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2024 Panthers

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He’s not a Spencer replacement. We need to move on from the myth that was Spencer. For all the potential he never quite delivered. Maybe playing for the benchmark of the competition will be his making I don’t know but for the most part he was either under used with us or just not worthy of more minutes.
Happy to argue that the style needs to evolve to reflect changing personnel (as has happened consistently over the past three years) and I don’t think we need a Spencer clone. But

The suggestion though that Spencer didn’t deliver is way off. Yes he can get better (and keeping his ferocity while playing more minutes will be a challenge) but to suggest he is a myth is just sour grapes. This is a three time premiership winner, who has represented his country and been 19th man for his state. He has also bled for our jersey, he came back pretty quick this year after a pretty gruesome injury.
 

Iamback

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He’s not a Spencer replacement. We need to move on from the myth that was Spencer. For all the potential he never quite delivered. Maybe playing for the benchmark of the competition will be his making I don’t know but for the most part he was either under used with us or just not worthy of more minutes.

No where did I say we need a like for like.

3 props are locked in. How much game time would you give them?

Fish 50mins
Moses 50 mins
Lindsay same.

That leaves you 30 mins at most, That is if Ivan doesn't play Kenny some mins in the middle.

That doesn't suit a worker forward, I think that role gets shared around and find what is best for that small stint
 

Kilkenny

Coach
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Happy to argue that the style needs to evolve to reflect changing personnel (as has happened consistently over the past three years) and I don’t think we need a Spencer clone. But

The suggestion though that Spencer didn’t deliver is way off. Yes he can get better (and keeping his ferocity while playing more minutes will be a challenge) but to suggest he is a myth is just sour grapes. This is a three time premiership winner, who has represented his country and been 19th man for his state. He has also bled for our jersey, he came back pretty quick this year after a pretty gruesome injury.
The point I simply make is Spencer was a limited minute player when he burst on the scene and never really moved beyond that.

He didn’t deliver to demand 40-50 minutes and remained an impact 20-25 minute player. Half a dozen runs for 50-60 metres and a handful of tackles when he should have been able to deliver much more.

Huge potential but just didn’t deliver consistently or often enough.
 

Kilkenny

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No where did I say we need a like for like.

3 props are locked in. How much game time would you give them?

Fish 50mins
Moses 50 mins
Lindsay same.

That leaves you 30 mins at most, That is if Ivan doesn't play Kenny some mins in the middle.

That doesn't suit a worker forward, I think that role gets shared around and find what is best for that small stint
I didn’t say you did.

Im simply suggesting Liam Henry is good enough to make a statement in 2024 and just might be good enough to become are forward leader from 2025 and beyond.
 

maple_69

Bench
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I definitely think he’ll get a good bag of games this year. Injuries and rep duties will open opportunities if nothing else but as always, Ivan will rotate through his options for a good portion of the season.

Whether he can do what Smith did and adapt his big motor game to an impact bench role I think will define whether he fits into the first 17. He’s got elite starting middle written all over him.
 

Aliceinwonderland

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I definitely think he’ll get a good bag of games this year. Injuries and rep duties will open opportunities if nothing else but as always, Ivan will rotate through his options for a good portion of the season.

Whether he can do what Smith did and adapt his big motor game to an impact bench role I think will define whether he fits into the first 17. He’s got elite starting middle written all over him.

I always love the off season, and beginning of a new season. Because it will always bring great surprises.

This year Kenny shocked me in a good way, with what he was able to produce on the field. Hits like a truck, service improving each and every week. Looking forward to see how Sommerton goes.

Sunvia on the wing, didn't miss a beat after May did his ACL. Fascinated to see how he goes in 24, and to see if May can transitition to centre.

How Liam Henry goes when brought in on the bench (or does he start)

It's exciting stuff.
 
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Can the next man-up keep Penrith purring?
Losing key players is nothing new to Penrith and so far it hasn’t impacted their ability to be the best side in the NRL. Conventional wisdom says that doubting the Panthers’ ability to keep calm and carry on is foolish, but they’ll have their work cut out for them replacing a couple of the players who left the building following their third-straight grand final victory last month. Stephen Crichton has been a huge part of their success and last season he was exceptional, combining brilliant attacking ability with some excellent defence out wide, both of which were on full display in the grand final when he made several plays that kept his side’s unlikely comeback alive. Ivan Cleary also loses the services of Spencer Leniu who has for some time now been arguably the best specialist interchange middle in the NRL, bringing impact and complimenting the starters perfectly. Talent like Crichton and Leniu doesn't grow on trees and while Penrith will be backing themselves to replace them, it won’t be easy.

Source NRL.com.
 
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Penrith Panthers can confirm the NRL squad for the 2024 season and beyond.

Ativalu Lisati2024
Brad Schneider20242025
Brian To’o2024202520262027
Daine Laurie2024
Dylan Edwards20242025202620272028
Harrison Hassett20242025
Isaah Yeo2024202520262027
Izack Tago20242025
Jack Cole202420252026
James Fisher-Harris202420252026
Jarome Luai2024
Jesse McLean202420252026
Liam Henry202420252026
Liam Martin2024202520262027
Lindsay Smith202420252026
Luke Garner2024
Matt Eisenhuth2024
Mavrik Geyer20242025
Mitch Kenny2024
Moses Leota2024202520262027
Nathan Cleary2024202520262027
Paul Alamoti2024
Scott Sorensen202420252026
Soni Luke20242025
Sunia Turuva2024
Taylan May2024
Tyrone Peachey2024
Zac Hosking2024
Isaiah IongiDev.2025
Luke SommertonDev.
Preston RikiDev.
Riley PriceDev.2025
 

Sime_11

Juniors
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the scary thing will be our team's reaction when they eventually come up short - that following pre-season will be very intense and that following season should be fun as a fan :p
 

Whino

Bench
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Apart from the GF/Rep. players when does Pre Season start?


November 22: Penrith Panthers


The reigning NRL premiers start their pre-season on November 22. Daine Laurie, Riley Price and Paul Alamoti will be three players that will be back then, while all international representatives won't return until the start of the new year - giving them an extended break.


The list of international players is as follows: Dylan Edwards, Liam Martin, Isaah Yeo, James Fisher-Harris, Moses Leota, Spencer Leniu, Izack Tago, Brian To'o and Sunia Turuva. Playmaking duo Jarome Luai and Nathan Cleary will also likely return in the new year.
 
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November 22: Penrith Panthers


The reigning NRL premiers start their pre-season on November 22. Daine Laurie, Riley Price and Paul Alamoti will be three players that will be back then, while all international representatives won't return until the start of the new year - giving them an extended break.


The list of international players is as follows: Dylan Edwards, Liam Martin, Isaah Yeo, James Fisher-Harris, Moses Leota, Spencer Leniu, Izack Tago, Brian To'o and Sunia Turuva. Playmaking duo Jarome Luai and Nathan Cleary will also likely return in the new year.
Leniu isn't a Panther now.
 

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