. They have beaten them this year without NRL, imagine the beating if Ch9 didnt have NRL!


'News Corp can also reveal Channel 7 has walked away from broadcast negotiations.
Seven was a genuine player in the discussions but is also tied to a rich deal with the AFL until the end of 2025.
News Corp has been told Seven wanted to pay around $30m to cover State of Origin each season. That offer has essentially been withdrawn.
Seven had also sought to cover the Sunday 4pm match each week and had spoken about broadcasting another game each round in a share deal with Fox Sports.
Aware their station had lost its cricket rights and their rugby union ratings were, at best, modest, Nine became anxious at Seven’s interest.'

Roundup: NRL broadcast rights deal, 10 Upfront, Today show, Succession

The NRL is poised to announce an historic new five-year broadcast deal with Channel 9 which could net rugby league a staggering $600m

www.mediaweek.com.au

 

[Diesel]

So it comes down to seven and seven for Alf rights and they’re not flush with cash
, hopefully they get low balled

 

[colly]

Media News: A certain Mr Red has only canned V Landy because he has two hats, one NSW racing, another Chairman of NRL. Even though when a certain media ( Nine) who purchased the Rugby Union to show on Saturdays and then than, potentially hurting the NRL - however the execs at Nine stupidly thought that they can Pubs and Clubs to show their Union games , hey presto Nine would have thought what a geat buy, look at the coverage we are getting. However V Landy put a stop to it via his power at Head of NSW racing and it's relationship with TAB, whereby TAB did not want to upset Vlandy & NSW racing, as Vlandy had let it be know that it interrupt the normal transmission of NSW racing on the Pubs and Clubs Tv screens to show Private school football was a NO NO. So a big one up for Vlandy their.
Next when you want to sell TV media rights, what better location setting than the Everest racing carnival. Get all the Nine top flyers their, flutes of shampers , chit chat and so on, again that a positive outcome of having a major exec/CEO/Chairman wearing two hats complimentary.

Peter V’Landy’s guests at The Everest included media bidding for NRL rights​

The Everest Chairman’s Room revealed the post-pandemic pecking order, reports Nine’s CBD columnist Samantha Hutchinson.

The media contingent assembled included Nine chief executive Mike Sneesby, Foxtel boss Patrick Delany and News Corp Australia’s executive chairman Michael Miller.

Ascendant Nine breakfast TV hosts Karl Stefanovic and Allison Langdon were spotted along with Nine sports anchor Cameron Williams and Nine publishing boss James Chessell – as well as the Herald’s executive editor Tory Maguire and editor Lisa Davies. Indeed, Nine talent outnumbered News Corp perhaps for the first time in a while – no doubt a good thing given there’s an NRL rights negotiation on foot.

Star of the show, as always, was Peter V’landys, who runs racing in NSW in between being executive chairman of the NRL. The code’s chief executive Andrew Abdo was also there. The News contingent included The Australian’s editor-in-chief Chris Dore, Sky News chief executive Paul Whittaker and Daily Telegraph editor Ben English. Seven chief executive James Warburton rounded out the media on show – his network is now a broadcast partner for the horses.

Roundup: NRL broadcast rights deal, 10 Upfront, Today show, Succession

The NRL is poised to announce an historic new five-year broadcast deal with Channel 9 which could net rugby league a staggering $600m

www.mediaweek.com.au

 

[Perth Red]

$600mill v $925mill. I’m still trying to figure out how this is a better fta deal???? Maybe the canapés in the racing boxes needed to be higher quality?

 

[Iamback]

So lets say its $30 mil per year for SOO

Or $10 mil each SOO game

GF will be worth the same as a SOO game

Thats $80mil per year for the rest - 3 games a week or 86 games plus 6 NRLW and 48 State Cup games

A NRL game doesnt look like its worth that much on its own

It isn't. Kayo and Fox cuts into the viewers and given production costs too

 

[tri_colours]

$600mill v $925mill. I’m still trying to figure out how this is a better fta deal???? Maybe the canapés in the racing boxes needed to be higher quality?

PR whats Fox paying AFL?

 

[colly]

$600mill v $925mill. I’m still trying to figure out how this is a better fta deal???? Maybe the canapés in the racing boxes needed to be higher quality?

The NRL NEVER recieved $925 off Nine- and you know it. Most of the $$ were payed bewteen Nine and Foxtel via sub leasing. However if we recieve the $115-120m for FTA with the NZ FTA $'s will most likey be bigger than the AFL. If we get a yearly international event for example World Invitational ( Held in late Oct/Nov) I could see a extra potential ten million or $50m over 5 years. Game over we won.

The National Rugby League (NRL), Australia’s elite rugby league competition, is reportedly close to agreeing a five-year broadcast rights extension with domestic free-to-air (FTA) broadcaster Nine.

According to reports in Australia, the NRL and Nine are set to sign a new five-year deal worth AUS$600 million (US$445 million), which would run until the end of the 2027 season.

The Sydney Morning Held reports that talks are now at an ‘advanced stage’, with an agreement set to be announced in the next two weeks.

Nine’s last deal with the NRL was worth AUS$925 million (US$686 million) for rights to all matches, with the commercial network then sub-licensing five games per week to Foxtel. Nine’s annual NRL fee dropped to AUS$115 million (US$85.2 million) per year, plus AUS$10 million (US$7.4 million) in contra advertising, after it sold on a portion of the contract to the pay-TV network.

NRL and Nine nearing AUS$600m broadcast deal, say reports- SportsPro

The reported five-year contract would be the largest free-to-air media rights deal in the NRL's history.

www.sportspromedia.com

 

[siv]

I thought Ch9 last deal was for 4 games

And it sub-leased only 1 game the Saturday 7:30 game back to Fox

 

[Coastbloke]

And I'd bet almost anything that not one word was spoken about Internationals. Not one single iota of an utterance. Guaranteed...

 

[Perth Red]

The NRL NEVER recieved $925 off Nine- and you know it. Most of the $$ were payed bewteen Nine and Foxtel via sub leasing. However if we recieve the $115-120m for FTA with the NZ FTA $'s will most likey be bigger than the AFL. If we get a yearly international event for example World Invitational ( Held in late Oct/Nov) I could see a extra potential ten million or $50m over 5 years. Game over we won.

The National Rugby League (NRL), Australia’s elite rugby league competition, is reportedly close to agreeing a five-year broadcast rights extension with domestic free-to-air (FTA) broadcaster Nine.

According to reports in Australia, the NRL and Nine are set to sign a new five-year deal worth AUS$600 million (US$445 million), which would run until the end of the 2027 season.

The Sydney Morning Held reports that talks are now at an ‘advanced stage’, with an agreement set to be announced in the next two weeks.

Nine’s last deal with the NRL was worth AUS$925 million (US$686 million) for rights to all matches, with the commercial network then sub-licensing five games per week to Foxtel. Nine’s annual NRL fee dropped to AUS$115 million (US$85.2 million) per year, plus AUS$10 million (US$7.4 million) in contra advertising, after it sold on a portion of the contract to the pay-TV network.

NRL and Nine nearing AUS$600m broadcast deal, say reports- SportsPro

The reported five-year contract would be the largest free-to-air media rights deal in the NRL's history.

www.sportspromedia.com

That is incorrect. NRL signed a $175mill cash a year deal with Nine.
Nine then recouped $55mill of that back from Fox for simucast and Saturday night.
That meant the NRL cost Nine $120mill (cash) BUT they actually still paid NRL $175mill cash.
Unless Fox is now paying the NRL $60mill cash more than the last deal due to the new contract now covering simucast and Saturday nights games its a net loss for NRL.
Either way you look at it at the BIGGEST FTA deal ever done was delivered by Smith for $925million.
If it led to the biggest TV deal overall I guess we will never know as we wont know what this deal done is.

 

[Iamback]

I thought Ch9 last deal was for 4 games

And it sub-leased only 1 game the Saturday 7:30 game back to Fox

it was. That affected the end worth

 

[Perth Red]

PR whats Fox paying AFL?

This article has it at 20% higher than last deal, overall they are stating their 2 year extension deal is worth $946mill or $473mill a year. Their last deal was $418mill a year. Same article has Seven paying just under $150mill a season for 23&24. Contra is usually around 4-8% of totals that are stated.

Foxtel, Telstra extend AFL rights deal

Foxtel and Telstra have extended their broadcast rights deal with the AFL for two years to cover the 2023 and 2024 seasons.

www.afr.com

 

[Perth Red]

And I'd bet almost anything that not one word was spoken about Internationals. Not one single iota of an utterance. Guaranteed...

Would love to have seen Seven get SOO and Internationals. They did a great job with the RLWC.

 

[Iamback]

That is incorrect. NRL signed a $175mill cash a year deal with Nine.
Nine then recouped $55mill of that back from Fox for simucast and Saturday night.
That meant the NRL cost Nine $120mill (cash) BUT they actually still paid NRL $175mill cash.
Unless Fox is now paying the NRL $60mill cash more than the last deal due to the new contract now covering simucast and Saturday nights games its a net loss for NRL.
Either way you look at it at the BIGGEST FTA deal ever done was delivered by Smith for $925million.
If it led to the biggest TV deal overall I guess we will never know as we wont know what this deal done is.

$120m is the value then. So PVL got the same value despite Covid and FTA dying