2023 TV/Fox/Streaming Ratings

[titoelcolombiano]

As has been discussed television ratings aren’t everything, if the roles were reversed and the NRL got the monster crowds and the AFL won the rating you’d likely change your tune, and for the record NRL ratings aren’t what they used to be either, from what I’ve been told anyway.

Crowds and attendances combined are your audience. The NRL has a bigger audience, so anyone would be pretty dumb to argue the opposite

 

[Wb1234]

Even the oldest millennials were only 15 or 16 in 1997. They had barely been following the game for very long so it didn't have the same impact. And now they're the ones taking their kids to games or watching it with them on tv. The level of resentment just isn't there like it once was.

I’d love to be a teen now and coming into rugby league with all the growth that’s happening it reminds me of 95

being a league fan was a real punish at times post 95 till 2020

 

[Pneuma]

Crowds and attendances combined are your audience. The NRL has a bigger audience, so anyone would be pretty dumb to argue the opposite

Racist homophobic afl trolls usually are pretty dumb.

 

[Ralphy Twanger]

Racist homophobic afl trolls usually are pretty dumb.

We tend to keep to ourselves because modern society isn’t very understanding.

 

[The_Wookie]

Incorrect

Swans average attendance
1993: 9k
1994: 10k

SL War Era
1995: 15k
1996: 27k
1997: 39k

2023: 36k

Brisbane Bears/Lions:
1993: 11k
1994: 12k

SL Era

1995: 10k
1996: 18k
1997: 19k

Premiership 3-peat / 4 straight GF's
2001: 27k
2002: 26k
2003: 31k
2004: 33k

2023: 31k

Swans run also coincided with their much better performances in the mid to late 90s - that also included the arrival of Barrassi and Lockett at the Swans. It cant all be blamed on Superleague. 1996 the Swans made the Grand Final. 1997 the average was 35,000 not not 39,000...they also reached that in 2007 in a grand final year.

Lions increased attendance from 1993 can also be at least partially attributed to them actually moving to Brisbane from Carrara and actually beginning to develop a proper home system - that co-incided with Superleague. Peaking across the triple premiership era is probably to be reasonably expected. This year the first grand final year for the Lions since 2004.

But Ill take the correction, some luck was involved. Superleague came along at an opportune time for the AFL as both the Swans and Lions changed directions right at the very start or just before it kicked off and reaped the benefits of the chaos.

Lions TV ratings are still abysmal mate, even for the recent GF appearance.

Matter of perspective. Ratings are ok for the Lions, shit compared to the Broncos. Someone has to come second or third and league is after all the main game in town.

Its like NRL crowds are overall shit compared to AFL ones, but they are still very good for NRL crowds. Both set records this year.

Crowds and attendances combined are your audience. The NRL has a bigger audience, so anyone would be pretty dumb to argue the opposite

Ratings remain a not black and white thing. The nature of average audiences being what they are, the audience spread in Australia isnt as wide as believed here - but with international audiences the NRL definitely should have that advantage.

I wish we still got the peak and reach audience data for Nine otherwise theres not much point me dwelling on that further here.

 

[NRLMad]

Australia picks players on form only. This means they pick new players to represent each year. Some of these players could have played for NZ or other nations. The only reason they play for Australia is due to the $30k per year. End the inequity and players will go off their heart alone, and represent their heritage. You don’t know shit.. heritage means more than where you are born.

Every one of the players you mentioned was born and lived their entire lives in Australia. The majority haven't even stepped foot in their 'home' country.

What are you even on about?

 

[NRLMad]

Didn’t say that. Comes down to the $30k plus per game played or not played. If they got paid $30k to Play for heritage team & $0 for Australia do you think they’d stick with Australia?

So players born in Australia. Can't play for Australia?

 

[Iamback]

Didn’t say that. Comes down to the $30k plus per game played or not played. If they got paid $30k to Play for heritage team & $0 for Australia do you think they’d stick with Australia?

Tonga are touring UK.

They are getting paid the same as NZ or Australia would be.

Staggs has switched to Australia but will get no extra pay.

part of the hold up for the CBA. Was funding for lesser nations, So Samoa are getting what Aust and NZ are

 

[APPSY]

Australia picks players on form only. This means they pick new players to represent each year. Some of these players could have played for NZ or other nations. The only reason they play for Australia is due to the $30k per year. End the inequity and players will go off their heart alone, and represent their heritage. You don’t know shit.. heritage means more than where you are born.

Bold of you to assume Australia picks on form

 

[Bgoodorgoodatit]

Look i don't post much these days but still follow a few threads. one point that's not been mentioned is the disparity in interstate migration south to north as opposed to north to south. I'm originally from Sydney but live in Brisbane every single AFL fan that i know is an interstate migrant. if they want to move here we should make them leave the Scarfe and Guernsey at the border.. haha.

 

[Wb1234]

Look i don't post much these days but still follow a few threads. one point that's not been mentioned is the disparity in interstate migration south to north as opposed to north to south. I'm originally from Sydney but live in Brisbane every single AFL fan that i know is an interstate migrant. if they want to move here we should make them leave the Scarfe and Guernsey at the border.. haha.

Good chance their offspring will be league

 

[The_Wookie]

As predicted, when all ratings counted NRLW granny hit the mill

 

[Perth Red]

Tonga are touring UK.

They are getting paid the same as NZ or Australia would be.

Staggs has switched to Australia but will get no extra pay.

part of the hold up for the CBA. Was funding for lesser nations, So Samoa are getting what Aust and NZ are

Has this been confirmed anywhere? It was a sticking point then wanst, so did nrl back away from it, put more money in the pot or did the pa,yers accept it? Never have found out.
How do you know what tonga are getting? It’s not part of the nrl payments, itll be a slice of the profits.

 

[Wb1234]

Has this been confirmed anywhere? It was a sticking point then wanst, so did nrl back away from it, put more money in the pot or did the pa,yers accept it? Never have found out.
How do you know what tonga are getting? It’s not part of the nrl payments, itll be a slice of the profits.

He’s right the arlc caved

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Swans run also coincided with their much better performances in the mid to late 90s - that also included the arrival of Barrassi and Lockett at the Swans. It cant all be blamed on Superleague. 1996 the Swans made the Grand Final. 1997 the average was 35,000 not not 39,000...they also reached that in 2007 in a grand final year.

Lions increased attendance from 1993 can also be at least partially attributed to them actually moving to Brisbane from Carrara and actually beginning to develop a proper home system - that co-incided with Superleague. Peaking across the triple premiership era is probably to be reasonably expected. This year the first grand final year for the Lions since 2004.

But Ill take the correction, some luck was involved. Superleague came along at an opportune time for the AFL as both the Swans and Lions changed directions right at the very start or just before it kicked off and reaped the benefits of the chaos.



Matter of perspective. Ratings are ok for the Lions, shit compared to the Broncos. Someone has to come second or third and league is after all the main game in town.

Its like NRL crowds are overall shit compared to AFL ones, but they are still very good for NRL crowds. Both set records this year.



Ratings remain a not black and white thing. The nature of average audiences being what they are, the audience spread in Australia isnt as wide as believed here - but with international audiences the NRL definitely should have that advantage.

I wish we still got the peak and reach audience data for Nine otherwise theres not much point me dwelling on that further here.

Re Swans crowds, it had everything to do with SL, Hence the stagnation, if it was premiership success that drew those astronomical gains then they would have seem surges in other premiership years and grown beyond the mid 30's, they haven't though because they've peaked and stagnated.

Ratings aren’t everything??? But they go a long way to determining broadcast deals (given competent administrators)

 

[Wb1234]

Re Swans crowds, it had everything to do with SL, Hence the stagnation, if it was premiership success that drew those astronomical gains then they would have seem surges in other premiership years and grown beyond the mid 30's, they haven't though because they've peaked and stagnated.

Ratings aren’t everything??? But they go a long way to determining broadcast deals (given competent administrators)

Ratings aren’t everything yet he devotes his website to collating them lol

 

[The_Wookie]

Re Swans crowds, it had everything to do with SL, Hence the stagnation, if it was premiership success that drew those astronomical gains then they would have seem surges in other premiership years and grown beyond the mid 30's, they haven't though because they've peaked and stagnated.

Ratings aren’t everything??? But they go a long way to determining broadcast deals (given competent administrators)

They also hit a similar peak in 2007, and dropped off to a combo of form and cannibalistion by the new Giants.




The raw ratings arent everything. The classic remains the misinterpretation of average viewership, completely missing the time component that assists in that determination, and thereby completely misconstruing the difference in total viewership in the AU markets.

Ratings aren’t everything yet he devotes his website to collating them lol

They arent everything and my site isnt devoted to it - just a big part. also finances and crowds and sponsors and memberships.

 

[Ralphy Twanger]

Re Swans crowds, it had everything to do with SL, Hence the stagnation, if it was premiership success that drew those astronomical gains then they would have seem surges in other premiership years and grown beyond the mid 30's, they haven't though because they've peaked and stagnated.

Ratings aren’t everything??? But they go a long way to determining broadcast deals (given competent administrators)

What “other” premiership years

 

[Ralphy Twanger]

Ratings aren’t everything yet he devotes his website to collating them lol

Dumb dumb’s back.

 

[Pneuma]

I don’t know why you guys are responding to this racist homophobic moron Twanger. He’s a complete fool.