2023-2028 next tv deal discussion

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Why Roosters-bound Brandon Smith is on the nose with Craig Bellamy

Smith had worn out his welcome in Melbourne, to the point where coach Craig Bellamy didn’t even mention his name when paying tribute to departing players during his final media conference of the year.

amp.theage.com.au

Even weedler can work out all the stuff vlandys has done and weedler is a dope

also some talk about future nrl tv deals

“In 2019, the 16 NRL clubs as a group recorded $38 million in losses,” he wrote. “During COVID, when the NRL increased net funding to clubs from $29 million to $86.4 million, it meant that the 16 clubs as a group made approximately $30 million in profit when other businesses and sports were incurring heavy losses. This was on top of the $144 million per annum the NRL paid the players on behalf of the clubs.

“For the next five years we have proposed a 140% increase in funding to clubs as compared to 2019. It’s expected players are going to receive a 19% increase, 12% adjusting for expansion. Not bad considering most employees are on average receiving a 3% increase.

“Yet a minority, rather than being appreciative, are demanding more. However, what is disappointing is they have a strategy to personally attack me and the NRL in order to achieve their unrealistic demands. The NRL next year will have record revenues and a cost-effective operation, which will make record distributions to players and clubs.

“To single out broadcast in isolation is misleading and opportunistic. Firstly, the AFL’s new broadcast deal does not start until 2025. It finishes in 2031. Before 2025, the NRL will likely have done a new broadcast deal. This will mean more distributions to clubs and players and a cost-effective operation. Also, a substantial part of the AFL revenue goes to operational costs. The NRL operational costs are now 25% of its revenue. In stark contrast, the AFL operational expenses in 2021 were 47% of its revenue.

“Infighting inside the game has always held us back. Attacking the game to achieve a better result for one stakeholder group comes at the cost of the overall game. Ironically, damaging the game will hurt all of us in the future.”

Why Roosters-bound Brandon Smith is on the nose with Craig Bellamy

Smith had worn out his welcome in Melbourne, to the point where coach Craig Bellamy didn’t even mention his name when paying tribute to departing players during his final media conference of the year.

amp.theage.com.au

He's boasting about taking money away from all levels below NRL and handing it to NRL clubs who made a massive loss in 2019.

How is that good for the game?

Surprise surprise, the clubs he bailed out are still whinging!

The same thing happened to John Grant after he caved in to the clubs.

We need to stop pandering to the clubs and start investing in juniors and expansion. If the poorer clubs wish to spend more than they earn then let them find their way out of trouble or kick them out when they go bust.

 

[baselinepanther]

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“In 2019, the 16 NRL clubs as a group recorded $38 million in losses,” he wrote. “During COVID, when the NRL increased net funding to clubs from $29 million to $86.4 million, it meant that the 16 clubs as a group made approximately $30 million in profit when other businesses and sports were incurring heavy losses. This was on top of the $144 million per annum the NRL paid the players on behalf of the clubs.​

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“For the next five years we have proposed a 140% increase in funding to clubs as compared to 2019. It’s expected players are going to receive a 19% increase, 12% adjusting for expansion. Not bad considering most employees are on average receiving a 3% increase.​

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“Yet a minority, rather than being appreciative, are demanding more. However, what is disappointing is they have a strategy to personally attack me and the NRL in order to achieve their unrealistic demands. The NRL next year will have record revenues and a cost-effective operation, which will make record distributions to players and clubs.​

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“To single out broadcast in isolation is misleading and opportunistic. Firstly, the AFL’s new broadcast deal does not start until 2025. It finishes in 2031. Before 2025, the NRL will likely have done a new broadcast deal. This will mean more distributions to clubs and players and a cost-effective operation. Also, a substantial part of the AFL revenue goes to operational costs. The NRL operational costs are now 25% of its revenue. In stark contrast, the AFL operational expenses in 2021 were 47% of its revenue.​

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“Infighting inside the game has always held us back. Attacking the game to achieve a better result for one stakeholder group comes at the cost of the overall game. Ironically, damaging the game will hurt all of us in the future.”​

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Why Roosters-bound Brandon Smith is on the nose with Craig Bellamy

Smith had worn out his welcome in Melbourne, to the point where coach Craig Bellamy didn’t even mention his name when paying tribute to departing players during his final media conference of the year.

amp.theage.com.au

He's boasting about taking money away from all levels below NRL and handing it to NRL clubs who made a massive loss in 2019.

How is that good for the game?

Surprise surprise, the clubs he bailed out are still whinging!

The same thing happened to John Grant after he caved in to the clubs.

We need to stop pandering to the clubs and start investing in juniors and expansion. If the poorer clubs wish to spend more than they earn then let them find their way out of trouble or kick them out when they go bust.

the NRL spent more on grass roots then the aflol did during covid
so I'd be a bit better informed before posting crap if i were you...

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Where are you getting this information? There has been no reports

He's making it up like usual. I'm pretty sure he once claimed Redcliffe wouldn't field a side in the Queensland Cup after getting an NRL licence. That prediction turned out to be a flop.

 

[The_Wookie]

Why Roosters-bound Brandon Smith is on the nose with Craig Bellamy

Smith had worn out his welcome in Melbourne, to the point where coach Craig Bellamy didn’t even mention his name when paying tribute to departing players during his final media conference of the year.

amp.theage.com.au

Even weedler can work out all the stuff vlandys has done and weedler is a dope

also some talk about future nrl tv deals

Weidler didnt have to work out anything. He was literally emailed by Vlandys.

 

[Colk]

And the overheads for the 2?

Shouldn’t that be more of an argument for expansion and a national competition, not a rejection.

Imagine if we had similar revenue coming in with the expenses being a lot lower.

 

[Colk]

Weidler didnt have to work out anything. He was literally emailed by Vlandys.

Yeah because they hurt his feelings. He’s literally jumping at shadows.

 

[Iamback]

He's making it up like usual. I'm pretty sure he once claimed Redcliffe wouldn't field a side in the Queensland Cup after getting an NRL licence. That prediction turned out to be a flop.

Why would they do that you dumb shit?

 

[Colk]

hahahaha

so just have you & the clown moaning til 2027 about how badly he did & the difference .. the difference ... the difference
in the first 3 years of their new deal & the last 3 of our deal
yea nah

he will ensure the starting point & the ..... difference ... for the next deal will be way way less

Vlandys
an effing genious

No because what he is doing is not smart negotiation. If I were Nine/Foxtel and I have the power (because he can’t break the existing contract - can he?) what would I do in this circumstance.

Do you think they are going to give him an extra $100 million out of the kindness of their heart? Are they not going to demand anything in return, particularly when they so easily played him last time? If they give him any increase, it is an absolute guarantee they will want extra years in exchange, again meaning we are locked out of an open tender and maximising TV revenue.

 

[Iamback]

Shouldn’t that be more of an argument for expansion and a national competition, not a rejection.

Imagine if we had similar revenue coming in with the expenses being a lot lower.

It will come, For example Dolphins and 4 new NRLW teams are in this broadcast cycle. Money doesn't grow on trees.

As I said I want to see growth and areas are seeing that

 

[baselinepanther]

No because what he is doing is not smart negotiation. If I were Nine/Foxtel and I have the power (because he can’t break the existing contract - can he?) what would I do in this circumstance.

Do you think they are going to give him an extra $100 million out of the kindness of their heart? Are they not going to demand anything in return, particularly when they so easily played him last time? If they give him any increase, it is an absolute guarantee they will want extra years in exchange, again meaning we are locked out of an open tender and maximising TV revenue.

rubbish
the commission won't sign off on any further extension of the deal

they're going to give him an extra 100 mill pa ( the 100 mill they said they didn't have but .. oh hey .. turns out they did ) because if they don't ... they will not get the rights in 2027 regardless of what they bid


you think foxtel will let us walk ?
they'd be out of business a year later ....

 

[Wb1234]

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“In 2019, the 16 NRL clubs as a group recorded $38 million in losses,” he wrote. “During COVID, when the NRL increased net funding to clubs from $29 million to $86.4 million, it meant that the 16 clubs as a group made approximately $30 million in profit when other businesses and sports were incurring heavy losses. This was on top of the $144 million per annum the NRL paid the players on behalf of the clubs.​

​

“For the next five years we have proposed a 140% increase in funding to clubs as compared to 2019. It’s expected players are going to receive a 19% increase, 12% adjusting for expansion. Not bad considering most employees are on average receiving a 3% increase.​

​

“Yet a minority, rather than being appreciative, are demanding more. However, what is disappointing is they have a strategy to personally attack me and the NRL in order to achieve their unrealistic demands. The NRL next year will have record revenues and a cost-effective operation, which will make record distributions to players and clubs.​

​

“To single out broadcast in isolation is misleading and opportunistic. Firstly, the AFL’s new broadcast deal does not start until 2025. It finishes in 2031. Before 2025, the NRL will likely have done a new broadcast deal. This will mean more distributions to clubs and players and a cost-effective operation. Also, a substantial part of the AFL revenue goes to operational costs. The NRL operational costs are now 25% of its revenue. In stark contrast, the AFL operational expenses in 2021 were 47% of its revenue.​

​

“Infighting inside the game has always held us back. Attacking the game to achieve a better result for one stakeholder group comes at the cost of the overall game. Ironically, damaging the game will hurt all of us in the future.”​

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Why Roosters-bound Brandon Smith is on the nose with Craig Bellamy

Smith had worn out his welcome in Melbourne, to the point where coach Craig Bellamy didn’t even mention his name when paying tribute to departing players during his final media conference of the year.

amp.theage.com.au

He's boasting about taking money away from all levels below NRL and handing it to NRL clubs who made a massive loss in 2019.

How is that good for the game?

Surprise surprise, the clubs he bailed out are still whinging!

The same thing happened to John Grant after he caved in to the clubs.

We need to stop pandering to the clubs and start investing in juniors and expansion. If the poorer clubs wish to spend more than they earn then let them find their way out of trouble or kick them out when they go bust.

We’re looking at this differently

I’m seeing the arlc delivering record funding to nrl clubs whilst afl was cutting their spending to their clubs

and during the time we made a healthy surplus and they lost money

if you can’t see that gill isn’t fit to tie vlandys shoelaces then I’m really shocked

governing bodies are famous at wasting money I’m happy the clubs are funded so well

in terms of junior development clubs do the best junior development work not the nrl

 

[Colk]

rubbish
the commission won't sign off on any further extension of the deal

they're going to give him an extra 100 mill pa ( the 100 mill they said they didn't have but .. oh hey .. turns out they did ) because if they don't ... they will not get the rights in 2027 regardless of what they bid


you think foxtel will let us walk ?
they'd be out of business a year later ....

What leverage would they have?

They can’t break the contract as I said and if you tell them you can’t bid or that you are going to move it, you’ll just get less on your next deal (supply and demand remember)

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Why would they do that you dumb shit?

I never said Redcliffe would pull out of the Queensland Cup.

 

[baselinepanther]

What leverage would they have?

They can’t break the contract as I said and if you tell them you can’t bid or that you are going to move it, you’ll just get less on your next deal (supply and demand remember)

omfg

the next deal is the leverage
& they can do what they effing well please with the contract if the other party agrees to it..

I'd be happy with a bit less if foxtel fold & the deal with the aflol with them .... 6 bill with paramount ten will get the job done ...

but that won't happen because foxtel WILL cough up & for exactly what they have now

 

[Colk]

omfg

the next deal is the leverage
& they can do what they effing well please with the contract if the other party agrees to it..

I'd be happy with a bit less if foxtel fold & the deal with the aflol with them .... 6 bill with paramount ten will get the job done ...

but that won't happen because foxtel WILL cough up & for exactly what they have now

Honestly do you know anything about supply and demand? If I bar two parties from negotiating or bidding for the rights, what do you think will happen

Ten/Paramount will bid a much lower amount than you are quoting because they are now not worried about having to outbid Foxtel or Nine. What happens if they bid something lower than Foxtel/Nine. Are we going to go back to Nine or Foxtel asking them to re-enter negotiations after we told them to go away?

The only way we are going to get what we are worth is to get every possible party to bid for it

 

[baselinepanther]

Honestly do you know anything about supply and demand? If I bar two parties from negotiating or bidding for the rights, what do you think will happen

Ten/Paramount will bid a much lower amount than you are quoting because they are now not worried about having to outbid Foxtel or Nine. What happens if they bid something lower than Foxtel/Nine. Are we going to go back to Nine or Foxtel asking them to re-enter negotiations after we told them to go away?

The only way we are going to get what we are worth is to get every possible party to bid for it

i do dopey
do you ?

you withdraw or threaten to the supply
the demand goes up
its a game of chicken ....

paramount will gladly be party to ending foxtel ... got close but couldn't do it with the aflol
they will... for the right price with the NRL

like ive said before
you seem very worried vlandys will correct this situation ..... real worried

but it'll be ok
honestly it will

 

[baselinepanther]

they'll be plenty of bidders other then foxtel

paramount
stan
amazon

they all need premium content to grow their streaming services & an a list sport will do it ...

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

What leverage would they have?

They can’t break the contract as I said and if you tell them you can’t bid or that you are going to move it, you’ll just get less on your next deal (supply and demand remember)

Going forward, the ARLC should not agree to a deal that's longer than three years. Keep the deals short, preferably one or two years, so all networks and streaming services are interested.

 

[baselinepanther]

hell , we have 5 years to set up doing it in house if foxtel say no ...thats problematic as has been discussed , but we become completely independent & long term that might be a very good thing.

but foxtel need to consider
no NRL
no foxtel

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

We’re looking at this differently

I’m seeing the arlc delivering record funding to nrl clubs whilst afl was cutting their spending to their clubs

and during the time we made a healthy surplus and they lost money

if you can’t see that gill isn’t fit to tie vlandys shoelaces then I’m really shocked

governing bodies are famous at wasting money I’m happy the clubs are funded so well

in terms of junior development clubs do the best junior development work not the nrl

Shane Richardson doesn't reckon the junior boundaries in Sydney have ever worked. I agree with him. AwFuL has increased its participation rate across the country under a centralised system while our game has gone backwards under the club-run system.

The game has dedicated the last 25 years to keeping small Sydney clubs alive and competitive through the annual grant. Take away the $15m each club gets and there's no way the Sydney clubs would compete with the Broncos. The grant seems to be going up every few years.

That suggests clubs are becoming even more dependent on hand outs. No wonder they're shitting the bed over the botched broadcast deal!

If players and clubs want a larger slice of the pie -- to the detriment of grassroots RL -- then they should be made to perform more development and promotional work across schools and junior leagues. Reduce training by one or two days each week so the players can get more involved with the community. It just might lead to more kids playing the game and attending NRL matches.