2023-2028 next tv deal discussion

[Steel Saints]

This post and the one prior were very good summations. The fact of the matter is we have been dudded by media companies for a long time. For example, the first thing you would do is look at alternatives away from Fox. Threaten them.

Firstly, a lot of this comes from how we project ourselves out to them - we can’t put a side here of there because they are AFL states for example or another example being let’s play a final in front of 10k people. As a consequence, they see a product who isn’t confident in themselves and if push came to shove they fold. You need to change this attitude.

Secondly, we need people involved in the last deal to go essentially. We need people from outside of the game - people involved in American or European sport or even fumbleball. Nobody tied to league politics or how things are always done.

Sure that might mean they get some of the players names wrong initially but we need people with fresh ideas and vision and who can actually sell a game, not somebody tied into how things are currently done and who has some inferiority complex or deferential viewpoints.

The commission needs people who can negotiate a tv/ media deal, has contacts with major companies like CBS, Google, Facebook and also knows how to extract and maximise revenue from one game. And then you can repeat that process with the other 200 games in a season.

More importantly, they will know when the timing is right to do a deal. And are also in the know with the latest 'player' entering the market. You need commissioners who are experts in media rights and therefore you take the pressure off the CEO at the time.

 

[Captain Apollo]

Don't Roosters own an apartment block too? Which young guys get housed

Sydney Roosters House

With the Sydney Roosters being a recruitment Club, the importance of having a premise for relocating Academy players to be housed is imperative to their development both on and off the field.

www.roosters.com.au

 

[Iamback]

Sydney Roosters House

With the Sydney Roosters being a recruitment Club, the importance of having a premise for relocating Academy players to be housed is imperative to their development both on and off the field.

www.roosters.com.au

Thanks, I'd expect if times get tough they could flog those off to move some funds around

 

[The_Wookie]

Have they confirmed it stays as a afternoon GF?

Subject to annual review.

 

[Wb1234]

The best thing is we know nine offered 500 million for the entire afl rights. They clearly want to grow stan and the best route would be to try and get foxtels number one content

so clearly foxtel will be facing competition from Stan next time

assuming the afl really got 440 million from foxtel then this competitive bidding should see the nrl get 500 million from foxtel (assuming the afl isn’t lieing)

throw in 150 million from nine and sky nz and it will be a record

the only downside is potentially more 9 coverage but it would mean we are free of Murdoch finally

 

[Wb1234]

You can't pay players in contra
So we will see the true value soon enough when the salary cap is set

Exactly.

they are claiming an extra 170 million pa over the current deal so players will be asking for massive pay rises next year if it’s actually true

the cba negotiations will show the truth

 

[Colk]

The best thing is we know nine offered 500 million for the entire afl rights. They clearly want to grow stan and the best route would be to try and get foxtels number one content

so clearly foxtel will be facing competition from Stan next time

assuming the afl really got 440 million from foxtel then this competitive bidding should see the nrl get 500 million from foxtel (assuming the afl isn’t lieing)

throw in 150 million from nine and sky nz and it will be a record

the only downside is potentially more 9 coverage but it would mean we are free of Murdoch finally

You actually think that we will ever get $500 m from Pay TV? I admire your confidence

 

[Wb1234]

You actually think that we will ever get $500 m from Pay TV? I admire your confidence

Honestly I think the afl is full of bs with their figures and the real figure is around 520 million pa

but if they aren’t lieing then sure my argument holds. Stan bidding is going to make foxtel pay through the nose

let foxtel be stuck solely with afl and see if they can survive without the nrl

foxtel has never faced genuine competition for its nrl rights

it’s never paid what they are worth

 

[Storm80]

Of course they will, f**k he gifted them a deal of a lifetime, even sweeter than when they actually ran the game!

I mean Packer used to say “you only get one alan bond in your lifetime”… I’m pretty sure Murdoch is saying “I get an alan bond every 5 years when I negotiate NRL TV rights”.

What an absolute disaster

 

[Iamback]

Exactly.

they are claiming an extra 170 million pa over the current deal so players will be asking for massive pay rises next year if it’s actually true

the cba negotiations will show the truth

That is it for both codes

Most sports in the world use a 50/50 split. So whatever the clubs/players get, double that. There is the cash figure.

 

[Western_Eel]

Let's be honest, we're lightyears behind fumbleball to the point we'll never catch up, and it's all because we've let self-interest from the NSWRL and its clubs dictate terms for forty years. The NSWRL killed every other major rugby league competition in the country. Now they're killing themselves.

AwFuL clubs continue to grow while ours remain stagnant. The revenue divide is enormous and growing wider every TV deal. It'll come to the stage where we won't have the resources to fund junior RL and we'll have schools fielding fumbleball teams. Don't be surprised if fumbleball uses its money and influence to convert RL fields at high schools into fumbleball fields.

How much funding is put into junior RL? it costs my 10 year old $250 to play RL, where does that money go?

 

[Colk]

Honestly I think the afl is full of bs with their figures and the real figure is around 520 million pa

but if they aren’t lieing then sure my argument holds. Stan bidding is going to make foxtel pay through the nose

let foxtel be stuck solely with afl and see if they can survive without the nrl

foxtel has never faced genuine competition for its nrl rights

it’s never paid what they are worth

You want to know why it is never been paid what it is worth? Because we simply don’t have the same intelligence or guts as fumbleball management and we are completely owned by News Limited (maybe not owned in the traditional sense but pretty much caving in at every opportunity)

If V’Landys or anybody of his ilk is still running the game, we’ll get the same deal as before with maybe a 5% increase to shut us up.

In order for anything like the above scenario to occur, we would need a whole new commission (without a league background) and somebody who is not going to cave into News Limited or the clubs. Essentially somebody with a proven background in international sports management that when the pressure is weighed upon them (and it will because News Limited don’t want to pay more), they can go and point to their background to push things through.

 

[Western_Eel]

The NRL should consider the clock stoping at all game stoppages and play quarters instead of halves.

 

[The_Wookie]

Exactly.

they are claiming an extra 170 million pa over the current deal so players will be asking for massive pay rises next year if it’s actually true

the cba negotiations will show the truth

thjey'll get 28% of revenue like always. Thats not just media rights revenue.

 

[Captain Apollo]

Ask and, as expected, Mr Masters delivers -

Rubbery figures, but AFL has 100 million reasons to gloat over TV deal

On face value, the AFL’s eye-watering broadcast deal could have Peter V’landys reaching for something stronger than coffee, but there remains strained optimism at Rugby League Central.

www.smh.com.au

 

[The_Wookie]

That is it for both codes

Most sports in the world use a 50/50 split. So whatever the clubs/players get, double that. There is the cash figure.

or you could do some research and find out its not true in Australia.

AFL players get 28% of total revenue...thats not likely to change much.
Cricketers get 27.5% of total revenue.

NRL players dont get a fixed percentage.

 

[tri_colours]

The network only outlay what they can recoup. Its not V'landys fault that league only has 1/3 of the advertisement opportunities that the AFL have. V’landys was vastly superior to Gil during the Covid period(no loans), made good profits, as opposed to losses for the other mob, and our ratings are now better than there’s even at a home and away club level.

 

[LeagueXIII]

they won’t, they will massively increase spending in those states though.
Tassie will be next then club 20 may or may not happen in this tv deal lifetime but there isn’t an obvious candidate other than maybe canberra.

What chance a third team out of WA?

 

[ayatollah_murdoch]

Ask and, as expected, Mr Masters delivers -

Rubbery figures, but AFL has 100 million reasons to gloat over TV deal

On face value, the AFL’s eye-watering broadcast deal could have Peter V’landys reaching for something stronger than coffee, but there remains strained optimism at Rugby League Central.

www.smh.com.au

Roy is either too kind or (more likely) embarrassed to explicitly state V'landys cocked up

 

[ayatollah_murdoch]

Ask and, as expected, Mr Masters delivers -

Rubbery figures, but AFL has 100 million reasons to gloat over TV deal

On face value, the AFL’s eye-watering broadcast deal could have Peter V’landys reaching for something stronger than coffee, but there remains strained optimism at Rugby League Central.

www.smh.com.au

Roy is either too kind or (more likely) embarrassed to explicitly state V'landys cocked up