2nd Test Aust vs England @ Adelaide Oval

[Tommy Smith]

I ask again, how could you seriously consider leaving Clark out for a spinner and retaining Lee...

Clark's got it all together atm

Surely within the space of this spell he has overtaken Lee as Australia's no.2 pace bowler.

 

[waltzing Meninga]

How did that miss the stumps? Bell is the new darryl

 

[JJ]

So does this confirm that Lee is our 3rd best quick now!

he'd be lucky to be rated that highly to be honest

 

[Tommy Smith]

He's surprising the English batsmen too :lol:

How you doing there Tommy????

Not too good. Waiting for England to lose a wicket not through their own doing. I might be waiting a long time.

A wicket from a poor stroke however might just be around the corner.

Anything under 2582 for 4 dec on this pitch is a joke and we're 50 for 2!

 

[lockyno1]

3rd at best, would not be in my top 5.

 

[aussies1st]

If Clark can get outswing surely Lee should have been getting some.

 

[lockyno1]

Maybe it is becuase Lee is rubbish!

 

[Tommy Smith]

At this rate we might finish the day at about 120 for 5!

The commentators are spot on in that England are not showing any intent. And this just after taking it to Aus in the 2nd innings at Bris.

 

[JJ]

Not too good. Waiting for England to lose a wicket not through their own doing. I might be waiting a long time.

A wicket from a poor stroke however might just be around the corner.

Anything under 2582 for 4 dec on this pitch is a joke and we're 50 for 2!

Pieterson still to come... but then the tail starts :lol:

Still find it hard to believe they play Flintoff at #6... I know he's a talent, but I don't think he right for that spot... Cairns was always keen on it too, but thankfully the kept him at 7 by and large - less pressure, and you can get away with more, as Gilchrist keeps illustrating...

and - I don't see how anyone could seriously rate Lee as Aust's # 2 test quick...

 

[Twizzle]

how good is Warnie bowling

 

[aussies1st]

Warne has a new bunny, Daryl will be happy

 

[lockyno1]

How crap is Lee Twiz? Come on admit it now!

 

[Tommy Smith]

Pieterson still to come... but then the tail starts :lol:

Still find it hard to believe they play Flintoff at #6... I know he's a talent, but I don't think he right for that spot... Cairns was always keen on it too, but thankfully the kept him at 7 by and large - less pressure, and you can get away with more, as Gilchrist keeps illustrating...

and - I don't see how anyone could seriously rate Lee as Aust's # 2 test quick...

110% agree. I've always felt the same. It's quite ironic really that your best player and best strength - your star all-rounder (Flintoff, Cairns) - can also turn out to be your worst enemy. By that i mean if you play him at 7 then you still only have 4 bowlers but if you play him at 6 then your batting line-up looks alittle thin.

Oh if only England had a Kumar Sangakkara. *drools*

 

[Twizzle]

How crap is Lee Twiz? Come on admit it now!

Bowling O M R W Econ
B Lee 6 1 16 0 2.66
GD McGrath 8 1 20 0 2.50

he's about the same as McGrath atm

 

[aussies1st]

Maybe it is becuase Lee is rubbish!

Well the rubbish man almost got a run out :sarcasm:

 

[JJ]

110% agree. I've always felt the same. It's quite ironic really that your best player and best strength - your star all-rounder (Flintoff, Cairns) - can also turn out to be your worst enemy. By that i mean if you play him at 7 then you still only have 4 bowlers but if you play him at 6 then your batting line-up looks alittle thin.

Oh if only England had a Kumar Sangakkara. *drools*

maybe you can get Andy Flower to qualify?

Pieterson looks like he can bowl a bit, I know it's not the same, but if you can't get by with 4 specialists and a part-timer, do you really need 5? I think Flintoff could be devastating at #7

 

[JJ]

Well the rubbish man almost got a run out :sarcasm:

good nickname, Lee can be the "rubbish man" and Clark the "mailman"

 

[fat_mike]

why are the poms playing it like its the last session of the match and they are trying to hold on for a draw.

wheres the attacking nature of the second test last year.

freaking disappointing to be honest

 

[Twizzle]

2 for 58 at lunch

pretty damn slow batting

 

[Tommy Smith]

maybe you can get Andy Flower to qualify?

Pieterson looks like he can bowl a bit, I know it's not the same, but if you can't get by with 4 specialists and a part-timer, do you really need 5? I think Flintoff could be devastating at #7

I agree. That would also allow England to play Read and Panesar as we wouldnt need mroe batting.

England should ask this: Is James Anderson so important to England that they are willing to sacrifice better batting, better keeping and better spin-bowling? because that's what this line-up would have offered:

Strauss
Cook
Bell
Pietersen
Collingwood
Joyce
Flintoff
Read
Hoggard
Harmison
Panesar

That to me is a far stronger team. Even ebtter if you were to hopefully add a Trescothick or Vaughan in the batting and Jones in the bowling in the future.