2nd Test: New Zealand v England @ Wellington Feb 24-28, 2023

[JJ]

I think we've fallen into the trap of playing to England's tempo, although we've ended up stuck in no man's land. It's gotta be tough mentally to see them score 435 in 3 and a half sessions and then realise it's going to take you 5 sessions of quality batting at a standard 3rpo to match them. We've wanted to cut some corners and are paying the price.

Lol at two top 5 wickets reverse sweeping Leach. A standard shot these days but it's one you really don't need to play in these circumstances, you're increasing the risk of Leach dramatically by choosing to do so.

yep, and that's on the leadership - I have serious problems with Larsen and Stead... Southee as captain, I am not sure about

But pretty gutless overall

 

[JJ]

Southee turning the clock back to his debut

 

[edabomb]

How ridiculous do Latham and Nicholls look now. Out reverse sweeping to Leach, while Southee is just pumping him with proper shots lol.

 

[_snafu_]

Entertaining innings from Southee

 

[JJ]

We’re playing beautifully

 

[JJ]

Well, some signs of fight…

 

[JJ]

We’re still f**ked and I’m bemused by our test cricket…. But we had the better of the day, so that’s something

 

[JJ]

Surely Henry Nicholls now needs to go somewhere else to find some runs

 

[TheParraboy]

Old man Anderson drops Blundell, could be costly

Kiwis 5/351 - lead 125

 

[King-Gutho94]

Pitch looks like it's getting better I reckon NZ would want close to 300 to set England tomorrow.

 

[TheParraboy]

103* to the great Kane

5/409
Kiwis lead 183

 

[Sphagnum]

Big fight back here. Another indictment for enforcing the follow on in modern day test cricket.

 

[JJ]

Bazball can't trump good test cricket - sadly we only found our feet late... whatever we set they'll chase on a good deck, so no need to worry about declaring, if we get deep enough just see what pressure does - the endless positivity is cracking a bit in the field...

McCullum and Stokes were always going to enforce the follow on, and will probably still win - but the question is will a draw or a loss (incredibly unlikely) force some learning, or will they just plough on?

 

[JJ]

Big fight back here. Another indictment for enforcing the follow on in modern day test cricket.

horses for courses though, when your two leading bowlers are middle aged, and your all-rounder seems unable to bowl much, maybe you shouldn't assume that a (supposedly) good test lineup will capitulate again... about time we fought back, and I think signs for the Ashes that Straya just needs to focus on good test cricket, rather getting sucked into battles for run rate bragging points

 

[TheParraboy]

41 overs left in the last session today

NZ 5/423 - lead 197

Hopefully kiwis bat all through this last session , and a bit in the morning if they can

Poms you would think will try and run down whatever is presented, after all they want to play attacking cricket

 

[JJ]

41 overs left in the last session today

NZ 5/423 - lead 197

Hopefully kiwis bat all through this last session , and a bit in the morning if they can

Poms you would think will try and run down whatever is presented, after all they want to play attacking cricket

yup, no need to set a target - they'll chase no matter what

 

[edabomb]

Bazball can't trump good test cricket - sadly we only found our feet late... whatever we set they'll chase on a good deck, so no need to worry about declaring, if we get deep enough just see what pressure does - the endless positivity is cracking a bit in the field...

McCullum and Stokes were always going to enforce the follow on, and will probably still win - but the question is will a draw or a loss (incredibly unlikely) force some learning, or will they just plough on?

They've still dictated 6.5 out of 7.5 days in the series so far. I don't see anything here to force a rethink - but it should raise some alarm bells about how quality teams can stand up to bazball and play their own game with success. England's saving grace is there aren't many good test teams around at the moment, and they've already had success against the best in India.

 

[JJ]

They still dictated 6.5 out of 7.5 days in the series so far. I don't see anything here to force a rethink - but it should raise some alarm bells about how quality teams can stand up to bazball and play their own game with success. England's saving grace is there aren't many good test teams around at the moment, and they've already had success against the best in India.

Just the declaration, lots of shit cricket from us

think we’ve had better of today and yesterday tbf

 

[TheParraboy]

Looks like Anderson gone for the test ??

Been off the field for over half an hour

 

[TheParraboy]

Anderson back on