2024 Squad List

[FlickFlano]

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[Auntie.Gerald]

The Illawarra teenagers hoping to shine as Steelers rep season begins

There'll be plenty of keen eyes taking in the young talent on show when the Steelers junior representative...

www.illawarramercury.com.au

Does anyone know much about Hamish Stewart?

A lock
Contracted till 2027

A lot of interest from other clubs when he signed on for his extension to 2027 (PO)

NRL top30 2025

2024 NRL Signings Tracker: Alamoti locked in until 2027; Lucas extends at Knights

Classy centre Paul Alamoti has been rewarded for a stunning season at Penrith with a contract extension through to the end of 2027 while the Knights have re-signed young gun Dylan Lucas.

www.nrl.com

 

[Saints Forever]

Complete overhaul coming in 2025

15-17 players will either leave or not be resigned

 

[Parko1310]

Complete overhaul coming in 2025

15-17 players will either leave or not be resigned

Mail or guessing?

 

[FlickFlano]

Go the Dragons

 

[TheRev]

o There are 3 that we tried and failed to move on: Turner, MaxF, BMM
o MMolo has to have a big year with the young crew coming through..
o FMolo was on origin money and probably due for a decrease.
o Bird will be close to the end
o Hunt probably moves on
o Ramsey & Amone out
o Su'a and Suli may choose to leave..
o Mulheissen I dunno about what we do with him..
o Coric is on a knifes edge also in terms if he's going to make it

So thats 12 or 13, and there could be others we dont want to sign who's contracts are starting to finish up.

We just desperately need to get some respect back into the club in 2024 to get recruitment firing, and hopefully the current playing group get behind Flanno and want to stay put.. cause right now our only likely signings are some of our development players getting upgrades.

 

[Desperate Dragon]

Can anyone post an up to date list of the players on T&T contracts so far for 2024??
Think someone posted the full list per club was in the Daily Telegraph recently.

 

[FlickFlano]

Supplementary
Corey Ackers
Josh Coric
Dylan Egan
Connor Muhleisen
Cody Ramsey (if the deal goes through)
Jackson Shereb
Hamish Stewart


Train/Trial
Hayden Buchanan
Lyhkan King-Togia
Finau Latu
Jett Liu
Loko Pasifiki Tonga
Kade Reed
Nick Tsougranis
Jacob Webster


I don't know about Haele Finau or Aaron Johnson

 

[Dragon set in stone.]

Can some one please explain what is the difference with A Supplementary player and a train and trail .Can they both play first grade at any stage of the season .Thanks

 

[Parko1310]

Can some one please explain what is the difference with A Supplementary player and a train and trail .Can they both play first grade at any stage of the season .Thanks

Supp players is the new term for the old "development" players. Rather than only being able to play from round 10 onwards, supplementary players can now play from round 1. Maximum of 6 players can be on this list. Train and trial players are a level below this, and get paid about $1200 a week whilst they train with the first grade squad. Used to not be able to play NRL at all but can now play from round 11 onwards.

 

[FlickFlano]

I thought the RLPA agreement increased supp list to 10 not 6 or was that one of the things that was knocked on the head in negotiations.

If you are correct on 6 then if Ramsey is bumped back into that list you may find one of the others promoted to top 30. Muhl if we dont get another hooker ASAP?

 

[OneEyedDragon]

I read a while ago that with the new designations and rules, that, if everyone is fit, the coach basically has a squad of 36 players to choose from. I guess that means more young players might get a look in.

 

[Parko1310]

I thought the RLPA agreement increased supp list to 10 not 6 or was that one of the things that was knocked on the head in negotiations.

If you are correct on 6 then if Ramsey is bumped back into that list you may find one of the others promoted to top 30. Muhl if we dont get another hooker ASAP?

I don't think the plan is to put Ramsey on any sort of playing contract, he'll technically just be an employee of the club over the next two seasons at least.

 

[Dragon David]

Supp players is the new term for the old "development" players. Rather than only being able to play from round 10 onwards, supplementary players can now play from round 1. Maximum of 6 players can be on this list. Train and trial players are a level below this, and get paid about $1200 a week whilst they train with the first grade squad. Used to not be able to play NRL at all but can now play from round 11 onwards.

Thanks for the post Parko.

 

[Dragon set in stone.]

Supp players is the new term for the old "development" players. Rather than only being able to play from round 10 onwards, supplementary players can now play from round 1. Maximum of 6 players can be on this list. Train and trial players are a level below this, and get paid about $1200 a week whilst they train with the first grade squad. Used to not be able to play NRL at all but can now play from round 11 onwards. Thank you Parko .

 

[TheRev]

Yep Ramsey would be paid but not on a contract is my understanding, but if he ever did get back to playing, we would have to lose someone to fit him in.. which is obvious but I think helps to articulate it when convincing the NRL.

I'm hoping the NRL will resolve this quickly, they took was it 4 months+ last year and it destroyed any chance of us finding a replacement.. but there was no blowback on them (which is I assume what they were scared of), and I think everyone has sympathy for the situation now given its rolling into a second year.

 

[Mojo]

Yep Ramsey would be paid but not on a contract is my understanding, but if he ever did get back to playing, we would have to lose someone to fit him in.. which is obvious but I think helps to articulate it when convincing the NRL.

I'm hoping the NRL will resolve this quickly, they took was it 4 months+ last year and it destroyed any chance of us finding a replacement.. but there was no blowback on them (which is I assume what they were scared of), and I think everyone has sympathy for the situation now given its rolling into a second year.

Excuse my ignorance but why can't Saints simply employ Ramsey - not as a player? If and when he's healthy enough to play again why couldn't they give him a contract as a player at that future time? The poor guy's crook. We just want to pay him a living wage and we hope his health is eventually restored. Seems a lot of unnecessary dicking around IMO.

 

[FlickFlano]

It is really around ensuring the integrity of the salary cap and stop potential rorting.
I know in this case it is not a rort but any precedent creates unintended consequences.

He has a top 30 contract in place which has some kind of relevance for our roster management. Cancelling that contract before it is completed and then paying him outside the cap could be rorted.
As a rostered player, he also has access to rights/support as part of that - so health cover/rehab etc could all be covered by insurances if he is maintained within a playing roster somewhere.

 

[The Word]

The additional complication is that medical retirement usually requires the player to obtain medical advice that he will never be able to play again, which is why clubs are allowed to cancel the contract. In this case we are actually allowing him the opportunity to return to the playing field. Under normal circumstances this would not be allowed. Therefore the club and the NRL and basically "breaking the rules" in order to put Cody in the best possible position. So it's a complicated legal precedent that's being created hence the need for care in documenting why it has / will be allowed in this circumstance.

 

[AyiosYiorgos]

Clubs don't cancel contracts when players are medically retired, they're just not counted in the Salary Cap, players get paid out either by club or insurance, the NRL has guidelines around medical retirement BUT look at all cases on an individual basis and make a decision based on whats best for the player/club/game and they "supposedly "make sure its not a rort, every policy the NRL has isn't a hard and fast rule, they can "break the rules" when required.
Dragons are trying to make sure that Cody get the best possible medical help, by keeping him on for another 2 years this will help him out and the NRL know this isnt a rort by us, they also know its very highly unlikely he will ever play first grade again, this is just looking after his welfare and mental health as well, hopefully we do something like the West Tigers did with Simon Dwyer and keep him on in some capacity if he can never play again..