2023 TV/Fox/Streaming Ratings

[Iamback]

He’s right the arlc caved

I wouldn't say caved.

They got the Government to put in $7m to have the series locked in for 5 years.

That helps the bottom line, which was only held up sorting out who paid for it.

 

[Iamback]

Has this been confirmed anywhere? It was a sticking point then wanst, so did nrl back away from it, put more money in the pot or did the pa,yers accept it? Never have found out.
How do you know what tonga are getting? It’s not part of the nrl payments, itll be a slice of the profits.

The CBA is agreed too.

The next week the tests are announced, With Government funding... Which adds to the pot.

I never said part of the same pot. England are paying Tonga the same as they would if NZ or Australia were touring in their place.

 

[NRLMad]

First time ever. Will start seeing players defect. Doesn’t stop the pressure from meninga and co - full time coaches, vs part time - not paid coaches for the other nations. Origin etc used to play a part.

Tonga are touring UK.

They are getting paid the same as NZ or Australia would be.

Staggs has switched to Australia but will get no extra pay.

part of the hold up for the CBA. Was funding for lesser nations, So Samoa are getting what Aust and NZ are

 

[NRLMad]

Haha true considering teddy. Other than recent time with meninga

Bold of you to assume Australia picks on form

 

[Iamback]

First time ever. Will start seeing players defect. Doesn’t stop the pressure from meninga and co - full time coaches, vs part time - not paid coaches for the other nations. Origin etc used to play a part.

players can now play Origin and for the islands

Players are now paid the same...

Not sure what else you want?

 

[Ralphy Twanger]

I don’t know why you guys are responding to this racist homophobic moron Twanger. He’s a complete fool.

Harsh

 

[The_Wookie]

Top Consolidated AU Sports Ratings in 2023
Data: Oztam/VOZ

Round	Home	Away	Ratings
WWC	Australia	England	7,330,000​
WWC	Australia	France	4,267,000​
AFL	Collingwood	Brisbane	3,988,000​
WWC	Australia	Demnark	3,583,000​
WWC	Sweden	Australia	3,431,000​
NRL	Penrith	Brisbane	3,415,000​
Origin	Queensland	New South Wales	3,294,000​
WWC	Spain	England	3,089,000​
Origin	New South Wales	Queensland	3,045,000​
Origin	Queensland	New South Wales	2,505,000​
WWC	Australia	Canada	2,496,000​
AFL	Brisbane	Carlton	2,231,000​
AFL	Collingwood	GWS	2,149,000​
AO	Mens Final		1,993,000​
WWC	Australia	Ireland	1,970,000​
AFL	Collingwood	Essendon	1,820,000​
NRL	Brisbane	Warriors	1,779,000​
AFL	Collingwood	Melbourne	1,754,000​
AFL	Melbourne	Carlton	1,725,000​
AFL	Carlton	Sydney	1,666,000​
AFL	Port Adelaide	GWS	1,579,000​
NRL	Brisbane	Melbourne	1,504,000​
WWC	Nigeria	Australia	1,484,000​
AFL	Melbourne	Collingwood	1,474,000​
NRL	Brisbane	Dolphins	1,472,000​
AFL	Richmond	Carlton	1,408,000​
NRL	Newcastle	Canberra	1,365,000​
Cricket	Ashes	T2 D1 S1	1,362,000​
NRL	Melbourne	Brisbane	1,358,000​
AFL	Brisbane	Port Adelaide	1,356,000​
NRL	Melbourne	Sydney	1,352,000​
AFL	Melbourne	Richmond	1,331,000​
AFL	Geelong	Collingwood	1,329,000​
AFL	Collingwood	Richmond	1,325,000​
NRL	Penrith	Melbourne	1,320,000​
NRL	Parramatta	Melbourne	1,308,000​
Cricket	Ashes	T4 D1 S1	1,300,000​
AFL	Collingwood	Brisbane	1,297,000​
NRL	South Sydney	Penrith	1,296,000​
AFL	Richmond	Sydney	1,288,000​
AFL	Sydney	Carlton	1,288,000​
AFL	Port Adelaide	Melbourne	1,285,000​
NRL	Brisbane	Penrith	1,283,000​
NRL	Parramatta	Brisbane	1,276,000​
Cricket	Ashes	T2 D5 S1	1,249,000​
AFL	Carlton	Geelong	1,240,000​
AFL	Richmond	Geelong	1,231,000​
AFL	Brisbane	Collingwood	1,230,000​
AFL	Collingwood	Geelong	1,230,000​
NRL	Brisbane	Melbourne	1,229,000​
NRL	Parramatta	Penrith	1,223,000​
AFL	Carlton	Brisbane	1,219,000​
NRL	South Sydney	Sydney	1,216,000​
AFL	St Kilda	Port Adelaide	1,208,000​
NRL	Penrith	Brisbane	1,200,000​
Cricket	Ashes	T2 D2 S1	1,192,000​
AFL	Melbourne	Carlton	1,190,000​
Cricket	Ashes	T5 D5 S2	1,187,000​
Cricket	Ashes	T3 D2 S1	1,185,000​
NRL	Dolphins	Sydney	1,183,000​
Cricket	Ashes	T3 D4 S1	1,182,000​
NRL	North Queensland	Dolphins	1,180,000​
NRL	Penrith	South Sydney	1,178,000​
NRL	Dolphins	South Sydney	1,178,000​
AFL	Adelaide	Carlton	1,172,000​
NRL	Brisbane	South Sydney	1,169,000​
AFL	Essendon	Richmond	1,168,000​
NRL	Warriors	Newcastle	1,165,000​
NRL	Manly	Brisbane	1,162,000​
NRL	Dolphins	St George	1,161,000​
AFL	Port Adelaide	Geelong	1,161,000​
NRL	Sydney	South Sydney	1,158,000​
Cricket	Ashes	T3 D1 S1	1,148,000​
NRL	Manly	Melbourne	1,134,000​
NRL	Manly	Parramatta	1,133,000​
AFL	Western Bulldogs	Brisbane	1,120,000​
AFL	Brisbane	Melbourne	1,118,000​
AFL	Carlton	Melbourne	1,118,000​
NRL	Cronulla	Sydney	1,117,000​
NRL	Brisbane	North Queensland	1,109,000​
AFL	Collingwood	Carlton	1,103,000​
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[titoelcolombiano]

They also hit a similar peak in 2007, and dropped off to a combo of form and cannibalistion by the new Giants.

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The raw ratings arent everything. The classic remains the misinterpretation of average viewership, completely missing the time component that assists in that determination, and thereby completely misconstruing the difference in total viewership in the AU markets.


They arent everything and my site isnt devoted to it - just a big part. also finances and crowds and sponsors and memberships.

Your graph highlights massive growth coinciding with the SL war and then stagnation with small ups and downs based on form but a definite ceiling

 

[titoelcolombiano]

What “other” premiership years

2005 and 2012 obviously

 

[The_Wookie]

Your graph highlights massive growth coinciding with the SL war and then stagnation with small ups and downs based on form but a definite ceiling

dude they hit the same peak in 2007 they hit in 1996. its not just small "ups and downs"

 

[titoelcolombiano]

dude they hit the same peak in 2007 they hit in 1996. its not just small "ups and downs"

Yes, but why didn't they go past the previous peak? No growth it 11 years it seems

 

[Wb1234]

Yes, but why didn't they go past the previous peak? No growth it 11 years it seems

Afl needs its teams in nsw and qld to do well or the fans just don’t hang around

the collapse in lions crowds and attendances after they were given 3 straight premierships was an eye opener

if the swans ever have a lean patch it will be interesting to see what happens to their crowds and finances

billions spent in nsw and qld and yet they rank last in many categories

 

[Ralphy Twanger]

2005 and 2012 obviously

For the Swans?

 

[Captain Apollo]

I'm glad you mentioned the years prior to 1997 as part of the Super League era. People forget that the legal fighting even before the Super League kicked off was impacting the sports scene in NSW and QLD. Every day there were reports in the print and television that helped drive people away.

However, there young adults today who weren't even alive when Super League existed. Anyone under 35 is essentially unaffected by it. The generation most impacted by Super League are now in their 60s and 70s. So essentially the game is almost fully recovered.

Ahem. Some of us are only in their 50s, thank you very much

 

[The_Wookie]

Yes, but why didn't they go past the previous peak? No growth it 11 years it seems

Dude as mentioned, its likely support was somewhat cannibalised by the Giants introduction. Happened in Queensland with the Suns too

 

[Perth Red]

Are people really saying 25k Sydney active rl fans abandoned the game 25 years ago and have stayed loyal and gone to every swans game for the Last 25 years? then out of nowhere 15k afl fans appeared in sydney to follow gws? But there has been no growth for afl in sydney? That makes zero sense.

 

[Wb1234]

Are people really saying 25k Sydney active rl fans abandoned the game 25 years ago and have stayed loyal and gone to every swans game for the Last 25 years? then out of nowhere 15k afl fans appeared in sydney to follow gws? But there has been no growth for afl in sydney? That makes zero sense.

How many gws fans ?
Wtf

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Dude as mentioned, its likely support was somewhat cannibalised by the Giants introduction. Happened in Queensland with the Suns too

Unlikely, GC and Brisbane are separate markets for starters. What's more likely is that there is a definite ceiling to the support as they weren't raising that ceiling even before the Giants / Suns came in

 

[The_Wookie]

Unlikely, GC and Brisbane are separate markets for starters.

Its really not that simple. For a start AFL fans arent afraid of travel, and Brisbane were founded in Cararra.
And I said Queensland in any case.

What's more likely is that there is a definite ceiling to the support as they weren't raising that ceiling even before the Giants / Suns came in

I dont agree with your conclusion, but i dont particularly care either.

 

[RL The greatest game]

How many gws fans ?
Wtf

The midgets can hardly fill half their stadium despite the 1,000's of freebies they give out for home games.
It would be interesting to find out the truth of how many people pay to watch the Midgets. I would suggest that mostly visiting fans as you would have to be a fool to pay to watch the midgets in you lived in Sydney