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Fangs

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Meatloaf was better although he looked like every Parra supporter. Not being a smart ass but 1991 GF started at 3 pm remember the day clearly.

I was 18 months old so I remember nothing clearly. But I've watched that grand final more than any other. Yes even the pre-game entertainment...I believe it was an Elvis impersonator?

3.00pm it is then. Someone get on to PVL about it.
 

Alintheeast

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Didn’t this post/article also appear last year after the Canberra loss. Fox journos don’t use AI they just rehash previous stuff.
 
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It wasn’t that long ago Penrith looked lost. A shadow of the dynasty that had once seemed so untouchable. The reigning premiers — four times over — sat with one win and five losses, their aura cracked, their rhythm gone. Critics whispered about the end of an era, about the toll of relentless success. And in that quiet space between doubt and desperation, something shifted.

No one outside the sheds could really see it then. The slow burn of belief, the quiet grind of a team not ready to let go of who they were. Not yet. Coach Ivan Cleary didn’t panic. He didn’t raise his voice or overhaul the system. He just watched. Waited. Trusted the scars and sweat that had carried his side through more finals football than most players dare to dream of.

Now here they are—seven wins in a row, fifth on the ladder, and climbing with the kind of unshakable intent that makes rival coaches bite their tongues in press conferences. Penrith aren’t just back. They’re dangerous again. But talk to Cleary, and you won’t hear triumph. You’ll hear hunger.

“We haven’t found our cohesion yet,” he says, his tone calm, not complacent. It’s a warning, not a boast. Because when the Panthers talk about improvement, they’re not tossing clichés into the wind. They mean it. And if their version of ‘not there yet’ includes beating Wests Tigers 36-2 with a team missing key combinations, then the rest of the league has every reason to feel uneasy.

There’s something romantic about how it’s all coming together, too. The kids—Casey McLean, Tom Jenkins, Blaize Talagi—names no one was chanting in March, now finding their feet under the glow of pressure. They’ve stitched themselves into the left edge like they belong there. Because they do. It’s the Penrith way—blood them early, let them stumble, then back them to rise. The core — Isaah Yeo, Dylan Edwards, Nathan Cleary — quietly anchors everything, never needing to scream for attention.

And yet, despite all the stats and the streaks, there’s an undercurrent of vulnerability Cleary refuses to hide. “We’re still hunting,” he says. It’s not a line. It’s a mindset. From premiers to predators, the Panthers are circling again — but this time, without the safety net of dominance. Every match matters. Every slip hurts. That edge, thin and sharp, is keeping them alive.

Saturday’s clash with the Titans? A trap game if there ever was one. Gold Coast are 16th, but dangerous in bursts. They just humbled the Warriors and will run at Penrith with nothing to lose. Cleary knows it. That’s why he respects them. The worst kind of opponent is the one with nothing to prove and no fear of being broken.

Meanwhile, the league spins its own web of movement and change. Josh Kerr may find his way back to the Dragons, a club now desperate for presence in the middle after so much attrition. The Sharks are gently letting go of Braden Hamlin-Uele and Siosifa Talakai, signaling the end of an era with a shrug and a handshake. And down in South Sydney, the curtain may have fallen on Josh Schuster's career before it ever truly began—a kid with all the tools, none of the timing.

It’s the rhythm of the NRL—fluid, brutal, emotional. Careers shift like tides. Great teams wobble. Underdogs rise. And somewhere in the chaos, the Panthers, those so-called fading champions, are building again. Quietly. Relentlessly. And if you listen closely, you can hear it—the sound of footsteps behind the top four. The kings are chasing again.

\#PenrithPanthers #NRL2025 #IvanCleary #nospam09 #NRLRivals #DylanEdwards #NathanCleary #GoldCoastTitans #JoshKerr #RugbyLeague
 

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Who do you want to play week one of the finals?

1 v 4 is entirely possible for us. That would likely mean going to Canberra or Melbourne week one. We might also find ourselves playing the Bulldogs.

A Sydney game at Homebush would be best obviously. But in terms of opponents I'd like a shot at the Raiders. They have issues on both edges in defence particularly the right side.

Myriad of options if we come 5th or 6th. I'd take the Roosters in a heartbeat.
 
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Didn’t this post/article also appear last year after the Canberra loss. Fox journos don’t use AI they just rehash previous stuff.
I’m not sure about Fox rehashing, but the Canberra game day thread from last year in the Panther thread reads exactly the same as the one for the first Newcastle game this year.
 

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Who do you want to play week one of the finals?

1 v 4 is entirely possible for us. That would likely mean going to Canberra or Melbourne week one. We might also find ourselves playing the Bulldogs.

A Sydney game at Homebush would be best obviously. But in terms of opponents I'd like a shot at the Raiders. They have issues on both edges in defence particularly the right side.

Myriad of options if we come 5th or 6th. I'd take the Roosters in a heartbeat.

My finals draw preference is less about the opposition, and more about the logistics presented by travel, in terms of preperation and recovery.

Getting into the Top 4 has the benefit of potentially only having to play 3 games. And if we win in week 1, weeks 3 and 4 are both in Sydney. So obviously the Bulldogs are the ideal Week 1 opponent.
I don't see them getting the Minor Premiership though, nor do I see us getting to position #3 for the 2v3 matchup.

If we miss the Top 4, we want to play the Bulldogs week 3. Which means Panthers 5, Bulldogs 2/3. or Panthers 6, Bulldogs 1/4. A 5th spot finish will probably have us play Roosters or Dolphins. And to be honest, they're probably my most feared Week 1 opponents - especially in an elimination game.


My big question is how me manage our top players coming into the finals. In many ways this injury to Yeo is a blessing in disguise, as it forces us to give him a break. I wonder if we have 4th spot locked up leading into Rd 27 whether we rest Edwards, Cleary, Kenny, Martin, To'o etc.
 

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My finals draw preference is less about the opposition, and more about the logistics presented by travel, in terms of preperation and recovery.

Getting into the Top 4 has the benefit of potentially only having to play 3 games. And if we win in week 1, weeks 3 and 4 are both in Sydney. So obviously the Bulldogs are the ideal Week 1 opponent.
I don't see them getting the Minor Premiership though, nor do I see us getting to position #3 for the 2v3 matchup.

If we miss the Top 4, we want to play the Bulldogs week 3. Which means Panthers 5, Bulldogs 2/3. or Panthers 6, Bulldogs 1/4. A 5th spot finish will probably have us play Roosters or Dolphins. And to be honest, they're probably my most feared Week 1 opponents - especially in an elimination game.


My big question is how me manage our top players coming into the finals. In many ways this injury to Yeo is a blessing in disguise, as it forces us to give him a break. I wonder if we have 4th spot locked up leading into Rd 27 whether we rest Edwards, Cleary, Kenny, Martin, To'o etc.

If we have 4th locked up in rd 27 id rest the whole 17.

But I think its going to be tough. The nest 3 games are very hard and even the dragons are playing well..theyve beaten more top 8 teams this year than almost all other teams.
 

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Rebuild 3.0. How the Panthers have become title contenders – again​

By Robert Dillon

August 12, 2025 — 7.33pm


You could have been forgiven for concluding, during the weeks Penrith spent at the bottom of the NRL ladder, that the wheels were falling off, and the juggernaut would grind to a halt.
It was a case of forgetting about adding to their four consecutive premierships. The once-mighty Panthers appeared in danger of going from first to worst.


The engine may have been spluttering, but with the benefit of hindsight, it wasn’t beyond repair. It was just a case of replacing key cogs and recalibrating.
And now, here we are, a month out from the NRL finals, and the machine Ivan Cleary has built and rebuilt is humming along ominously.

After an inexplicable five-game losing streak between rounds two and six, Penrith have won nine games straight to surge into the top four.
They’ve done it without Jarome Luai and James Fisher-Harris – cornerstones in their four grand final triumphs – as well as Sunia Turuva, who featured in two of those victories and was their leading try scorer last year.

Following the departures in previous seasons of Matt Burton, Api Koroisau, Stephen Crichton, Viliame Kikau and Spencer Leniu, it was widely assumed that the loss of “Romey”, “Fish” and “Tito” would prove the tipping point.
Instead, the Panthers have spent the past nine weeks reaffirming the theory that nobody is irreplaceable.


How have they done it?
The first step was a quick fix that was in stark contrast to Penrith’s grow-your-own policy. They went out and signed three strategic recruits – and not necessarily like-for-like replacements.
Isaiah Papali’i, the New Zealand international forward, was enticed from Wests Tigers at the end of last season. And while he is a different style of player from Fisher-Harris, the statistics would suggest he is proving as effective.
Next came teenage utility back Blaize Talagi, whose 20 games in his debut season with Parramatta were mainly spent at centre, wing and fullback, with only two appearances as five-eighth.
Last but by no means least, Penrith threw a train-and-trial lifeline to winger Thomas Jenkins, who was preparing to play for St Mary’s in the Ron Massey Cup after an unhappy season with Newcastle.

Between them, Papali’i, Talagi and Jenkins have played their support-cast roles to perfection, allowing the likes of Nathan Cleary, Dylan Edwards, Brian To’o, Liam Martin and Isaah Yeo to carry on being superstars.

Talagi v Laui​

Blaize Talagi 2025​

Key stats: 16 games, 6 tries, 10 try assists, 92 ave metres, 354 tackles, 6 forced dropouts
The former Parramatta tyro took his time settling into Penrith's backline but is having more impact each game. Was outstanding in last week's win against the Knights, carrying the ball 172 metres and producing two try assists.

Jarome Luai 2024​

Key stats: 24 games, 4 tries, 15 try assists, 102 ave metres, 314 tackles, 17 forced dropouts
An integral member of Penrith's four premiership triumphs, Luai has been hugely influential since joining the Tigers, as both a playmaker and a leader.

Versatile enough to play on an edge or in the middle, Papali’i is averaging more metres and tackles per game than Fisher-Harris did last season.
Overlooked for the first two games of the season, Talagi has since entrenched himself as Cleary’s long-term halves partner. While not as crafty as Luai, his six tries suggest he’s more of a running threat.
Jenkins, meanwhile, is Penrith’s joint leading try scorer with 12 and was rewarded mid-season by being invited to train with the NSW Origin squad as a standby player.

Reflecting on Tuesday on the evolution of his team, coach Cleary admitted Luai, Fisher-Harris and Turuva left “big holes to fill ... not just how they play, but their connection to the team and leadership and the other types of things”.
But he could hardly be happier with how their successors have slotted in.

Jenkins v Turuva​


Thomas Jenkins 2025​

Key stats: 18 games, 12 tries, 19 line breaks, 149 average metres
Initially expecting to play for St Mary's in the Ron Massey Cup, Jenkins has been a revelation on Penrith's left edge. The 24-year-old rates as one of the bargain buys of the season.

Sunia Turuva 2024​

Key stats: 23 games, 17 tries, 21 line breaks, 150 average metres
Turuva was a quiet achiever at Penrith, helping them win the 2023 and 2024 grand finals. He's since become a key man for the rebuilding Tigers.

“I think everyone understands ‘Milky’s’ [Jenkins’] story, so that’s been spoken about,” Cleary said. “Pretty cool story.
“Blaize is a young kid on the rise. He’s got so much in front of him.

“Isaiah is probably one that not a lot of people have noticed and spoken about, but he’s just been going about his work week-in, week-out. He’s an international, a real good player.
“I’ve always thought he’d fit into our team well. I’m not saying he’d like-for-like for ‘Fish’ because he’s not really, but his performances have been excellent for us.”
Martin, another mainstay of Penrith’s four premierships, said it was “incredible” to see the improvement in the off-season recruits.
“You can just see them each week getting more and more confident in their role and in their abilities,” he said.
“It’s great to be a part of. They’re all something special.

“They’ve played such a huge role over the last nine weeks in the success we’ve had. Hopefully, they can just keep building on that and keep getting better and better.”


Papali'i v Fisher-Harris​


Isaiah Papali'i 2025​

Key stats: 17 games, 3 tries, 27.7 ave tackles, 18 offloads, 116 ave metres
Papali'i has proven an astute signing by the Panthers. Capable of playing on an edge or in the middle, his high work rate allows Penrith's stars to shine.

James Fisher-Harris 2024​

Key stats: 23 games, 4 tries, 26.7 ave tackles, 14 offloads, 105 ave metres
Fisher-Harris was Penrith's pack leader during their four premiership triumphs. He has been similarly inspirational this season for the Warriors.

All that being said, it would be simplistic to declare that Penrith’s off-season recruits have alone solved their problems.
Existing squad members have also stepped up and increased their input.
Props Moses Leota and Lindsay Smith, in particular, have helped compensate for the loss of Fisher-Harris to the Warriors.

Both have played every game this season and improved their statistics in the process. They are gaining more metres in attack and making more tackles than last season.
Towering centre Casey McLean has also established himself as a genuine top-grader.
After playing three games last season as an 18-year-old, McLean has featured 17 times in this campaign, scoring 12 tries to sit alongside Jenkins as Penrith’s equal leading scorer.
There should be no doubting his toughness, after weathering a storm known as Stephen Crichton to help outgun Canterbury 8-6 in round 17 – a victory that confirmed the Panthers were back in title contention.


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The final factor in the Panthers’ renaissance has been settling into their new base at CommBank Stadium, a stopgap arrangement while a new stadium is being built at Penrith.
They lost their first three games at CommBank, where they will host Melbourne in a blockbuster grand final rematch on Thursday night, but have since won six straight.
Cleary admitted “it probably took longer than we thought” to start feeling at home in their new surrounds.
“But like anything, you’ve got to adapt,” he said.

“If you’re going to do anything in this competition and be half a decent team, you’ve got to adapt to all different things. And that’s just been one of the things we’ve had to adapt to.”

 

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Fangs

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5-8 finish surely on the cards.

My ladder predictor has it as Penrith v Brisbane area Commbank.
 

age.s

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We need a home final though. Or at least one in Sydney. Brisbane or Auckland in week 1 would be a disaster.
 

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