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2023 TV/Fox/Streaming Ratings

Iamback

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as Ive been told, they dont use those numbers for ratings.

Only because OzTam had a sook,

They can still go to advertisers and say x amount of eye balls watched this program

Go to the board and say x, y, z programs work and adjust programming accordingly.

So that is why in any dispute, I am trusting Fox/Kayo's numbers
 

Nerd

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Here is another thought. If we are going down this road of throwing the NZ ratings in, then comparing the codes is false equivalency. One has two countries represented. The other has one. Throwing the ratings of two countries in to the mix basically makes the comparison meaningless. But do go on. Chalk and cheese and all that.
I disagree. The Warriors play in the NRL so it's only fair to include any ratings from NZ. Using your logic that means we should exclude AFL ratings from Perth and Adelaide as their is no NRL team located there.
 

Iamback

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As I’ve written before it was legitimate in 1988 when I first worked with it and it still is. It’s been refined to the point where it’s undeniable. Unless of course you don’t like what it’s telling you.

Except there are these things called computers and when you stream programs, providers know.

Netflix doesn't need sampling to know what is or isn't going well
 

Wb1234

Referee
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I disagree. The Warriors play in the NRL so it's only fair to include any ratings from NZ. Using your logic that means we should exclude AFL ratings from Perth and Adelaide as their is no NRL team located there.
Excellent logic

we’re spotting afl an extra team and nine extra games and they are still get lapped

it’s not our fault we succeeded In nz where they failed
 

Harry O

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Excellent logic

we’re spotting afl an extra team and nine extra games and they are still get lapped

it’s not our fault we succeeded In nz where they failed
So when will we get the ratings figure from NZ? which century?
 

Wb1234

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Only because OzTam had a sook,

They can still go to advertisers and say x amount of eye balls watched this program

Go to the board and say x, y, z programs work and adjust programming accordingly.

So that is why in any dispute, I am trusting Fox/Kayo's numbers
Nailed it

foxtel sell ads based on viewers they will have the exact figures

dunno why wookie raised this red herring
 

Perth Red

Post Whore
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I disagree. The Warriors play in the NRL so it's only fair to include any ratings from NZ. Using your logic that means we should exclude AFL ratings from Perth and Adelaide as their is no NRL team located there.
It just a pissing up the wall contest anyway until it turns into $ advantage so might as well include British viewers on sky as well to make us feel even better lol
 

The_Wookie

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Only because OzTam had a sook,

No they never did. I got that direct from Foxtel staff.


They can still go to advertisers and say x amount of eye balls watched this program

Go to the board and say x, y, z programs work and adjust programming accordingly.

So that is why in any dispute, I am trusting Fox/Kayo's numbers

You can believe whatever numbers you like. Im satisfied that as far as the information goes, both the Kayo data and the oztam vpm data work
 

The_Wookie

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5 million people in nz but it’s too hard to provide an estimate so best to use zero

you can see on social media how popular it was

No its my refusal to invent data that is literally going to be little more than an uneducated guess. We have not had consistent data since 2015. We've had literally 4 separate media reports that sometimes give an increase without a starting point, or a number that could literally mean 1 of 3 things.

And if I did that with anything else, Id rightfully get called out by people here and on twitter. But no its ok here because....?

mate the popularity of my posts on twitter varies depending on the audience bias most of the time. on any given day the organisation I allegedly shill for changes across forums and twitter
 

Ralphy Twanger

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Simply the best

better than all the rest
The NSW figures intrigue me. What I find interesting is that the supposed biggest AFL club -- the Sydney Swans -- has a smaller internet search presence than the top 7 Sydney NRL clubs in NSW.

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And that said they only just beat the Sharks and Dragons this year.

But now let's compare - Rabbitohs, Eels, Sharks vs GWS & Swans--

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20 years:
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5 years:
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Basically GWS Giants is about a third as popular as Cronulla.

2023:
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If you find that intriguing you’re a dick!! Swans aren’t in the top 13-14 AFL clubs.
 

Ralphy Twanger

Juniors
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So when will we get the ratings figure from NZ? which century?
Why do we need them? Should we factor in the AFL games that overlap too? AFL for what ever reason is worth more to the Australian networks, they demolish our crowds to the point of it being laughable, the interest in the sport in the southern states is like nothing I’ve ever seen - surpasses Soccer in England FFS, why do you people spend so much time trying to downplay it? Enjoy it or jog on, never hear southerners bag RL like you clowns do.
 
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Harry O

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Why do we need them? Should we factor in the AFL games that overlap too? AFL for what ever reason is worth more to the Australian networks, they demolish our crowds to the point of it being laughable, the interest in the sport in the southern states is like nothing I’ve ever seen - surpasses Soccer in England FFS, why do you people spend so much time trying to downplay it? Enjoy it or jog on, never hear southerners bag RL like you clowns do.
You're into your 3rd post and you spoken more about flogball more then anyone else.
Why shouldn't we include NZ you dimwit? They're part of the NRL.

If flogball is so famous in Australia then how come we beat you in the ratings all the time? And that's not even counting NZ and if we add them then it will be more embarrassing for ÿour drop code.
So you think Mexicans don't bag Rugby League?
You must have tunnel vision.
 

Pneuma

First Grade
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Why do we need them? Should we factor in the AFL games that overlap too? AFL for what ever reason is worth more to the Australian networks, they demolish our crowds to the point of it being laughable, the interest in the sport in the southern states is like nothing I’ve ever seen - surpasses Soccer in England FFS, why do you people spend so much time trying to downplay it? Enjoy it or jog on, never hear southerners bag RL like you clowns do.
Your last comment is absolutely wrong. I live in a southern state. The paranoia amongst many of their fans is very real.
 

Wb1234

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Why do we need them? Should we factor in the AFL games that overlap too? AFL for what ever reason is worth more to the Australian networks, they demolish our crowds to the point of it being laughable, the interest in the sport in the southern states is like nothing I’ve ever seen - surpasses Soccer in England FFS, why do you people spend so much time trying to downplay it? Enjoy it or jog on, never hear southerners bag RL like you clowns do.
Afl sucks bro
 

Ralphy Twanger

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You're into your 3rd post and you spoken more about flogball more then anyone else.
Why shouldn't we include NZ you dimwit? They're part of the NRL.

If flogball is so famous in Australia then how come we beat you in the ratings all the time? And that's not even counting NZ and if we add them then it will be more embarrassing for ÿour drop code.
So you think Mexicans don't bag Rugby League?
You must have tunnel vision.
Why do they get crowds that dwarf ours?

Why do they get more TV money?

I’m a fan of both codes, I like basketball and soccer too (shock horror), reading this thread is just bizarre, the hatred aimed at AFL is simply next level, it’s fear IMO, like you’re all desperate to prove your code is bigger/better using any metric you can and completely ignoring the metrics that don’t suit, seriously who gives a stuff?
 

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