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2024 NRL GRAND FINAL: Penrith v Melbourne Oct 6th

TheParraboy

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There were 4 decisions in that game that i shake my head.

Dunster scores and pass was called forward from Gutho. No one went to look back at it and when you look at the pass in fast motion it went out of the hands backwards.

Will Penisini & Mitchell Moses both get dragged back when Fergo makes a linebreak with 15 mins to go. Wtf was the touchie and Klein looking at. There was least one professional foul in that play.

With 3 mins to go Gutho got tackled near the sideline and the ball was stripped as he was on the ground being tackled but Klein called play on. Sterlo was bemused its either a knock on or a penalty.

Mitch Kenny rolled his ankle 20m behind the play oh lets just the stop the game so Penrith can get a break while were on the attack.



When you have Ferguson milk a penalty and then get up and celebrate like a pork chop as soon as the whistle was blown. Gutho/Moses waving their hands at everything? Wonder if those things sub consciously had affected ref decisions afterwards?

Despite those decisions, we should have won the game IMO. We had plenty of opportunity to do so, same as the Cows did in the 2022 prelim despite us getting a blatant forward pass try that got us over the line.

Point being, we need to get better in what we can control, we do that then decisions like those above wont matter or dont get to happen.

As the great Peter Sterling always says . The great teams create their own luck. I think all of us on here can acknowledge we are far from great
 

JokerEel

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It gives me the squirts that these two shithead clubs go into battle for the GF. That said, they are so infront of anyone else it is embarrassing. I am concerned at how unequal the comp has become. The NRL's adminstration of the salary cap has been deplorable.

Not sure it's a salary cap issue (maybe your taking the piss with this comment)..

Agree with these 2 sides making the GF hate that they are there again probably why most of us fans are pissed with BA as we were there 2 years ago and then it all went to shit we should be there!!!!
 

Gary Gutful

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Not sure it's a salary cap issue (maybe your taking the piss with this comment)..

Agree with these 2 sides making the GF hate that they are there again probably why most of us fans are pissed with BA as we were there 2 years ago and then it all went to shit we should be there!!!!
The Salary Cap was meant to even out the competition. It more uneven than it has been for decades.
 

JokerEel

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The Salary Cap was meant to even out the competition. It more uneven than it has been for decades.

But the Panthers and Storm squads have been effected by the cap the most over the past few seasons.

Coaching and planning is why these 2 sides have been great for so long.

Roosters are a joke with the cap.. signed cheese and Young with the players they already had,but they didn't make it and won't for a while now.
 

hineyrulz

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The Salary Cap was meant to even out the competition. It more uneven than it has been for decades.
That’s a lie that the NRL want us to believe, the cap was brought in to stop clubs from over spending and going broke.

The NRL honestly don’t care if teams are cheating the cap they just dont want to know about it. Shows how incompetent the clowns we had running the club, some of these idiots want to have another crack heaven help us if they get back in. Might be time to follow lawn bowls or darts ffs!!
 

Gronk

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That’s a lie that the NRL want us to believe, the cap was brought in to stop clubs from over spending and going broke.

The NRL honestly don’t care if teams are cheating the cap they just dont want to know about it. Shows how incompetent the clowns we had running the club, some of these idiots want to have another crack heaven help us if they get back in. Might be time to follow lawn bowls or darts ffs!!

I agree that the policing of the cap is impossibly hard, however not with the conspiracy theory that they don’t care.
 

hineyrulz

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I agree that the policing of the cap is impossibly hard, however not with the conspiracy theory that they don’t care.
The rumour is they knew about the Storm in mid 09, it wasn’t until they then tried to sign Mason in early 2010 they decided to do something. You really think the NRL want to find rampant cheating that blows their whole cap and Comp to bits??? The only time anyone has been caught has been when they have been dobbed in.

They aren’t looking which means they only care when they have no other choice.
 

King-Gutho94

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I agree that the policing of the cap is impossibly hard, however not with the conspiracy theory that they don’t care.
I think that they would prefer to not look through the peep hole so to speak as long as the media or a whistleblower doesn't get wind of anything when it comes to the salary cap.

Because it is more damaging to the game when a side has to be stripped of its points and caught cheating the cap.

It basically ruins the integrity of the whole competition and gives the year an asterisk when a team rubbed out of the comp.

The only time there have been teams caught or an investigation is if a disgruntled ex employee & whistleblower shoots there mouth off.

The NRL audits are a waste of time in 30 years what have the NRL audits uncovered a puff of dust.

The competition i would say right now is more uneven then ever has been before. In the 2000s if you came bottom 3 or 4 you only needed 1 or 2 years to be back in the top 4 if you were smart with recruitment.

Now rebuilds take 6-7 years because you have to pay a GST on the cap with recruitment for being a bottom four side that top 4 sides dont pay.

I think most fans are genuinely getting bored with the same teams being up the top and hence its coincided with the most boring finals series in history of my life.

Outside of the Dogs/Manly semi final the rest of them have been garbage.
 

King-Gutho94

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But the Panthers and Storm squads have been effected by the cap the most over the past few seasons.

Coaching and planning is why these 2 sides have been great for so long.

Roosters are a joke with the cap.. signed cheese and Young with the players they already had,but they didn't make it and won't for a while now.
Melbourne are like Broncos

One team town with plenty of corporate support has its advantages that a lot of Sydney teams dont get.

Yes they are run well and coached by probably the 2nd or 3rd greatest coach of all-time depending on what order you want to rank Gibson, Bennett, Bellamy.

There a lot of hidden advantages of playing in Melbourne that we don't even think about.
 

Black Panther

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The Salary Cap was meant to even out the competition. It more uneven than it has been for decades.
Ask Ivan Cleary how the Salary Cap is working. You haven’t noticed the 20+ players we have lost since our first GF win. Not just the amount of players, but the quality of players too.

Its up to each team to work out who to keep as a priority for them.
 

Gronk

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The rumour is they knew about the Storm in mid 09, it wasn’t until they then tried to sign Mason in early 2010 they decided to do something. You really think the NRL want to find rampant cheating that blows their whole cap and Comp to bits??? The only time anyone has been caught has been when they have been dobbed in.

They aren’t looking which means they only care when they have no other choice.
I think you are looking at it superficially through a lense of cynicism. All sporting codes that attempt to police a salary cap are in the same boat. Even if the NRL had access to player tax returns, there are ways to skirt around it.

Uncle Nick coukd easily get a distant unrelated company to pay money into a trustee company that I nominate. Without the Trust Deed, you would not know that I am a beneficiary of the trust and have the right to filter funds from it. More simply, Uncle Nick could just pay off my mortgage or even buy me a holiday house. FFS Crystal Pools could just turn up at my house in Coogee with Complying Development Approval and put in a $300,000 pool.

At best, the NRL can only manage the cap with the threat that if a whistleblower comes forward, like they did with us, then you’re f**ked.

Is it any different with other codes that attempt to maintain a salary cap ? In all seriousness, you can only be cynical if other codes are able to successfully manage their caps with 100% scrutiny and they can go about their business without allegations of rorting.
 
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