2023 TV/Fox/Streaming Ratings

[Perth Red]

cough Kogorah 8,600, cough

 

[Wb1234]

cough Kogorah 8,600, cough

Kogarah crowd is accurate

thanks for missing the point about afl dishonesty

 

[Perth Red]

Kogarah crowd is accurate

thanks for missing the point about afl dishonesty

you counted them personally? lol.
Anyway what has your constant AFL postings got to do with NRL tv ratings? We have a fight club section for your sht.

 

[Vibing]

cough Kogorah 8,600, cough

must defend fumbles and derps
must defend fumbles and derps
must defend fumbles and derps
must defend fumbles and derps

 

[Wb1234]

you counted them personally? lol.
Anyway what has your constant AFL postings got to do with NRL tv ratings? We have a fight club section for your sht.

You posted about the afl tv deal then I responded you dope

afl figures are rubbery not to be trusted

 

[Iamback]

no
their deal is worth 4.5 Billion over 7 years , so they get 643 mill PA from 2025
Our deal is worth 2 billion ..odd.. over 5 years , deal ending in 2027
they're the hard numbers
our deal should have been in the vicinity of 2.8 Bill to be in line with their increase

Correct $4.5b is total but the amount each year escalates

Like a x player signs a deal for $1.2m for 3 years, That is never the same every year.

The contract is still a $1.2m deal. That is same here.

Do you think Camera men, producers etc will earn in 2031 what they earn now?

That is why deals like this increase to cover such things

 

[Perth Red]

Correct $4.5b is total but the amount each year escalates

Like a x player signs a deal for $1.2m for 3 years, That is never the same every year.

The contract is still a $1.2m deal. That is same here.

Do you think Camera men, producers etc will earn in 2031 what they earn now?

That is why deals like this increase to cover such things

There are 3 cash figures
The total value of deal
the yearly avg over period of the deal
the actual yearly payment
As said, a few years ago accounting methods changed for reporting tv deals and they now start lower than avg, grow by 2-3% a year and by the end of the period are above avg amount but overall equal to total amount. This is for cash only, Contra amount seems to be generally consistent year on year

so for us with a 5 year $2bill deal worth around $370mill a year cash avg it will be around (on 2% shift)
2023 $355.5mill
2024 $362.5mill
2025 $370mill
2026 $377.4mill
2027 $385mill

For them on a cash basis of $550mill cash avg a year over 7 years it will be somewhere in the region of (2% shift)

2025 $519mill
2026 $529 mill
2027 $539.2mill
2028 $550mill
2029 $561mill
2030 $572.2mill
2031 $583.6mill

 

[Vibing]

Correct $4.5b is total but the amount each year escalates

Like a x player signs a deal for $1.2m for 3 years, That is never the same every year.

The contract is still a $1.2m deal. That is same here.

Do you think Camera men, producers etc will earn in 2031 what they earn now?

That is why deals like this increase to cover such things

then its semantics you're arguing

Their deal averaged out over 7 years , has disproportionately increased against ours & the content level is not the reason , because it was pretty much the same in the old deal.

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

Kogarah crowd is accurate

thanks for missing the point about afl dishonesty

Lol as if he would say anything negative about his beloved sport .
all he does is praise & defend It.

 

[Perth Red]

Comparing tv deals (though the numbers are best guesses and presuming nothing changes till end of respective deals) and some radio rights value is in our bucket

2025 $370mil v $519mill
2026 $377.4mill v $529mill
2027 $385mill v $539.2mill

A difference of $455mill over 3 years! If the last tv deal had played out without covid in 5 years (2017-2022) we would have only had a $175mill gap!!

Considering we had more content to sell, a new club in a sought after market, closed down our digital media at the behest of our tv partners etc and they offered nothing different to 2017 how anyone can argue it is anything other than a disastrously poor deal is still beyond me. Consider the last deal the cash gap was around $35mill cash a year!

 

[Pneuma]

Lol as if he would say anything negative about his beloved sport .
all he does is praise & defend It.

He is afls greatest advocate and Gil McLachlan’s live child.

 

[Iamback]

then its semantics you're arguing

Their deal averaged out over 7 years , has disproportionately increased against ours & the content level is not the reason , because it was pretty much the same in the old deal.

Because ours runs out in 2027, Of course it won't increase as much. The new deal though will be different

You are also forgetting that the $4.5b includes Telstra money.

This is internet rights that was $300m over 5 years last time. At that same rate that is $400m there.

Also includes unspecified Marvel Stadium upgrades. All we know is Vic Govt is putting in $250m.

Not unrealistic for that to a 50/50 split between the 2.

So you take the $650-$700m out of the $4.5b. Gets you very close to the rumour $550m a year from TV.

That is from 9 games. A figure some people on here ( me included ) think that the next deal with the 9th game can get.

 

[Wb1234]

He is afls greatest advocate and Gil McLachlan’s live child.

It’s funny I’ve shown him links about gill saying afl would be number one in qld in a few years or how the giants lie about crowds yet he just ignored them and quotes gillon word for word

the safest aasuntion to make is afl is full of crap unless concrete evidence is shown otherwise

 

[Pneuma]

It’s funny I’ve shown him links about gill saying afl would be number one in qld in a few years or how the giants lie about crowds yet he just ignored them and quotes gillon word for word

the safest aasuntion to make is afl is full of crap unless concrete evidence is shown otherwise

He’s a troll. I am sure he wasn’t always but he clearly is now. Lots of spite there.

 

[Wb1234]

He’s a troll. I am sure he wasn’t always but he clearly is now. Lots of spite there.

Yeh just got used to trolling over 20 years and can’t help himself now

 

[Vibing]

Because ours runs out in 2027, Of course it won't increase as much.

That doesn't account for the increase difference of 6% to 55%
maybe a bit of it , not a huge discrepancy like that though.

 

[Vibing]

NRL north of a million again last night with some estimates & about a 200K win over the aflol

Thursday 30 March 2023 | TV Tonight

1 SEVEN NEWS 779,000 2 SEVEN NEWS AT 6.30 760,000 3 NINE NEWS 660,000 4 NINE NEWS 6:30 638,000 5 ABC NEWS 520,000

tvtonight.com.au

 

[The_Wookie]

 

[Iamback]

That doesn't account for the increase difference of 6% to 55%
maybe a bit of it , not a huge discrepancy like that though.

Because you have included the $600-$700m that is Telstra in that. The $4.5b includes that.

The actual TV part is $3.8b or something. Ave of $550m a season

Which is likely where NRL starts in 2028 ( Assuming NRLW expands and the 9th game comes in as planned).

 

[Wb1234]

Because you have included the $600-$700m that is Telstra in that. The $4.5b includes that.

The actual TV part is $3.8b or something. Ave of $550m a season

Which is likely where NRL starts in 2028 ( Assuming NRLW expands and the 9th game comes in as planned).

The actual excluding Telstra is 3 billion