24 team NRL competition by 2040

[titoelcolombiano]

Brisbane Broncos
Redcliffle Dolphins
North Queensland Cowboys
Brisbane Reds
Gold Coast Titans
Perth Force
Melbourne Storm (Rebels)
Canberra ACT Raiders
Newcastle Knights
Central Coast Bears
illawarra Dragons
Manly Sea Eagles
Sydney Roosters
South Sydney Rabbitohs
Sydney Waratahs
Cronulla Sharks
Parramatta Eels
Penrith Panthers
Auckland Warriors
Auckland Blues
Wellington Hurricanes
Otago Highlanders
Canterbury Bulldogs
Waikato Chiefs

RL is taking over

 

[Brian potter]

Thinking about it now with hindsight the ideal time to have introduced a conference style system would have been when peace had broken out directly after the end of the super league war giving you 2 natural conference divisions with the ARL competition and the super league competition something similar to what happened in the USA with American football and the 2 rival competitions there in the AFC and NFL.

 

[Perth Red]

Thinking about it now with hindsight the ideal time to have introduced a conference style system would have been when peace had broken out directly after the end of the super league war giving you 2 natural conference divisions with the ARL competition and the super league competition something similar to what happened in the USA with American football and the 2 rival competitions there in the AFC and NFL.

Yeh that would have been the ideal. Pick the best twenty clubs and have two confernces of ten. Would have been a natural rivalry come play off time!

Sady the game was broke, clubs were broke and the main reason for the reduction was clubs needed bigger slices of the nrl pie to survive. There wasn’t enough revenue to fund 20 clubs,
Despite the culling we had ten years plus of stories about clubs being on the brink of going broke.

it’s taken us 25 years and putting the grant $5mill over cap for all clubs to finally be financially viable.

 

[Brian potter]

Yeh that would have been the ideal. Pick the best twenty clubs and have two confernces of ten. Would have been a natural rivalry come play off time!

Sady the game was broke, clubs were broke and the main reason for the reduction was clubs needed bigger slices of the nrl pie to survive. There wasn’t enough revenue to fund 20 clubs,
Despite the culling we had ten years plus of stories about clubs being on the brink of going broke.

it’s taken us 25 years and putting the grant $5mill over cap for all clubs to finally be financially viable.

Would have actually been awesome with the top 4 teams in each conference going into a straight 8 team shootout playoff.

imagine the crowds those playoffs would have generated!!!

you could also have had different expansion teams bidding to join different conferences.

 

[Perth Red]

So lets say it had to go to two conf of ten in 1998 which of the 5 clubs misses out for 1998? I think we can agree we needed to bring Storm in.
for me:
Hunter mariners
manly
balmain
Illawarra
Cronulla

 

[greenBV4]

Would have actually been awesome with the top 4 teams in each conference going into a straight 8 team shootout playoff.

imagine the crowds those playoffs would have generated!!!

you could also have had different teams bidding to join different conferences.

fun to imagine with current clubs

1. Cowboys S
2. Broncos S
3. Panthers S
4. Bulldogs S
5. Sharks S
6. Raiders S
7. Storm S (would of been)
8. Warriors S
9. Adelaide S (rams)
10. Perth S (reds)


1. Titans A (chargers)
2. Knights A
3. Sea Eagles A
4. Roosters A
5. Tigers A
6. Eels A
7. Rabbitohs A
8. Dragons A
9. Dolphins A (crushers)
10. South Island (balancing)

teams 21-24 go 2 to each

as far as conferences go that's actually quite balanced

 

[blue bags]

What about super R .
Argentina Puma's

 

[Ideas Man Stephen]

Yo

So lets say it had to go to two conf of ten in 1998 which of the 5 clubs misses out for 1998? I think we can agree we needed to bring Storm in.
for me:
Hunter mariners
manly
balmain
Illawarra
Cronulla

So you keep Norths over Manly? Wests over Balmain? St George over Illawarra.

I think with the benefit of hindsight, all three of those decisions would have been disastrous. Maybe Wests survive, just maybe.

If you think axing the four favourite clubs of hundreds of thousands of Sydney/South Coast RL fans is a good idea, then it’s my opinion that you are putting your own priorities ahead of the sport’s health.

 

[Pneuma]

What about super R .
Argentina Puma's

The super rugby team was the ‘Jaguares’. In true rugby fashion it wax pronounced by commentators as the ‘hagwuarays’ with an emphasis on the H’ W and final A. I watched one game with them playing and apart from the fact the football was awful, listening to the commentary team call their name was excruciating. Rugby. Never change.

 

[Brian potter]

So lets say it had to go to two conf of ten in 1998 which of the 5 clubs misses out for 1998? I think we can agree we needed to bring Storm in.
for me:
Hunter mariners
manly
balmain
Illawarra
Cronulla

And the beauty of those teams that are cut would be able to reapply for either conference.

 

[Perth Red]

Yo

So you keep Norths over Manly? Wests over Balmain? St George over Illawarra.

I think with the benefit of hindsight, all three of those decisions would have been disastrous. Maybe Wests survive, just maybe.

If you think axing the four favourite clubs of hundreds of thousands of Sydney/South Coast RL fans is a good idea, then it’s my opinion that you are putting your own priorities ahead of the sport’s health.

I went on strength of club and financial viability. Again with a very different attitude and some modernising you could have dragons covering everything from kogorah to Illawarra and bears covering everything from ns to gosford.

balmain were broke, Illawarra were broke, sharks were broke, nrl financially supporting bears and dragons to become north and south coastline super clubs might have ended up with a better footprint for the game long term. You could probably argue sharks could have also taken on that role and dragons region become part of roosters territory.

must rememberARL was already prepping to cut some Sydney clubs pre SL. SL presented an answer to ARL where Sydney would have been split into 4-6 super clubs owned and fed by the existing regional nswrl clubs.

 

[Brian potter]

fun to imagine with current clubs

1. Cowboys S
2. Broncos S
3. Panthers S
4. Bulldogs S
5. Sharks S
6. Raiders S
7. Storm S (would of been)
8. Warriors S
9. Adelaide S (rams)
10. Perth S (reds)


1. Titans A (chargers)
2. Knights A
3. Sea Eagles A
4. Roosters A
5. Tigers A
6. Eels A
7. Rabbitohs A
8. Dragons A
9. Dolphins A (crushers)
10. South Island (balancing)

teams 21-24 go 2 to each

as far as conferences go that's actually quite balanced

That is a good balance in geography terms but for me the super league division is the strongest.

 

[blue bags]

Japan Sun wolf's should be included
Same for the Puma's

 

[Brian potter]

Japan Sun wolf's should be included
Same for the Puma's

Maybe not those teams exactly but a team from Japan would be amazing.

id also go with South Africa over Argentina as well.

 

[Brian potter]

Revised conferences.

conference A

BRISBANE BRONCOS

BRISBANE TIGERS

GOLD COAST TITANS(although I’d seriously think about a name change)

NORTH QUEENSLAND COWBOYS

DOLPHINS(moreton bay, south queensland or east coast)

SAMURAIS(based out of Japan)

CENTRAL COAST SEA EAGLES

NORTH SYDNEY BEARS

NEWCASTLE KNIGHTS

SYDNEY ROOSTERS

SOUTH SYDNEY RABBITHOS

ST GEORGE DRAGONS


conference B


PARRAMATTA EELS

PENRITH PANTHERS

WESTERN MAGPIES

CANTERBURY BULLDOGS

ILLAWARRA STEELERS

CANBERRA RAIDERS

MELBOURNE STORM

ADELAIDE RAMS

PERTH SHARKS

AUCKLAND WARRIORS

CHRISTCHURCH/SOUTH ISLAND BULLS

WESTERN CAPE/SOUTH AFRICA PRIDE

each team plays each other once in their conference giving you 11 games then they play all the other teams from the other conference once giving you another 11 games with a grand total of 22 regular season rounds.

playoffs would consist of the top 4 teams from each conference qualifying for a straight 8 team shootout finals series then semifinals culminating in a Super Bowl style grandfinal that is played at a different stadium each year.

 

[bad boy bubby]

I went on strength of club and financial viability. Again with a very different attitude and some modernising you could have dragons covering everything from kogorah to Illawarra and bears covering everything from ns to gosford.

balmain were broke, Illawarra were broke, sharks were broke, nrl financially supporting bears and dragons to become north and south coastline super clubs might have ended up with a better footprint for the game long term. You could probably argue sharks could have also taken on that role and dragons region become part of roosters territory.

must rememberARL was already prepping to cut some Sydney clubs pre SL. SL presented an answer to ARL where Sydney would have been split into 4-6 super clubs owned and fed by the existing regional nswrl clubs.

Again with the lies about the Sharks. The club was actually quite flush with cash at the time. They were 5th or 6th in the criteria stakes. That is very easy to look up, once again you haven’t bothered to investigate before posting.

 

[greenBV4]

each team plays each other once in their conference giving you 11 games then they play all the other teams from the other conference once giving you another 11 games with a grand total of 22 regular season rounds.

this is just a regular play everyone once season, why have conferences

 

[Brian potter]

this is just a regular play everyone once season, why have conferences

Because a single 24 team competition is too big.

 

[greenBV4]

Because a single 24 team competition is too big.

but how is what you suggested any different to just having one competition where everyone plays everyone once?
you end up with the same amount of games, the same draw, the only difference is you have 1 ladder

we currently have 27 rounds, this means if looking at it from a purely number of games point of view, we could theoretically have 26 teams with a play everyone once draw (alternating home/away each year) and not need conferences

 

[Brian potter]

but how is what you suggested any different to just having one competition where everyone plays everyone once?
you end up with the same amount of games, the same draw, the only difference is you have 1 ladder

Gives more teams something to play for i.e. playoff positions.

to be fair it wouldn’t bother me if both teams played each other twice(home&away) in their respective conferences but it offers up the potential scenarios of teams not playing each other for years unless they meet in the playoffs.