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2024 Crowd Watch

Vee

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Does anyone have any theories why crowds have grown so quickly?

Games are better to watch live with the 6 again rule, games are more open. Pre 6 again games had fewer ' get out of your seat' moments.

Larger crowds lead to fomo, seeing a packed stadium makes people want to attend.

Besides those 2, I'm struggling to think why crowds have risen so quickly ?
My question is how crowds are peaking in a cost-of-living crisis.

I guess it points to the increasing difference btw the Haves and the Have-nots.
 

Pantherjim.

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Gee, f*cking huge crowd at Accor watching two foundation NRL clubs play their last game of the regular season isn’t it? You couldn’t possibly fit anymore people in there if you tried…
 
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Contrary to (anticipated) popular opinion, I think this crowd (~20k) has landed in the "passable" range for the following reasons:
1. This game is being held at Accor Stadium and not Allianz Stadium
2. The South Sydney faithful (inc me) have clocked out of Accor Stadium
3. South Sydney was third last on the ladder coming into this game
4. The last time these two teams played, South Sydney lost 48-6
 

Cumberland Throw

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Multi factorial growth
better stadiums for some
success for others
better membership programs for some
dolphins admission
news ltd not bagging the game at every opportunity
nrl marketing doing a better job
talk of More expansion creating positive vibes
love it or hate it some players being hyped into superstars (gets the kids interested)

long may it continue, so close to Dave smiths 20k avg vision at long last!

ps I do think there is a post covid bounce. For example The live music and comedy venues I go to are crammed, much more packed than pre covid. Considering we are supposed to be in a cost of living crisis people seem to be willing to spend on getting out the house at the moment.
Post covid world wide crowds have jumped ..not just nrl
 
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Your point about the merch is a good one … but I think you have been headline reading if you honestly believe the Maggies and Balmain are “uncoupling “…

WT are last for the third year in a row … yet have sold out their last game of the season … and others throughout the year … is this something you think they ( both entities and the NRL) should be effing around with ?
The subject of possible traction for a Tigers NRL franchise in SEQ was in question form.

If Campbelltown is the future of Wests, would local support be affected by the choice of Magpies over Tigers?

Likewise, whether "The Tigers" are based in South-East Queensland or South-West Sydney may be of little consequence to those fans who attend a few games each year in their Balmain jerseys. Either way, this is patently no longer the same club for whom Laurie Nichols used to shadowbox.
 
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Balmain have nothing. No money, no prospects, nothing. If they leave wests they're dead in the water.
Isn't this precisely the point though?

The Balmain component of the merged entity is more or less nominal. Other than history, all they bring is the name "Tigers". Which seamlessly blends with the identity of Brisbane Easts. Who just happen to be the club best placed to play an integral role in creating the next NRL franchise in SEQ.
 

BuffaloRules

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The subject of possible traction for a Tigers NRL franchise in SEQ was in question form.

If Campbelltown is the future of Wests, would local support be affected by the choice of Magpies over Tigers?

I can only offer an opinion …The Magpies have not played in the top comp for 25 years now… so you would need to be 35 at the youngest to have been a fan of the old Magpies when they were around …. There is a sizeable part of the fan base that have only known the Wests Tigers …not the Magpies

Isn't this precisely the point though?

The Balmain component of the merged entity is more or less nominal. Other than history, all they bring is the name "Tigers". Which seamlessly blends with the identity of Brisbane Easts. Who just happen to be the club best placed to play an integral role in creating the next NRL franchise in SEQ.
Balmain bring there own fans ..so it’s more than just a name that they offer …. I don’t know if they just transition over to following the Brisbane Easts Tigers who play their games 1,000km away…. I think you would find that a lot would give the game away…
 
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Balmain bring there own fans ..so it’s more than just a name that they offer …. I don’t know if they just transition over to following the Brisbane Easts Tigers who play their games 1,000km away…. I think you would find that a lot would give the game away…
This is a mirror image of North Sydney supporters re the proposals for Western Bears.

The decoupling scenario implies Wests are already minded to heavily favour the Macarthur Region in all their future plans and marketing. Disenchanted Balmain fans might "give the game away" anyway.

Whatever the final look of a 20-team comp, any existing or amended rationalisation from NSWRL inevitably entails the hope that fans will embrace changing allegiances over time.
 
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Does anyone have any theories why crowds have grown so quickly?
I suggested on last year's crowd thread that increases in various forms of RL participation was one factor feeding through into higher attendances.

Every new participant in contact or non-contact forms of the game has a circle of family and friends. All of whom become potential NRL attendees.

PVL and Abdo clearly see participation as central to growing a fanbase. As do AFL. Hence the money they splurge on Auskick in NSW and QLD.

Whenever this argument is put, someone usually cites Soccer as rebuttal. Difference there is the domestic comp lacks cachet. Far more fashionable for junior Soccer players in Oz to follow a European league.

The crowds and ratings for the Matildas demonstrate what can happen when a Soccer tournament is perceived as prestigious. That groundswell of support would be unlikely without long-standing high rates of participation.
 

BuffaloRules

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This is a mirror image of North Sydney supporters re the proposals for Western Bears.

The decoupling scenario implies Wests are already minded to heavily favour the Macarthur Region in all their future plans and marketing. Disenchanted Balmain fans might "give the game away" anyway.

Whatever the final look of a 20-team comp, any existing or amended rationalisation from NSWRL inevitably entails the hope that fans will embrace changing allegiances over time.

i gotta feeling you are reading more into the “decoupling” then what is really there… I note you ignored my point about a lot of Wests fans only knowing the Wests Tigers …who says that they want to change ?
 
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Final home crowd averages so far - via RLP (netural games excluded)

Brisbane39,873
Dolphins23,933
Warriors23,758
Sydney22,275
Melbourne19,849
North Qld19,281
Parramatta18,836
Gold Coast16,241
Souths14,511
Canberra13,958
Wests Tigers12,653
Cronulla11,712


One game left:

Newcastle22,017
Canterbury21,160
Penrith19,295
Manly16,372
St Geo Illa15,386
 

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